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@  Plokatron : (24 February 2018 - 09:02 AM)

@unluckiness Heavy Weapons has bear hands! Too bad Demoman doesn't he sure wants some.

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2018 - 08:50 AM)

Who needs weapons when you can tear things apart with your BEAR HANDS

@  Echowarrior : (24 February 2018 - 08:41 AM)

I still love that toy. I just wish he had a handheld weapon of some sort.

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2018 - 08:20 AM)

Wow. Somebody actually remembered Polar Claw exists. I'm amazed.

@  Pennpenn : (24 February 2018 - 06:17 AM)

Well, if you like pork I guess.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2018 - 05:12 AM)

Delicious when slowly roasted over an open fire with the right herbs and spices?

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2018 - 05:03 AM)

What is a man?

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2018 - 04:45 AM)

Meh, humans, what have they done for me lately?

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2018 - 03:10 AM)

I'm sure God regrets wiping us out with a flood then promising never to do it again too soon. He had no idea just how low and depraved his creation would become later.

@  D Immortalis : (24 February 2018 - 01:58 AM)

yes. yes it should.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 11:39 PM)

I almost started a topic in the Politics & Religion thread entitled "Should humanity be wiped out?"

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 11:11 PM)

@Noideaforaname Slag oh well I have a better image host anyway. Thank you DA.

@  Noideaforaname : (23 February 2018 - 11:00 PM)

Wow, so Photobucket got rid of the "download albums" instead of trying to fix it. They sure know how to find new lows.

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 10:54 PM)

@Otaku I mean not going to start a flame war/argument on politics my friend. :D @Tm_Silverclaw I made a mistake about posting some personal junk the other day in Shout which would of been better suited to a purchase thread. I'm just trying not to make anyone mad is all by following what they asked me not to do. :) I'm sure you understand.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 February 2018 - 08:57 PM)

I don't get the complaint about long shouts...

@  Otaku : (23 February 2018 - 08:47 PM)

(Unless that was the point in which case, my bad! Went right over my head. XP)

@  Otaku : (23 February 2018 - 08:46 PM)

Um, @Plokatron, saying you're not going to get into politics in the Squawkbox right after getting into politics in the Squawkbox is so like politics, I think it counts as politInception. ;)

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 08:22 PM)

@2018 When I said I'd do it ASAP I meant first thing I got to my computer. I was on my Wii U at the time (still need to figure out why my switch won't connect via ethernet but Wii U is good for youtube before bed) I have made the change to the article if anyone finds it incorrect (and I doubt they will I know my Locomotives :D ) they can deal with it themselves. @Bass X0 What no "Just do it!"? :D and you are indeed right. Dump can kiss my skid plate. Obama was better than we like to think he was but not getting into politics here. That's what Threads are for if I even care. Now I must shut up this shout is too long again but it is relevent and not just my life this time.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 06:12 PM)

James Cameron doesn't have the resources to go deep enough to find THAT bar...

@  Foffy : (23 February 2018 - 05:38 PM)

it is a bar so low that it's deep underground

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:43 PM)

Not a high bar.

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:42 PM)

still a better quote than anything Trump has ever said.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:35 PM)

Thanks, Obama!

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:26 PM)

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

@  2018 : (23 February 2018 - 08:24 AM)

If anyone has an issue they'll revert your changes and tell you why on the wiki. If you're really bothered there's a thread on this board to ask in.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 09:35 PM)

@2018 I'll do so ASAP then if no one minds. :)

@  2018 : (22 February 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Go change it then!

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:22 PM)

Also I just found a Error not listed on the Wiki for "Plus One" episode of Prime. The locomotive in said episode starts with slow puffing sounds like a steam locomotive but it is clearly a Diesel-Electric.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:14 PM)

I said it wasn't recomended didn't I?

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:54 PM)

There's still the background radiation. If all you had was a sealed helmet and an air tank, how long would you want to hang out being dosed by that?

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:52 PM)

Far more likely for us to boil. Since no air pressure means rapid case of The Bends. If we were aclumated slow enough we could possibly keep going with a Oxygen tank and sealed helmet. But it's not recomended.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:49 AM)

Or a human would freeze to death if dumped out into the vacuum of outer space.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:46 AM)

Or the left hemisphere of the brain is exclusively responsible for logic while the right is responsible for creativity.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:45 AM)

@Pennpenn Haha, like human blood is blue without oxygen?

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 February 2018 - 10:30 AM)

That's a pretty crappy gift.

@  Robowang : (22 February 2018 - 09:45 AM)

The magic butthole fairy brought me a turd

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2018 - 07:28 AM)

Ah, the only "science fact" I dislike more than "humans only use 10% of the brain".

