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@  Benbot : (26 June 2019 - 03:27 PM)

new episodes are up?

@  Boomhauer : (26 June 2019 - 01:30 PM)

The voice acting bothers me less than the weird-as-hell timing on the action. Entire show feels like its paced like a internet cartoon.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.


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#101 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 02:12 AM

I think original Venom Brock got popular when he was being gleeful and silly and would unexpectedly do cute stuff like rescue a baby from drowning or say something like does the car have a siren. After he was turned into a Lethal Protector, he was made serious/normal hero and lost the silly childishness.

I still have the mid credits scene, not for the character but for the choice. It's not like he's a wooden actor but, c'mon, someone new and fresh would have been better.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 07:17 AM

And Sony are trying to slightly muddy the waters by throwing out vague 'yeah this is in the same Marvel universe as Spiderman' and 'we'd love to have Tom Holland in our Venom sequel'.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 03:05 PM

They've been doing that for months now.
With Marvel standing behind them gesturing wildly while shaking their head NO.

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Posted 08 October 2018 - 05:00 PM

Then this weekend's box office take came in and Marvel's reassessing their options.


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:59 PM

Then this weekend's box office take came in and Marvel's reassessing their options.

Domestic:  $80,255,756    39.1%Foreign:  $125,200,000    60.9% = Worldwide:  $205,455,756

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, nice numbers. I still want to see it but haven't had time. 

 

Stupid question: I never really read Venom comics except for one where Juggernaut trashes him with a telephone pole. And the Maximum Carnage video game cut scenes. Does he ACTUALLY eat people? Or brains? I always thought that was just a grossout threat, but the movie ads sure make it look like he actually eats them. 



#106 Fero McPigletron

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:10 PM

Yeah, that's the thing for me too. When he first came out, written by David Micheliniespelling, I think he just wanted to eat Peter's brains as a 'grossout threat' (also his spleen). Up until Lethal Protector, I don't think he really ate brains.

Then I find out in a succeeding mini that... he did? And it was a plot point somehow?

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 01:53 PM

It would have been awesome if the symbiote had made Peter eat brains too, except he was still nice guy Peter. He'd, like, sit down at the table and tuck a napkin into his collar and use a knife and fork while M.J. looked at him in horror.



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 05:34 PM

Yeah - something about the symbiote needing a chemical found in the brain that's also found in chocolate and certain sea creatures, which feeds into the whole lobster gag.

 

I think the Mac Gargan Venom was just into eating people in general, though.

 

I've always found it weird as well.  Does the symbiote just absorb the body/head/brain, or does it enter the host's digestive system via the symbiote's mouth?



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Posted 09 October 2018 - 06:17 PM

The "eating brains" thing started out as just a gruesome threat. Then the writer of one of his mini series (The Hunger) thought, "Wouldn't it be neat if we followed through with that?" And spoiler, no it was not. And for a little while, the symbiote had to eat brains and/or chocolate.

 

Then the solo minis ended and Venom became a Spidey villain again around the time Howard Mackie was ruining the books. And biting/eating people was just part of his repertoire now; he took a bite out of Sandman that was apparently so big, Sandman had trouble keeping his form cohesive for months afterward. Where the symbiote put all that sand it ate,I have no idea.

 

Then there was a brief interlude where the symbiote ate cancer. Yeah, Eddie Brock was revealed to have been diagnosed with cancer right before he attempted suicide, and that's what drew the symbiote to him, and the symbiote kept him alive by feeding on the cancer. This was during Paul Jenkins' "time to show the public I'm all out of ideas" period.

 

Then the symbiote went to Gargan, by way of Millar, Bendis, and Warren Ellis. And at that point I'm sure it was just, "Oh, sure, he eats people. He's a giant monster, why wouldn't he?"


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 11:07 PM

Btw, could someone explain Anti-Venom to me? It's NOT the original Venom symbiote, since that one went to Flash, but it's a reverse of Venom cuz Mister Negative touched it... So is it sentient? A clone copy of the original? Or is it all Eddie? Or a new Symbiote spawn from the original Venom?

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 02:45 PM

It's what was left of the symbiotes in Eddie that could kill other symbiotes because.....physics.

 

Ironbite-or something.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 06:04 PM

After seeing Venom, gonna say not half bad.  Yeah the script is definitely from 2005 but it kinda works in this day and age.  Not sure what was up with the kamikaze drones but hey, good stuff.

 

Ironbite-final fight could've benefited from having the Symboites different colors other then black and gray.


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 07:00 AM

Yeah, it was such a waste with the bomb drones.

Actually, there's two symbiotes unaccounted for. Supposedly they died but... yeah, right? I actually don't know the other Venom spawn other than Carnage but there were five or six that were unnamed during Lethal Protector and the toys named them.

Scream, Riot, Lash... Phage? I actually don't know their backgrounds. Carnage had... Toxin?

Who could those other two symbiotes be?

Also, was Riot in the comics black and white too?

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Posted 14 October 2018 - 06:56 PM

Ok, finally saw it. Tom Hardy (Eddie) and Tom Hardy (Venom) are the entertainingly ludicrous core of a otherwise really dumb movie. Hardy really does work as that character(s).

Otherwise? 3ow this is a dull early 2000s style 'superhero' film. The plot felt incredibly generic.

Would i like to see this Venom butt heads with the Tom Holland Spidey? Yes, yes i would! But not at the expense of Sony figuring they've got the basis for a successful Spideyverse and taking Spidey back from the MCU.

I may buy this when it comes out on Bluray for the Hardy buddy comedy alone.

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 01:27 AM

I figure some folks would find it interesting. At the Venom screening I went to, we had a photobooth at alters you to half Venom, a cannisters of symbiote and a motorbike. Really? The motorbike?



I should have frowned at my photo.

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Posted 15 October 2018 - 05:00 AM

That neat.

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 12:05 PM

Venom has now outperformed Justice League.

 

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:18 PM

I hate the fact that we made this a hit.

 

Ironbite-but at the same time...love it.


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 02:19 PM

I'm highly amused that a film featuring some of the most iconic heroes ever...got beat by 90s reject movie with a knock off Spider-Man :p



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Posted 12 November 2018 - 03:26 PM

Don't worry, Aquaman and Shazam will surely save them.

 

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Why do I hear laughter in the distance?


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Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.



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