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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

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And Then They Fight (Comic Series)

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#1 Blade Raider

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:30 PM

7/29/18: The first post of the thread is now an archive with direct links to the comics. Right now it's just And Then They Fight. I'm working on TAOWAR's archive to go below it, but that's going to take awhile.

And Then They Fight Archive
#1 Megazord VS Voltron:
Pg00 Pg01 Pg02 Pg03 Pg04 Pg05 Pg06 Pg07 Pg08 Pg09 Pg10 Pg11 Pg12
#2 Joe VS Fury
#3 Battle on the Rainbow
#4 PokeBots:
Pg00 Pg01 Pg02 Pg03 Pg04 Pg05 Pg06 Pg07 Pg08
#5 Spotlight Megatron Abridged
#6 Playtime is Over
#7 Powered Hugged
#8 Mini-con Gattai!
#9 Saving the Important People
#10 Sëngoku
#11 Have a Heart
#12 Weapons of War
#13 Happy Cybertron Monday
#14 Sharkticon Tank
#15 Re: What the Heck is a Fuzor?!
#16 It's 40% Stolen
#17 Musou Unrivaled
#18 Play Like It's 1987!
One Shot: Shiners
#19 Inner Conflict
#20 Attack on Primate
#21 Count the Dew
#22 A Fate Worse than HFIL
#23 90's Breakfast
#24 Vermins and Planets
#25 The Pilot Who Cried Gundam
#26 A Slash in Time Pg01 Pg02
#27 The Finest of Art
#28 Playthings
#29 Like Family
#30 Interviews
#31 I Don't Want To Grow Up
#32 Re: The Instructions Only Make it Worse
#33 I Can't Believe My Hun-Grrr
#34 A Date With Death
#35 The Super Sentai Experience

Edited by Blade Raider, 29 July 2018 - 12:37 AM.

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Edited by Blade Raider, 17 January 2018 - 07:32 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2018 - 07:37 PM

All caught up. Now for a new one!



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 12:49 AM


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Posted 10 February 2018 - 06:37 PM

Here's a one off I posted in the TF Picture thread a while back called Shiners, a parody of Cheers. Thought I'd make more but never did. I might use the setting in ATTF some day, so figure I might as well add it here.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 05:34 PM

I was planning on doing something special for #30, but there's a bigger project I want to work on for an issue a little further down the line, so here's a short one for #30.


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Posted 16 March 2018 - 06:41 PM

I think I made myself said with my own comic.


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Posted 08 April 2018 - 01:12 PM

I have something to talk about below, but first a new comic.
Issue 37 of And Then They Fight will be something special, possibly the longest comic I've ever made. Before ATTF, I had a different comic called TAOWAR: The Adventures of W. and Raider. The first issue of And Then They Fight was actually meant as a special one shot of TAOWAR. In fact, the characters in that issue are major characters in TAOWAR.

What does this have to be with issue 37 of ATTF? Well, I ended issue 36 of TAOWAR on a cliffhanger and that was the last issue. I want to fix that. Issue 37 of ATTF will also be issue 37 of TAOWAR. There is a problem with this, none of you guys have read TAOWAR and the places hosting the old comics are a mix of dead image hosts and dead forums. There is over 300 image files of TAOWAR in total, about half of which are the core story.
So, with all of that said, I want to make TAOWAR available again before issue 37. Starting tomorrow, I will be posting one comic of TAOWAR a day.
-It's worth noting that this comic was started in April of 2007, 11 years ago. Some images have degraded over the years and I will not be re-editing these comics beyond some cleaning and spelling errors.
-I will be adding some commentary/notes below each comic of how I feel about them now.
-I plan to only do story related comics for now. There were a lot of one off "Filler Funnies" and specials that have no bearing on the story.
-At some point, I plan to turn the first post of the thread into an archive with direct image links to every comic image. This will be for both ATTF and TAOWAR to keep things organized.
-I'm not skipping ATTF #34, 35, or 36. They will be either new comics as they come to me or I may re-edit a few of those Filler Funnies I don't plan to re-release at this time.
-If you're wondering, Issue 37 is about halfway done and I just finished editing page 19. I told you it's going to be long.
So, see you all tomorrow for my biggest and best mistake.

