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@  Maximus Ambus : (25 September 2020 - 11:58 PM)

Aw I scratched the hood of my 35th anniversary Bluestreak. Fortunately he's in robot mode a lot.

@  Sabrblade : (25 September 2020 - 07:24 PM)

No decoration could improve the wall more than Knockout himself

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 September 2020 - 05:04 PM)

The wall could use some decorating, though. Maybe a nice shelf or a portrait.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 September 2020 - 04:32 PM)

I'm laughing so hard XDDD

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 September 2020 - 02:31 PM)

He doesn't even mind this time. You know what? It's comfortable here.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 September 2020 - 02:23 PM)

AND THEN KNOCKOUT WAS IN THE WALL AGAIN XDDD

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2020 - 01:11 PM)

is an annoying stage in Super Mario World.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 September 2020 - 02:15 PM)

Gnarly.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 September 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Beast Era, a blonde rat called Sunsqueaker.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 September 2020 - 01:00 PM)

And then Knockout was in the wall again.

@  Sabrblade : (24 September 2020 - 12:53 PM)

Knockout: "Ooh, sorry, Lord Megatron. The correct word was... 'Decepticon'."

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 September 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Knockout: *while doing a crossword puzzle* Lord Megatron, whats a ten letter word for disappointment? | Megatron: ...... Starscream.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 September 2020 - 01:20 PM)

@Bass X0 Shockwave did it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 11:56 AM)

At least it's not Suntwerker.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 September 2020 - 11:19 AM)

I read that name as "suntweaker" the first time, and was terrified for a moment...

@  Bass X0 : (23 September 2020 - 03:41 AM)

Prowl did nothing wrong.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 September 2020 - 01:50 AM)

Smashy, Stabby, Selfy, and Shieldy.

@  Xero Prime : (22 September 2020 - 08:52 PM)

RunFast, MuckyTrail, TrackBreaker and Sunstreaker

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 September 2020 - 06:16 AM)

Runamuck, Fasttrack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker.

@  Nevermore : (22 September 2020 - 06:13 AM)

Cardboard and plastic.

@  Paladin : (22 September 2020 - 05:52 AM)

what's IN Wave 3, anyway?

@  Telly : (21 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

i dont think theyre due for release until november. at least thats when target says ill get trailbreaker and sunstreaker. thought the wiki says theyre out in singapore

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2020 - 06:01 PM)

Has wave 3 actually reached anywhere yet?

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 September 2020 - 04:40 PM)

A few more Bearimy's for Earthrise wave 3 to reach the UK

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 05:07 PM)

Cheers pal.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2020 - 04:42 PM)

Welcome aboard!

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 04:38 PM)

Hey, new to the boards

@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.


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#1 Tm_Silverclaw

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Posted 12 February 2018 - 11:29 PM

Hawaii has introduced a bill to make Loot boxes illegal.

 


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:33 AM

An excellent idea!
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:47 AM

This... could really ruin the whole microtransaction thing. FINALLY. Cut off the companies excuse to moneytize incomplete games.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:25 AM

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:05 AM

Very happy to hear this, hopefully the bills will be passed and the other states will also do similar legislation.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:15 AM

Im not on WiFi so I cant watch the video...so by loot boxes is this this geek subscription services where you get stuff in the mail, or is it referring to some kind of IAP I must not be aware of.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:23 AM

Im not on WiFi so I cant watch the video...so by loot boxes is this this geek subscription services where you get stuff in the mail, or is it referring to some kind of IAP I must not be aware of.

 

I believe it's those types of in-game transactions where you pay for the chance to possibly win something.  By something I mean in-game currency, weapons, or other benefits.

 

I think this is all coming about (mainly) due to the Star Wars EA game.


I didn't watch the video though.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 10:36 AM

Bingo Powered Convoy.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:42 AM

Lots of games use a similar style of micro-transaction, most games like overwatch and TF use some kind of loot box somehow to insentivize players to keep playing. EA, of course, pushed it way too far and someone had to step in to stop it.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:43 AM

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This sounds like the worst trucking company ever.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 12:27 PM

Lots of games use a similar style of micro-transaction, most games like overwatch and TF use some kind of loot box somehow to insentivize players to keep playing. EA, of course, pushed it way too far and someone had to step in to stop it.

 

I am so hoping this puts a huge dent into Overwatch.  That mediocre, overrated lobby shooter really needs to be knocked off it's pedestal.  I do blame it partly for the scourge of loot boxes that has started.  While they existed before its debut, just look at how common they are in a lot of MMO's, especially Korean ones, Overwatch really popularized them in a mainstream, non-niche game.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:05 PM

DCUO has really been pushing these things lately as "time capsules" and it's kinda bull.