@  Foffy : (22 February 2018 - 01:39 AM)

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 10:22 PM)

Nothing wrong a good B movie now and then. What's bothering me is that the search on seems to work based on titles.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Not quite as bad as FilmRise's lineup, though

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Crackle is full of a lot of low budget B movies, too

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 09:47 PM)

urg. Sounds as bad as broadcast TV.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 08:24 PM)

Completely free. Has commercials inserted in awkward moments. IIRC they tend to slot some in right before the credits. So, show ends. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers. Credits. Buffers. Intro to next show. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 07:50 PM)

crackle is actually free too? I was oddly leary of that one for some reason, but couldn't find any proof it was pay.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:38 PM)

They ARE an official content licensor, not "one of those other free sites"

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:37 PM)

One of several free VOD sites/apps that are ad supported. I think Tubi is Paramount. Similar to Crackle, which is owned by Sony

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2018 - 06:51 PM)

what is Tubi tv?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 06:01 PM)

And there's an android app! Sweet!

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 05:57 PM)

oohhh, thanks for the heads up. Seems like lots of decent stuff on there too. Bookmarked.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 05:07 PM)

So, I guess Tubi TV got some deal with Hasbro. They got the entire Transformers saga through Animated...minus Beast Wars for some reason.


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#1 Scaramouche

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 09:28 PM

I loved MTMTE when it began but in its current form Lost Light, it's frankly sucked. 

 

If you were given the opportunity to do make an animated adaptation of it but were allowed to change what things you disliked or could improve on the story what would you do?

 

Here's what i'd do. 

 

Keep Season 1 mostly intact though maybe have Nautica on board in Season 1. 

The real question is do you keep Megatron in the 2nd season or remove him entirely changing the entire story? I'd probably keep him. 

Remove Dark Cybertron but still have the Lost Light go back to Cybertron because they're running out of supplies and after the Circle of Light thing, some bots want off Rodimus's wild ride. 

Initially stays the same until after issue 40. 

Getaway and Atomizer purposely trick the Protectobots to get off the ship forced to go to a coference to represent the lost light on a colony world for a month. (so no 6 month time skip between 49 & 50's issue) 47 is when they leave. 

Remove the personality ticks and Swervearth, now the Necroworld is a 2 parter, it combines the deal with Nautica's past, Velocity's introduction, replace Thunderclash joining the crew with Countdown (hence you can have him join the mutiny without questioning Thunderclash's moral fiberness as much) and introduce Road Rage so she can be a female mutineer and Crosscut's love interest. The Necroworld second parter has a funeral for Trailbreaker where this sows the seeds for a mutiny when Megatron tries to speak and certain bots start to question the leadership of the LL hierarchy. Also a poker night with Swerve, Bluestreak and future mutineers, then the bullet from Swervearth Swerve had lodged in him comes into play but then that happens into what issue 47 was. almost them getting on track until Getaway/Cyclonus/Tailgate drama ruins that progress. 

Keep the Scavangers issue in tact after the Necroworld arc. 

Issue/episode 48 doesn't gloss over everything that happened in 47 like it did in the comic. Cyclonus is injured badly but doesn't recover as easily, is back for 50. 

The holiday issue from 2015 is adapted as the last episode before episode 50. 

50 mostly plays out as it does. 

51 brings in Overlord at the halfway point of the episode with Ratchet and Drift's return ending the episode.

52 is where Drift has his reunion with everyone. Megatron and Drift have a moment which was sorely lacking from the original arc. Most of the Overlord and Tarn shenanigans happen in this one. Episode ends when Skids reveals to Brainstorm what happened to Quark making Brainstorm pissed at him. 

53 the DJD finally just straight up go on the attack, forcing the RodSquad to split up into small teams to take on all their enemies with wit, firepower and no bullshit superpower up modes. Megatron learns of the fools energon thing much sooner from Ratchet, someone gives Megatron the lesson he really needed about true pacifism that it's fine to defend you and your loved ones. 

54 is where the meat of the action occur. Skids is killed by one of the DJD members, he still does the scum thing as his final words. Tarn kills Kaon like he did in the comic for letting the pet escape. Deathsaurus and Nickel leave in disgust of what Tarn did to Kaon. The other DJD are defeatedone by one by the Squad. Overlord is forced to leave as the request of his superiors at the Galactic Council and when Tarn is all alone now, Ravage attacks only to be torn in half as the cliffhanger pissing Megatron off. 

55 Megatron vs Tarn one on one. We get more of an insight of what created Tarn. Tarn in this version is not one bot but two. he's both Roller and Glitch. Roller Tarn is the Tarn Skids knew and Glitch Tarn is the current Tarn. Megatron finally kills Tarn but in a more satisfying manner. Skids is now dead, Nautica mourns his loss, Brainstorm is depressed Skids died with him being angry at him. The Pet is found and the Dominus Ambus thing is revealed, same thing happens in the comic. They all try to keep is quiet that Dominus became the pet from Magnus. season ends with Ravage's death & Megatron flipping the table.