Edited by Blade Raider, 08 April 2018 - 01:12 PM.

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Posted 09 April 2018 - 12:12 PM


The following is a forward used in old threads on old forums. I feel this is still the best way to tell how it all started.
In the Begining:
It all started in early 2007 when me, Archangel (my brother), and Star the Wanderer (one of our friends) was at Hero Hq (a local comic shop). The owner had gotten a ton of unsorted G.I. Joes stuff. As we were looking through them, Star and Arch found a Joe that looked like me (Outback), then Star found a Joe that looked like a young President George W. Bush (Crosshair). By the end of the day, we had so much fun with these figures that I decided to do a one shot comic with these two figures (and the Cobra-La Royal Guard), then it became a full comic series. While it was originally a simple joke comic, as time went on I added more story, action, and even some drama (also, my photo skills got better, but I'm not that good still). However, I keep the comedy in because I like fiction that can make fun of itself. I hope you enjoy!

There is a wall of text below the comic to better talk about TAOWAR as a whole. All I want to add here is to say that this is a comic from over a decade ago and is a product of where I was at the time. I promise most posts won't be this long. Now, on to the comic.



From this first comic, you may not see how this leads to a cliffhanger so big that I need to resolve it. To hopefully make this easier to understand, I'm going to compare this comic to Dragon Ball. From just the first episode of Dragon Ball, you'd never guess that the little kid with a tail would one day be fighting an alien land shark on a slug planet that's about to explode. Same principal here.

While the comic was originally a simple joke comic as stated above, I added more to it over time. I like shonen anime, so I added flashy anime attacks. I like time travel, so there's a paradox in season 2. I like toku, so there's some transformations. I like character arcs, so there's some drama later on.

I would like to note that these are old comics made over a decade ago. Not only have the image files degraded over the years, I was also a young 20 something that enjoyed the humor of the time. A lot of that humor might be dated and maybe in poor taste sometimes (There's some jokes I won't defend). I've decided to leave them un-edited (beyond spelling errors) just because I wouldn't stop if I did.

Now, let's address the elephant in the room: The W. in the title is that W. Yesterday, I mentioned today's comic was "my biggest and best mistake." I should've never put W. in the title. That was my biggest mistake. I tried to retitle it a few times, but TAOWAR has such a nice ring to it. Anyways, while we're talking about W. I want to say that this is not a political comic. It's just a comic that happens to have a goofy President character in the comic relief role. W. is downplayed in later comics and he would've been written out long ago if I hadn't written myself into a storyline I couldn't get out of. Issue 37 will retire this character. As for my best mistake, that was starting the comic to begin with.

now, I do want to take the time to list off every comic from TAOWAR I'll be posting.
Season One: The Leader-1 Saga
Arc I: Escape From the Himalayas (5 parts)
Arc II: Attack of the Forgotten Zombie Go-Bots! (5 parts)
Filler Funnies I: Cultural Differences (This is the only import FF because of a character introduction)
Arc III: Botcon Gaiden 2007 (5 parts)
Arc IV: Return to the White House (6 parts)

Tales of the Time Thief
The Tale of the Technodrome (2 parts)

Season Two: The Paradox Saga
Arc I: A Better World, A Cobra World (5 parts)
Arc II: Hangin' With My Gnome (2 parts)
Arc III: Before the Storm (2 parts)
Side Story: The Gnome's Forte (1 parts)
Arc IV: Time Storm (2 parts, 2 issues, starting here each part has it's own title)
Part I: Good Morning!
Part II: Danger Zone
Part III: The Final Countdown
Part IV: Number One

That's 38 comics total, which is off if Issue 37 will be the finale. Well, Filler Funnies never counted, so that's one. The other skipped number I honestly can't remember. I either skipped "The Gnome's Forte" or miscounted how many parts "Return to the White House" was when I turned over to Issue numbers.

Thanks to anyone that read all my rumbling. I promise me talking won't be this long very often. Come back tomorrow to meet W's arch nemesis : Desert Claw.

Edited by Blade Raider, 09 April 2018 - 12:14 PM.

