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@  ThunderWear : (27 January 2020 - 08:56 PM)

Think of it positively, maybe your face just has optional no-slip surfaces

@  Maximus Ambus : (27 January 2020 - 05:38 PM)

I have dyspraxia so use a electric trimmer, it's never smooth. NEVER!

@  Benbot : (27 January 2020 - 12:52 PM)

don't you hate it when you shave but miss a whisker and it bugs you all day long and you try to yank it out but you can't because it's too short to get a hold of but your hand keeps finding it whenever you touch your face?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE


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Making a better adaptation of MTMTE/Lost Light.

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#1 Scaramouche

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:28 PM

I loved MTMTE when it began but in its current form Lost Light, it's frankly sucked. 

 

If you were given the opportunity to do make an animated adaptation of it but were allowed to change what things you disliked or could improve on the story what would you do?

 

Here's what i'd do. 

 

Keep Season 1 mostly intact though maybe have Nautica on board in Season 1. 

The real question is do you keep Megatron in the 2nd season or remove him entirely changing the entire story? I'd probably keep him. 

Remove Dark Cybertron but still have the Lost Light go back to Cybertron because they're running out of supplies and after the Circle of Light thing, some bots want off Rodimus's wild ride. 

Initially stays the same until after issue 40. 

Getaway and Atomizer purposely trick the Protectobots to get off the ship forced to go to a coference to represent the lost light on a colony world for a month. (so no 6 month time skip between 49 & 50's issue) 47 is when they leave. 

Remove the personality ticks and Swervearth, now the Necroworld is a 2 parter, it combines the deal with Nautica's past, Velocity's introduction, replace Thunderclash joining the crew with Countdown (hence you can have him join the mutiny without questioning Thunderclash's moral fiberness as much) and introduce Road Rage so she can be a female mutineer and Crosscut's love interest. The Necroworld second parter has a funeral for Trailbreaker where this sows the seeds for a mutiny when Megatron tries to speak and certain bots start to question the leadership of the LL hierarchy. Also a poker night with Swerve, Bluestreak and future mutineers, then the bullet from Swervearth Swerve had lodged in him comes into play but then that happens into what issue 47 was. almost them getting on track until Getaway/Cyclonus/Tailgate drama ruins that progress. 

Keep the Scavangers issue in tact after the Necroworld arc. 

Issue/episode 48 doesn't gloss over everything that happened in 47 like it did in the comic. Cyclonus is injured badly but doesn't recover as easily, is back for 50. 

The holiday issue from 2015 is adapted as the last episode before episode 50. 

50 mostly plays out as it does. 

51 brings in Overlord at the halfway point of the episode with Ratchet and Drift's return ending the episode.

52 is where Drift has his reunion with everyone. Megatron and Drift have a moment which was sorely lacking from the original arc. Most of the Overlord and Tarn shenanigans happen in this one. Episode ends when Skids reveals to Brainstorm what happened to Quark making Brainstorm pissed at him. 

53 the DJD finally just straight up go on the attack, forcing the RodSquad to split up into small teams to take on all their enemies with wit, firepower and no bullshit superpower up modes. Megatron learns of the fools energon thing much sooner from Ratchet, someone gives Megatron the lesson he really needed about true pacifism that it's fine to defend you and your loved ones. 

54 is where the meat of the action occur. Skids is killed by one of the DJD members, he still does the scum thing as his final words. Tarn kills Kaon like he did in the comic for letting the pet escape. Deathsaurus and Nickel leave in disgust of what Tarn did to Kaon. The other DJD are defeatedone by one by the Squad. Overlord is forced to leave as the request of his superiors at the Galactic Council and when Tarn is all alone now, Ravage attacks only to be torn in half as the cliffhanger pissing Megatron off. 

55 Megatron vs Tarn one on one. We get more of an insight of what created Tarn. Tarn in this version is not one bot but two. he's both Roller and Glitch. Roller Tarn is the Tarn Skids knew and Glitch Tarn is the current Tarn. Megatron finally kills Tarn but in a more satisfying manner. Skids is now dead, Nautica mourns his loss, Brainstorm is depressed Skids died with him being angry at him. The Pet is found and the Dominus Ambus thing is revealed, same thing happens in the comic. They all try to keep is quiet that Dominus became the pet from Magnus. season ends with Ravage's death & Megatron flipping the table.

 

Lost Light 1/S3 begins with Anode and Lug appearing to get rescued....but not. They're killed off, thus improving the series. 

