I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.
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#41
Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:07 PM
I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.
#42
(Deactivated) Smitty
Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:55 PM
I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.
Me too.
#43
(Deactivated) BB Shockwave
Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:40 AM
They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.
Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then...


Nope. I honestly don't think even they knew, lol. But wisely, the people who came in to work on Season 4 just ignored it once they'd used the Space Nazis to bring the Temporal Cold War to a close.
Your idea about the reason the ToS Klingons were so... different is quite nice. I liked the Enterprise explanation for the "no ridges" thing too.

So... I guess they were just "making it up as they went" with the Temporal War, much like on LOST?
And man, what's with ST and Space nazis? Is it, like a requirement that they have such episodes... Voyager had nazi Hirogens, ToS had nazi planets... I was quite disappointed Enterprise had it too. Guys, WWII was 60 years ago. Give it a rest already, nazis and soviets have been done to death in television as villains.
Edited by BB Shockwave, 30 November 2012 - 10:49 AM.
#44
(Deactivated) Smitty
Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:26 PM
They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.
Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then...


This was during Enterprise, so yeah they had already meat the Klingots. As for making "peace" with them I'm sure they had one of tow crews get killed before they sent some one who was pon farring and dealt with them.
#45
Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:51 PM
It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.
Why?
Robert Orci
Gary Kurtzman
and...
DAMON LINDELOF
The unholy trinity of hollywood writers. Thrown in Abrams ADD, and this one may not coast on the charm of the cast (and I like 2009 trek).
#46
Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:14 AM
Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.
i almost dont care what the next movie is about so long as he has a bigger role. he was the best and slid into it so well
i liked her too til she and the borg started getting shoved down our throats on a weekly basis. seems like every week itd be the seven of nine show. of course she was sleeping with one of the producers so that might explain why she got so much air time

but...what about the original episodes where he got emotional?
i dont think the ferengi would make good movie villians. mabye if they were re-invented as something other than the latinum lovers they got turned into maybe, but thats part of their charm
im all for cardassians. those guys can be nasty
i actually kinda liked the hirogen
Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:32 AM.
#47
Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:27 AM
Recent novels have proven the Tholians and Breen can make great antagonists for the Federation, and provide for a much-needed break from Romulans or Klingons as the go-to villains of the week. And although I'd never heard of them before some of these books, the Tzenkethi also seem to be huge pains in the ass. Even the Gorn could be interesting (and different from the norm) villains, provided the setting is the 23rd century as they were apparently on better terms with the Federation during the 24th.

#48
Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:44 AM
im still trying to figure if taking us (the viewers) into the contiuum was a good idea. sure it gave us a good episode (death wish i think it was?), but q lost some of his charm then. sure, we KNEW they were there, but actually seeing more of them? not so good. expect for suzi plakson

q was great when he was the condescending a$$ that pestered picard and sucked as the love-struck for janeway. i attribute that to delancie and mulgrew being good friends before voyager started
plus its voyager so...lol
they were mentioned in a ds9 episode. cant remember which one right off (have you noticed im rather terrible with episode names? lol), but it was the one where sisko finally became a captain and odo kills a changling. in the ep, they were very concerned about a war with them starting. well, theyre worried about ANY war starting lol but things seemed more tense with them (i also think they said the federation had ALREADY been in a war with them at some point)
oh yeah. in ds9 they came up with that weapon that was able to shut down federation vessels didnt they? wonder if they ever figured out how they did that? been wantin to watch ds9 again anyway...
Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:47 AM.
#49
Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:35 AM
Then again, Voyager never was any worse for wear after an episode, even when it was attacking Borg Unimatrix Complexes. In the real world, the sheer amount of damage Voyager sustained in its first two seasons (To say nothing of it's poorly realized "organic" Computer system) would have rendered it a useless hulk. It's a good thing they made those twenty plus Photon Torpedoes, Five Shuttles, and Fifteen replacement Gel Packs last seven years and countless light years to get home.
Plus, you know, despite being on "Replicator Rations" there was always plenty of power for the Holodeck.
Voyager could have been a really good show if any kind of care had gone into it.
#51
Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:32 AM
Indeed. Karl's the best part of J.J. Trek. He's the only guy who actually does his best to do his stuff right.
Not even Quinto is anywhere near awesomeness of Karl. Quinto has the looks but rest... PFFFT! Can't even do Vulcan greeting, as if it's super-complicated gymnastics.
So yeah, Karl = Awesome.
And with Judge Dredd he continued to prove it. I'm not being sarcastic, he IS awesome.
As for Voyager... good God! That's a show that advocated suicide out of BOREDOM. Yeah. In their first Q episode they encounter a Q that wants to commit suicide simply because he's BORED. That is mindbogglingly idiotic. And then there's warp 10 episode... a pinnacle of moronic idiocy.
Edited by D.M, 03 December 2012 - 09:42 AM.
#52
Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:49 AM


Star Trek: The Dark Knight!
Okay, that actually looks kind of fresh...for Star Trek.
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#53
Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:24 AM
I wonder if that skyscraper on the right means that some of it will be set in London, or if it's just supposed to be a generic skyline of random space-age buildings. It sometimes seems like the only big modern city in Federation-era Earth is San Francisco.
#54
Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:11 PM
It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.
Why?
Robert Orci
Gary Kurtzman
and...
DAMON LINDELOF
The unholy trinity of hollywood writers. Thrown in Abrams ADD, and this one may not coast on the charm of the cast (and I like 2009 trek).
Those guys pretty much guarantee it won't be a character-drive story.
#56
Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:55 PM


Star Trek: The Dark Knight!
Wow, I must be losing it. It took me two days to notice the shape of the hole in the building. Great layout work there.
Ryougabot
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