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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#821 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 12 December 2018 - 08:06 AM

That would make for one weird var mode.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 14 December 2018 - 06:28 AM

Optimus Prime Battle Base trailer found at Walmart in the US:
http://www.tfw2005.c.../#post-16398325
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Ultimate Class wave 2 Bumblebee found in Singapore:
http://www.tfw2005.c...6#post-16398139
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"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 18 December 2018 - 04:09 AM

More stock photos:

Scout Class wave 3 Autobot Ratchet (code name "Aces")
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Scout Class wave 3 Shadow Striker (code name "Rockhounds")
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Edited by Nevermore, 18 December 2018 - 04:09 AM.

"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
- Volker Pispers, German comedian

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 05:02 AM

I am 100% behind letting kids toys be for kids and their being loads of product not aimed at me... Super simple is fine, but every time I see these "scouts" it is just SO damn hard to imagine anyone, kid or adult, wanting TF toys that half-change into robot-jumbled modes that look like nothing... they are like the most inherently disappointing TF toys I can imagine...

-ZacWilliam, these are just one of those things I think are horribly misconceived on every level, and I mean I'm happy if anything sells, but I have to wonder why they thought this would other than parents/kids not understanding that they don't fully change... *shakes old man stick at cloud.*

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 18 December 2018 - 06:36 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 06:33 AM

I was pretty stoked when I first saw that Ratchet. I forgot about the half transform thing.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 06:41 AM

I miss Fast Action Battlers.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 07:14 AM

If the arms/legs of these made something that looked just a little more vehicle, I could see getting that Shadow Striker. Since she almost reminds me of those car things that have the giant character bust sticking out the top of the roof as the driver.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 09:52 AM

If the arms/legs of these made something that looked just a little more vehicle, I could see getting that Shadow Striker. Since she almost reminds me of those car things that have the giant character bust sticking out the top of the roof as the driver.


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#829 Chip

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:12 AM

Cancel Generations. Put the real thought into the kid line. It is the only way forward. And jeez, it's all G1 homages anyway.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:20 AM

I mean... they're for different age groups. I imagine Cyberverse would be the same regardless.

#831 Chip

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 10:48 AM

I just wish there were more focus on the kid stuff, and I would gladly take that at the expense of collector toys. Maybe I'm looking at this through rose tinted glasses, but mini-vehicles and Beast Wars basics and Throttlebots and Spychangers were better than this.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:04 AM

These really aren't that far removed from the Throttlebots, frankly.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:15 AM

Except Throttlebots recognizably transformed from one actual thing to another.  Ultimately, these'll be a footnote anyway.


Edited by Spark, 18 December 2018 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:33 AM

Except it's just the concept inverted.

 

Where these go from robots to half-baked car things made of robot parts, the Throttlebots went from cars to half-baked robot things made of car parts.


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 11:37 AM

Except that doesn't work.  People can fill in the blanks on a fictional robot way before they can with a vehicle that's not even half passable as a vehicle and clearly draws on some complete vehicle mode elsewhere.  It's not at all 1:1.


Edited by Spark, 18 December 2018 - 11:38 AM.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 12:52 PM

I just wish there were more focus on the kid stuff, and I would gladly take that at the expense of collector toys. Maybe I'm looking at this through rose tinted glasses, but mini-vehicles and Beast Wars basics and Throttlebots and Spychangers were better than this.

The WTF-ness of the Scouts doesn't change the fact that the rest of the line exists.

 

The fact that the Scouts don't say "figure does not convert" and in some cases (Grimlock) have misleading art or photography is certainly something that should be criticized, though. A case could be made that Hasbro is aiming them directly at "parents/kids not understanding that they don't fully change", and that's pretty bad if they are.



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:06 PM

I definitely agree that the packaging doesn't do a good job of conveying that these don't have full vehicle modes, but...really? Hasbro is actively trying to trick people into buying them by hiding it? If Hasbro really believed nobody would want to buy Transformers that don't fully transform, why would they make them at all? Why not make toys that do transform into complete vehicle modes, like they do at every other price point and in every other line and have done at this size many times in the past?

 

This just seems like a conspiracy for the sake of conspiracy. The Scouts are a weird idea and most adult fans don't like them. Also, they have packaging that doesn't do a good job. Those can be two unrelated things.

 

(Remember how the Power Battlers for AOE looked almost exactly like Deluxes on the pegs? Sometimes packaging designers do a bad job.)



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:28 PM

I think this is just a case of a bad idea that either had very little oversight to say "no" or that they're just experimenting and it happens to be a bad idea.  Like Dinosparkers for AoE.  No grand conspiracy, just... a bad idea.  The box render/photography being a little surreptitious is more than likely a case of a panicked packaging designer trying to figure out a way to get approval from marketing, who just want something that looks enticing on the box.

 

Hasbro does not move as one unified entity that plots in the shadows, it's a lot of people trying to please a lot of other people and they're all trying to catch the attention of anyone in the aisles to make sure they all get paychecks.


Edited by Spark, 18 December 2018 - 01:30 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 02:15 PM

That's basically what I meant too. I really don't see how "after the toys are designed, the person/people designing the packaging are deceptive" is either a "conspiracy" or implausible.



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 03:31 PM

Or maybe, just hear me out here, maybe a pair of legs dangling down from what's already a complete altmode takes up a lot of extra space on the package and is the obvious victim of not-particularly-evil "cut it down to the part that actually fits."

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