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Posted 10 April 2018 - 10:34 AM

Just going to do some random thoughts today.
-In early comics, especially this first arc, I treated W. and Raider as a comedy duo. Raider's the straight man that hates his job and W's the funny man and crazy boss.
-Much like W. himself, I need to address Desert Claw in a similar fashion. Desert Claw was created to be W's version of Cobra Commander, the silly 80's cartoon one. Desert Claw looks like a stereotypical terrorist at the time and might come off badly to some. Later on I do reveal in a bio (which I may post at some point) that he comes from a family that helps spread discord in the world. For example, his father was a Nazi.
-Tuskie is named here. Believe or not, he may very well be the most developed character in the comic. It takes a while to get there though. At one point I considered giving him a real name starting with W so he could replace W. in the title, but never got that far.
-First cliffhanger. Most parts end something like this with either a cliffhanger or a plot reveal.
-Starting with this comic, I had to use stands on figures. I try to hide them better in later comics.
Tomorrow: the introduction of Archangel, my brother, as we try to escape the Desert Claw.


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Posted 11 April 2018 - 11:47 AM


-Archangel_B4U. My brother. I don't see him in the online fandom to often, but I believe he's a member on TFW2005. If you've read ATTF #1, he's there...and looking very different. Both me and him were never happy with the GI Joe Muskrat being used for him.

-I ad libbed most of this first arc and didn't do good photo coverage. I would take a picture and move onto the next pose. Basically what I'm saying is these photos are awful.

-First "death" of the comic. Honestly, I just needed the monster out of the way.

-How did Archangel get the umbrella? I don't know! Yes, I'm pointing out my own continuity errors. Someone has to.

-"hug" is said. I don't do that to often. You will see "slag" more often though. I hadn't learned of what it meant in the UK yet and I only knew it as the catch all curse from Beast Wars.

Tomorrow: The conclusion of Escape From the Himalayas. There's 5 parts in this arc, but the 5th part is just a short epilogue so I'm going to post it up with Part IV.

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Posted 12 April 2018 - 09:56 AM

-This is the most self-contained arc. Beginning, middle, end, with little in way of setting up or leading into the next arc. That changes with the next arc and never stops.
-Part IV starts a running gag about Desert Claw's name. W. can not get it right. Also, in yesterday's comic Desert Claw got my name wrong, but that's him being a mean villain. W. literally can not remember Claw's name.
-I remember a conscious decision to make the throwing joke. I wanted Blade to completely fail at something. I also really like the pile of skipped over weapons to this day.
-I like how I made walls to fill in the play set's missing walls, but then couldn't keep the back drop out of frame. I use this set later to much better effect.
-Chekhov's umbrella. I just wanted to say that.
-I didn't think I'd have to mention this until the next comic, but I should address it now. These are not the original copies of the comic. At some point I realized the font was to small and wanted to correct some typos and other things. This is that re-edited version and the biggest change is here. There was a flight stand from I think ToyBiz Marvel Legends that I edited out as best as I could. I think it turned out well considering what I had to work with. Either way, I love how dumb this ending is.
-You can tell this was made a decade ago because if I made it now W. would be yelling "I'm Mary Poppins, y'all!" Just saying, Guardian of the Galaxy totally stole that gag from me. :p
-The Epilogue part was just me wanting a "next time Gadget" line from Claw. The Zelda get item joke I used again later. To soon if you ask me.
Tommorrow comes the terror that is Leader-1 and his Zombie Go-Bots.

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Posted 13 April 2018 - 12:49 PM


-I believe Go-Bots is spelled a few different ways in these comics, so I just left them as is so long as it reads Go-Bots in some way.

-I love the hand drawn White House Set. I still have it to. Wish I had done more of those. Maybe I'll do that for a comic I've been thinking about and having a hard time finding something to use for a background.

-Character intro: Wolfangel, my brother's girlfriend, now wife (That might be a spoiler now that I think about it). I didn't know what to do with her every on and it's not helped by the fact that, at the tme, women action figures in that scale weren't that plentiful and I had to settle for a Baroness with removable glasses. Ignore the Cobra emblem on her chest. I paint over that before season 1 is over.

-I still like the Clinton joke.