The Necrobot bringing certain bots back thing happens but it's all new characters outside of Kaput and Fangry different from the book. No Roller, No Terminus. Megatron suffers a spark attack, his insides all hugged from the fight from Tarn and the stress of Ravage's death sets him over the edge, during the episode where introduced to the new characters adjusting to learning they've survived the war and it's (mostly) peace time. Episode ends with Megatron stabilized but in a coma. 

Issue 2 all the bullshit with Tailgate and him beating up Fangry and all that crap. Nautica grieves over both Skids and Ravage's deaths. It's a self-reflection episode. Everybody realizes Megatron did good here and doesn't bad mouth him when he's gone. Rodimus finally decides the next course of action, beat Getaway to the punch and take back their ship. 

Issue 3, basically issue 7. They don't build a ship out of a carcass, they make it out of the Necrobots place. Tailgate stays behind to deal with his power but of course Fangry hugs him over as it happened in comic, Tailgate never comes back ever. 

Issue 4 focuses on Megatron in his coma fever dream, all the Functionist arc stuff happens in here. Anode only exists in his dream, stuff like that. 

Issue 5 what LL 10 is about, the Protectobots come back and Getaway's in charge. Nothing really changes much. 

Issue 6, LL 11 essentially minus the bad political references. Though we get more focus through the mutineers, like we see what they think but of course Froid and Sunder begin to mess with people's minds. ends with the Riptide cliffhanger.

 

Issue/Episode 7 & 8 intermission from the mutineers, covers what happened in LL 8 & 9 with Nautica almost selling her friendship with Velocity. Swerve and either Drift or Rung take Anode and Lug's spots coming with Nautica & Velocity. No stealing but we learn Swerve's metallurgist past, Wipe-Out is brought in as Swerve's old friend. Wipe-Out has Anode's stealing problem. Mengle gets a re-name because naming a robot after a Nazi is stupid. Don't have Nautica lose any caring of Skids (and Ravage) at all in the end, she learns that you need to eventually move on and stop sulking. Mengle's workship is attacked by the Galactic Council and hence they loose Skids's brain module but can't just go back. Scorponok reveal is still intact. They also have plans to use Skids brain to create a new robot (so Skids come back but all wrong and now their enemy...design would be based on either the RID2001 version or ROTF version), also features Rodimus yelling at Nautica and co. for hugging the entire mission up and losing Skids. 

episode 9, what LL 12 is except, Rook gets some actual focus before dying. One of the mutineers maybe Bluestreak learning what Getaway is up to and joining First Aid, The Protectobots, Riptide and Thunderclash. Mirage still dies. Defensor actually beats the crap out of Getaway just inches from death but is still defeated by Star Saber. Proper confirmation that Getaway was always a mole from Tyrest, Atomizer is still alive but begins self doubting real hard in a what have I done but tries to keep appearances up.Don't have them find Cyberutopia just yet, save it for a later episode. 

episode 10 -  no Anode's head in ass since she will no longer exist.

 

 

thoughts?


Edited by Scaramouche, 19 January 2018 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:42 AM

just adapt the good parts

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 06:26 AM

I'll be honest, the comics went downhill starting with season 2. There were some good comics in there, but then we have Swerve planet, personality ticks & some other oddball shenanigans that really feel out of place.

I like elements of LL, but I wish it was more like season 1.
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 06:32 AM

It's easy. Get a head writer whose head isn't up their own orifice

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:07 AM

All of the music is replaced with Top 30 Pop Hits instead of indie musiqué.



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:08 AM

The political references are more subtle.



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:25 AM

It's very similar to the comic, but instead of Rung, it has lasting consequences for the writer's favorite characters.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:31 PM

Rook should be inserted into every single scene, always in the background, poking his head over someone's shoulder.



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:35 PM

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 01:30 PM

Sometimes things you like can just end up sucking.

 

It's a lot healthier to accept that than pretending it could magically be better if you tweak it in ways that can never happen.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:07 AM

Rook should be inserted into every single scene, always in the background, poking his head over someone's shoulder.

One: Rook needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.

 

Two: whenever Rook's not on-panel, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Rook?"



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:39 AM

Sometimes things you like can just end up sucking.

 

It's a lot healthier to accept that than pretending it could magically be better if you tweak it in ways that can never happen.

 

You never hate anything as much as something you used to love.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:36 PM

Whenever Rook isn't on screen everyone should be asking, "Where's Rook?"



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:10 PM

Alternate universe where MTMTE never happens and instead we get a Hearts of Steel ongoing.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

why would you want an ongoing version of the comic whose only appeal was "look what they turn into in this one"

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:32 PM

Just do an adaptation of the first season and leave it at that.





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