Fortunately I have some stored up "free" cash with my yearly sub so I don't have to spend any real additional money if I'm curious about the contents.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:13 PM

Finally.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:39 PM

 

Lots of games use a similar style of micro-transaction, most games like overwatch and TF use some kind of loot box somehow to insentivize players to keep playing. EA, of course, pushed it way too far and someone had to step in to stop it.

 

I am so hoping this puts a huge dent into Overwatch.  That mediocre, overrated lobby shooter really needs to be knocked off it's pedestal.  I do blame it partly for the scourge of loot boxes that has started.  While they existed before its debut, just look at how common they are in a lot of MMO's, especially Korean ones, Overwatch really popularized them in a mainstream, non-niche game.

 

Hate on Overwatch if you want, but it's system allows earning the boxes without extra payment and everything in them is cosmetic only. Other companies took it too far (EA) and made it so gameplay enhancing items and progression could be gained with these paid boxes unfairly shifting the game in favor of those with money to burn.


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:46 PM

 

 

Lots of games use a similar style of micro-transaction, most games like overwatch and TF use some kind of loot box somehow to insentivize players to keep playing. EA, of course, pushed it way too far and someone had to step in to stop it.

 

I am so hoping this puts a huge dent into Overwatch.  That mediocre, overrated lobby shooter really needs to be knocked off it's pedestal.  I do blame it partly for the scourge of loot boxes that has started.  While they existed before its debut, just look at how common they are in a lot of MMO's, especially Korean ones, Overwatch really popularized them in a mainstream, non-niche game.

 

Hate on Overwatch if you want, but it's system allows earning the boxes without extra payment and everything in them is cosmetic only. Other companies took it too far (EA) and made it so gameplay enhancing items and progression could be gained with these paid boxes unfairly shifting the game in favor of those with money to burn.

 

 

Doesn't matter if it is cosmetic or not, it is still gambling.  A Lawmaker is not going to care if this gives a power boost or not, as you are still having underage people engage in a potentially addictive practice.



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 02:13 PM

The problem is microtransactions. If it's just unlocking stuff while playing the game, then hey, that's how every video game works. You play to get new loot to play more. Letting people buy their way to victory just makes it impossible for anyone else to compete without also spending money. It's a terrible practice.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:16 PM

And that's the difference between EA and other microtransactions.  It's not anything new in video games it's EA who decided to break the Golden Goose.  As long as everything was just cosmetics it was fine.  Hell, TF2's loot boxes that contain different weapons don't radically change the game because much because of how much balancing Valve does.  But EA's the ones who put Darth Vader in a lootbox so they shat the pool for everyone.

 

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 05:24 PM

I am so hoping this puts a huge dent into Overwatch.  That mediocre, overrated lobby shooter really needs to be knocked off it's pedestal.  I do blame it partly for the scourge of loot boxes that has started.  While they existed before its debut, just look at how common they are in a lot of MMO's, especially Korean ones, Overwatch really popularized them in a mainstream, non-niche game.

 

I think you could make a case for "overrated", I know a lot of people who hate Overwatch just because too many other people like it. I don't really understand that mentality, but go for it. If it's mediocre I must have terrible taste because I've played it almost every day since launch over a year ago and it's given me more consistent and ongoing fun than basically any video game I've played in the last thirty years. 

 

Picking Overwatch as the poster child for Loot Boxes Must Be Destroyed is just silly, because as noted above the contents are only cosmetic and have no bearing on gameplay so it's really tangential to the shitstorm that kicked off this whole drama I think. Also, you don't ever have to buy a loot box in Overwatch, you'll generally get at least three or four free boxes just for playing for a week.

 

If spending money on a box which contains an unknown item from a known set of possible items is that big a problem, then TRU is in worse trouble than we realised because loot boxes are hardly the only manifestation of that model that is popular today. 

 

But anyway, that's getting off track. I'm sure we'll see other areas trying to put this kind of legislation in place soon, but I wonder how it can be enforced? Will game publishers or console makers just block people from playing the games in question if they reside in a certain place? Do you just lose your PSN subscription because access to the store is too risky? Obviously the loot boxes aren't just going to be universally shut down across every game on Earth with microntransactions or etc (unless/until they're more widely banned obviously). It's very interesting. Hawaii's path should be fascinating to watch. 


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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:59 PM

This will not hold up. Its no more gambling than buying any trading, gaming, or sports cards.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 12:17 AM

The title and original post are misleading.  This is about proposed laws to require package labeling or restrict sales to minors.  Nothing about actually making them illegal.


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