 

Lost Light 1/S3 begins with Anode and Lug appearing to get rescued....but not. They're killed off, thus improving the series. 

The Necrobot bringing certain bots back thing happens but it's all new characters outside of Kaput and Fangry different from the book. No Roller, No Terminus. Megatron suffers a spark attack, his insides all hugged from the fight from Tarn and the stress of Ravage's death sets him over the edge, during the episode where introduced to the new characters adjusting to learning they've survived the war and it's (mostly) peace time. Episode ends with Megatron stabilized but in a coma. 

Issue 2 all the bullshit with Tailgate and him beating up Fangry and all that crap. Nautica grieves over both Skids and Ravage's deaths. It's a self-reflection episode. Everybody realizes Megatron did good here and doesn't bad mouth him when he's gone. Rodimus finally decides the next course of action, beat Getaway to the punch and take back their ship. 

Issue 3, basically issue 7. They don't build a ship out of a carcass, they make it out of the Necrobots place. Tailgate stays behind to deal with his power but of course Fangry hugs him over as it happened in comic, Tailgate never comes back ever. 

Issue 4 focuses on Megatron in his coma fever dream, all the Functionist arc stuff happens in here. Anode only exists in his dream, stuff like that. 

Issue 5 what LL 10 is about, the Protectobots come back and Getaway's in charge. Nothing really changes much. 

Issue 6, LL 11 essentially minus the bad political references. Though we get more focus through the mutineers, like we see what they think but of course Froid and Sunder begin to mess with people's minds. ends with the Riptide cliffhanger.

 

Issue/Episode 7 & 8 intermission from the mutineers, covers what happened in LL 8 & 9 with Nautica almost selling her friendship with Velocity. Swerve and either Drift or Rung take Anode and Lug's spots coming with Nautica & Velocity. No stealing but we learn Swerve's metallurgist past, Wipe-Out is brought in as Swerve's old friend. Wipe-Out has Anode's stealing problem. Mengle gets a re-name because naming a robot after a Nazi is stupid. Don't have Nautica lose any caring of Skids (and Ravage) at all in the end, she learns that you need to eventually move on and stop sulking. Mengle's workship is attacked by the Galactic Council and hence they loose Skids's brain module but can't just go back. Scorponok reveal is still intact. They also have plans to use Skids brain to create a new robot (so Skids come back but all wrong and now their enemy...design would be based on either the RID2001 version or ROTF version), also features Rodimus yelling at Nautica and co. for hugging the entire mission up and losing Skids. 

episode 9, what LL 12 is except, Rook gets some actual focus before dying. One of the mutineers maybe Bluestreak learning what Getaway is up to and joining First Aid, The Protectobots, Riptide and Thunderclash. Mirage still dies. Defensor actually beats the crap out of Getaway just inches from death but is still defeated by Star Saber. Proper confirmation that Getaway was always a mole from Tyrest, Atomizer is still alive but begins self doubting real hard in a what have I done but tries to keep appearances up.Don't have them find Cyberutopia just yet, save it for a later episode. 

episode 10 -  no Anode's head in ass since she will no longer exist.

 

 

thoughts?


Edited by Scaramouche, 19 January 2018 - 09:28 PM.


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Posted 20 January 2018 - 05:42 AM

just adapt the good parts
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 06:26 AM

I'll be honest, the comics went downhill starting with season 2. There were some good comics in there, but then we have Swerve planet, personality ticks & some other oddball shenanigans that really feel out of place.

I like elements of LL, but I wish it was more like season 1.
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Posted 20 January 2018 - 06:32 AM

It's easy. Get a head writer whose head isn't up their own orifice

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:08 AM

The political references are more subtle.



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 11:25 AM

It's very similar to the comic, but instead of Rung, it has lasting consequences for the writer's favorite characters.

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:31 PM

Rook should be inserted into every single scene, always in the background, poking his head over someone's shoulder.



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Posted 20 January 2018 - 12:35 PM

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Posted 20 January 2018 - 01:30 PM

Sometimes things you like can just end up sucking.

 

It's a lot healthier to accept that than pretending it could magically be better if you tweak it in ways that can never happen.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:07 AM

Rook should be inserted into every single scene, always in the background, poking his head over someone's shoulder.

One: Rook needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine.

 

Two: whenever Rook's not on-panel, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Rook?"


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:39 AM

Sometimes things you like can just end up sucking.

 

It's a lot healthier to accept that than pretending it could magically be better if you tweak it in ways that can never happen.

 

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:36 PM

Whenever Rook isn't on screen everyone should be asking, "Where's Rook?"



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:10 PM

Alternate universe where MTMTE never happens and instead we get a Hearts of Steel ongoing.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 07:54 PM

why would you want an ongoing version of the comic whose only appeal was "look what they turn into in this one"

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:32 PM

Just do an adaptation of the first season and leave it at that.





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