-Forum characters: I never said what forum this comic started on, Transfandom. One thing I decided to do is fill some side character roles with forum members. The first was Wonko and I can't remember why. Might've just been the funny name. There's a lot more in the next arc. I don't regret putting forum characters in the comic, but I don't think I would today unless I knew them in person or a long time.

-Blade completely destorys the 4th wall here. In these early comics, everyone was kind of self aware about being in a comic. Later I made a rule that only W. knows that.

-First bit of TAOWAR lore. GI Joe was disbanded and Hasbro makes toys. Oddly enough, right around this time was when the 25th GI Joe line was starting. Side note, there's a small cameo by a future character in the flashback.

-And knowing is half the battle! aka low hanging fruit comedy.

-Suddenly, Cy-Kill in the square shaped oval office. The White House's security is at it's finest today.

-Ladies and gentlemen, the villain of season 1: Leader-1. Why is he a villain? Beacuse Hasbro named a Minicon after him. That's motive right there.

-I love henchmen. They're like W, but not in charge and I can kill them off afterward.

Tomorrow: Jokes that make no sense in hindsight, an attempted big fight scene, and a deleted scene as the Zombie Go-Bots attack the White House.

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Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:46 PM

-Some of the weapons here have stuck with the characters. The sword Blade is using is even named later. I had limited swords at the time, so Archangel got a sword neither of us were happy with, but I never did get to replace it with something better. Whoops.
-Thought about correcting the spelling error of "I can shotgun!" but honestly the error makes me laugh.
-The Reboot gag...because LOL random humor was in at the time and I needed to switch Blade and Archangel to the new bodies.
-Both figures go through revisions later on (mainly Blade's coat and Archangel's hat), but this is generally how they look for the rest of the comic. For a better idea of what these figures look like later on, take a look at the header at the beginning, that was made in late season 2.
-If I had known Aaron Archer was the designer of that Jar Jar toy, I would've used it for something else later.
-While I don't think the Icon joke works well in hindsight due to world rules I put in place later, the icons were used later on in a Halloween Special to put on costumes. I may post that in October if I remember. I really like that comic.
-Wow, look at all the characters with guns. I'm not saying I don't use guns now, but I use them far less and this comic is a good example of why.
-Hey look, the first Transformer in the comic, Cliffjumper. He comes out of no where, has 2 lines, dies 3 panels later, and the joke? The toy came with no weapons, that's the joke. I want to say that this is the worst example of lol random humor in the comic, but I fear it will prove me wrong.
-Look at those bullets. I will never claim my effects are great or even good, but I've improved since this.
-Filler fight lines aka times when I steal lines from fiction I enjoy.
-Hey, it's Spay-C! We'll talk about him later.
-Edited out the stand holding Archangel when he attacks Spay-C. I can not remember if that was in the original or the re-edit, but I believe it was the re-edit.
-The 2 panels where Wolfangel stays behind were originally cut. It was also longer. At the time I thought it was too serious. In the re-edit, I added it back in and shorten it to this just so you knew she was stying behind.
Tomorrow: A tree, a captain, and a dingy!

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Posted 15 April 2018 - 11:23 AM

-The U.S.S. Flounder. This is actually a toy my brother had left over from childhood. I can't rememory how this made it into the comic, but I believe it was just us joking around.
-I like to think my water effects got better, but I do kind of miss just how cartoony this looks.
-Jack Sparrow. This was before even the hardcore fans were sick of Pirates of the Caribbean. I mainly put him in here for practice at writing characters with a different way of speaking.
-Yep, Leader-1 wants Aaron Archer. That is the plot.
-Now for one of my favorites: the Pretty Tree disguise. I frankly love everything about this scene. It has exposition, it has this laughably bad disguise that would fool no one fooling everyone, and Spay-C with doofy lines. But enough of tooting my own horn, I still just really like how this scene turned out.
-W. is singing (bad) parody lyrics for the Touch.
-Suddenly giant monster. They are quite common in the ocean between DC and New York...Can you tell I was paying no mind to geography when I wrote this?
-Hey, the first anime attack! More on that next time. Also, Star the Wanderer shows up. Like my brother, I used a figure I happened to have at the time. This one stuck for the longest time, though I did later change to the black version later. Like Archangel, he has a different toy used in ATTF#1 and once TAOWAR is over, if/when he appears he'll be using that toy.
Tomorrow: The Safehouse, even more new characters, and a muppet!

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Posted 16 April 2018 - 12:49 AM


-The Safehouse aka the 2003 TMNT Lair. This became the main set for Filler Funnies, specials, etc. for most of the run. I believe much later I reveal that this is actaully the lair the Turtles used, but they had already moved out.

-Yes, Yoda is in this comic and he is a long time supporting character. He even gets some fights later. Much like Jack, I was trying to find characters that talk different.

-It's mentioned later on in this comic, but this Scarlett is not THE Scarlet, she is the original Scarlet's daughter. This Scarlett's real name is Renee O'Hara. I do more with her later, but for now she's mainly just Star's girlfriend and sidekick.

-Kai Blast: I've been calling them anime attacks up until now. I don't remember why I went with Kai Blast, but I know I was aiming for something easy to remember and cliche sounding.

-Now for even more characters! Think the comic has too many character yet? Too bad, there's more coming!

-So GI Joe...I never explained them in the comic proper. I made a one off comic explaining them, but I frankly find it a dry read. It's a comic that I'll probably only post if end up posting every comic. All you need to know is GI Joe was reformed privately. That Duke is not THE Duke or related in any way. The rest are the original characters. They're here to be the heroes to are defeated by the big bad.

-Once again this is the re-edit. The original has basically the same lines explaining the Kai Blasts, but I went back and made it more closely resemble the final format of Kai Blasts. There were originally just the 4 Elements. I also added colors.

-Now I remember why I kept the name Kai Blast. Because I wanted Yoda to say KB Toys.

-I'll be commenting on Kai Blasts as they appear proper.

-Because the umbrella wasn't enough, W. had to have a plunger. I also mentioned I reused that Zelda gag to soon. Here it is.

-Oh look, the bad also has a Kai Blast in the comic to introduces the concept, what a shocker. Also, no, you're not going to see it yet.

-Perfect Fatal Blast is based on the Spirit Ball (not bomb) from Dragon Ball. It's simple and useful. Aside from Blade's Kai Blast, it might be the most used. I believe the the extra effects in panel were added in the re-edit. Original just had the ball forming

-The Libertas and Aether terms were added in the re-edit. I don't think it's ever explained better, but Aether is the Element of the soul. Think of it as the non-elemental.

-And now the comic turns into MST3K for the rest of the comic. I had no idea how to end this one on a funny note, so this happened.


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Posted 17 April 2018 - 01:00 AM

And bonus for today, the one Filler Funny I mentioned before.
-Kai Blast: Destructive Hand of Unicron. This Kai Blast is an in joke with my brother. For a few years I had Armada Unicron on a shelf next to be door and every time he walked into my room he had to light up Unicron's hand and yelling "Burning Finger!" So of course when it was time to give him a Kai Blast it was going to be this. So yeah, this is based on the Burning/God Gundam's Burning/God Finger attack, but with an Unicron element added to it.
-The cross eyed was a happy accident found in editing.
-And now Roger talks because I can't go one comic without a new character. Roger is just a side character that is just there. At some point I planned for him to be writing the comic, but I never did anything with it.
-Suddenly, rum. So this is the everybody gets drunk issue. Enjoy
-Every so often I allow Yoda to break his sentence structure. He does it once here and I don't think I let him do it again until near the end.
-The Jedi mind trick joke still puts a smile on my face.
-Kai Blast: Stone Passion Wack. This is the joke Kai Blast. W. uses it to better effect later on as the real version of it forms a rock in front of the plunger and throws it. Basically, W. has the power to throw rocks. Also, the pose is generally a magical girl pose.
-Drunken Yoda is the best. He talks correctly and uses slang. Also, he burns things.
-Kai Blast: Metallic Summoning Execution. You thought the comic had to many characters before? Blade's Kai Blast is a character generator! MWHAHA! Surprisingly there's only been 9 different summons so far. So yeah, it's a summoning technique. Blade can summon many different Water (and a couple of Ice) based Transformers. The Kai Blast itself is based on my love for Final Fantasy summons and the visual scroll + blood of Naruto summons.
-First Summon: Seaspray. Thing to note about Summoned TFs is that most are my own versions of the characters, so they will acted differently sometimes. Like here, Seaspray's entire personality is says "my bubbles," a line from Finding Nemo. One day I might upgrade him to the TR toy, but the personality is likely to stay.
-You may ask if Blade Raider is me. The answer is yes, but I don't drink. There are no other differences.
(There's a lot of other differences)
-The narrator has some meta jokes here. I probably should've just cut al that.
-The Filler Funny. Doesn't look important, does it? Like that Gnome C-what was his name again? Either way, he's a is a completely forgettable side character. Seriously though, Gnome Prime (as I properly named him later) is a background for the rest of season 1 and gets a bigger role in season 2. Also,
Tomorrow: Does the comic not have enough Transformers or Transformers fans for you? Lucky for you tomorrow Botcon 2007...as a tournament arc.

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Posted 18 April 2018 - 12:00 PM

-I said I wasn't going to edit anything beyond spelling errors, I lied. However, I will give my reasons why when we get to those lines.
-This is the first comic to have colored narration boxes as all the characters recap events. I do this a few times. I may have to re-edit some down the line to make them readable, but the ones here seem to be okay.
-Second Summon: Deepdive. The submarine Minicon from Cybertron. His personality is mafia thug. Forgot to mention last time that the first 3 Summons have full profile pages in the same format as W. and Claw.
-I mentioned that the re-edit from years ago created a plot hole. Here it is. In the re-edit, Yoda says Blade can't summon the set until he's summoned all 5. 2 are currently summoned when this line is said. I fixed it, changed to the training being completed once all were summoned. I would've changed it back to the original line, but it's been lost over the years.
-Third Summon: Shortround. Hey, look who's here! Aside from those that appear in ATTF #1, Shortround is the only other character to appear in both comics (in fact, ATTF #32 is a re-edit of a Filler Funny). I love this character. He breaks the 4th wall in that he sees everything as a toy. Of course, he's based on the tiny bio Hasbro gave him. Like Seaspray and Deepdive, he has a profile, but Shortround has a double page one.
-I sadly didn't use the Galaxy Force News Report as much as I wanted. Still love the name though.
-Aaron Archer. Yeah, I started running out of toys. I knew Aaron Archer had designed Optimus Minor so I used that. If I had known that he designed all the Jar Jar toys, I would've used that instead.
-I believe the Angry Archer reference was always there as the character was revealed at Botcon 07 and this comic was made after.
-Forum character: HMRC4EVR. If you know of any of the people the forum characters are based on, it's probably Headmaster Don here. Like with Archer, I was running low on toys and I finally used Energon Arcee and said he was the Headmaster. If I made this today, it would be TR Arcee, of course.
-Side note, I just realized I've been mispelling HMRC4EVR's screen name for 11 years! Much like "Go-Bots" I'm not willing fix all those errors.
-The panel talking about how the Headmaster-ing works is the other panel I changed. Why? Because it was a bad line and implies something that shouldn't be implied. If this line had been Blade or W. I would've left it alone, but I put the line in a friend's mouth and I didn't like that.
-The hat gag is something that happens in real life...I regret nothing. Also, this might be the only time you see Archangel without the hat on.
-More random side characters with BBBB and Little Zaku. They aren't based on anyone, just here to move things forward.
-Oh god, 5 more forum characters. Haven't seen a lot of these guys in ages. The only one of these I still talk to on a regular basis is Paladin. Once again I was running low on toys, otherwise I would've made them Joes. Agent X lasts the longest in the comic , but only because he ran a different comic on the same forum. I treat him as an extra W. Why? because I hate myself like that.
-For those that might not remember, at Botcon 07 they screened the 07 Transformers movie a couple of weeks before the release everywhere.
-If I remember correctly the original idea was to have a tournament arc here regardless to let everyone get use to the Kai Blasts. The Botcon theming came after I had gotten back and wanted to do both ideas. Honestly I think it works fairly well in the plotline.
Tommorrow, the first 4 rounds of the tournament and an uninvited guest!

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