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@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 10:41 PM)

English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

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English needs to revive book in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

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English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

@  Nevermore : (15 May 2021 - 12:38 PM)

English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

@  Bass X0 : (15 May 2021 - 09:45 AM)

English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

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English needs to revive bort in everyday text

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English needs to revive bork in everyday text

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English needs to revive dork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Ģorn in everyday text.

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Generations Nightbeat never really scratched that itch sadly; he looked okay, but his transformation was fiddly, his robot mode had far too many bits and pieces flopping around unsecured, and his chest dragged along the surface in var mode. =/

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:57 AM)

I second wishing that we got a Deluxe Nightbeat from TR, mostly because as a kid he was second-in-command to my old Powermaster Optimus for the longest time. =P

@  tigerhawk : (08 May 2021 - 05:41 AM)

Wipe Out and Wilder it coulda been: Wipe Out is down in the dumps because the Scramble City Trypticon was destroyed and left him a drifting to the point he arrives in Legends World, he finds Wilder and both go on a crime spree subverted by their realisation neither gets any joy from it until they stop a violent crook together and become anti heroes. (Bass XO beat me!)

@  Bass X0 : (08 May 2021 - 05:39 AM)

Yes, Nightbeat and Siren would have been easy remolds of Chromedome - just give them new chests and each other's Titan Master heads. Fangry and Squeezeplay would be remolded from Twinferno with their own Titan Master heads. And Horri-Bull would have been remolded from Wolfwire.


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#41 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 29 2012, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He said that Humans reminded them o themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Hamas to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Nov 29 2012, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 29 2012, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He said that Humans reminded them o themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Hamas to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.

Me too.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

LOL! Great typo. Yeah, they could really be the best neutral third-party to guide the situation there to a peaceful resolution.

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QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and I forgot to add my biggest gripe about Enterprise - Vulcans. When I said I wanted Trek to explore them more, I did not want them to be portrayed as your stereotypical "holier-then-thou" arrogant High Elves - for all intents and purposes, that's what they were like in Enterprise. So much, that sometimes the writers forgot Vulcans are meant to be logical, not emotional, and had some antagonistic Vulcans be actively trying to discredit Earth or just being dicks with humans for no logical reason whatsoever.

They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then... icon-fire.gif I wonder how their logic deals with the whole "First I want to kill you, then if you defeat me I will congratulate you as a worthy opponent and invite you to drink bloodwine" mindset. icon-hotrod.gif


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QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTw, on that note... did the producers ever tell anyone WHO the mysterious shadowy time-lord-guy was supposed to be whom we have seen since Season 1?


Nope. I honestly don't think even they knew, lol. But wisely, the people who came in to work on Season 4 just ignored it once they'd used the Space Nazis to bring the Temporal Cold War to a close.


Your idea about the reason the ToS Klingons were so... different is quite nice. I liked the Enterprise explanation for the "no ridges" thing too. icon-hotrod.gif

So... I guess they were just "making it up as they went" with the Temporal War, much like on LOST?

And man, what's with ST and Space nazis? Is it, like a requirement that they have such episodes... Voyager had nazi Hirogens, ToS had nazi planets... I was quite disappointed Enterprise had it too. Guys, WWII was 60 years ago. Give it a rest already, nazis and soviets have been done to death in television as villains.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 30 2012, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL! Great typo. Yeah, they could really be the best neutral third-party to guide the situation there to a peaceful resolution.

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 30 2012, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and I forgot to add my biggest gripe about Enterprise - Vulcans. When I said I wanted Trek to explore them more, I did not want them to be portrayed as your stereotypical "holier-then-thou" arrogant High Elves - for all intents and purposes, that's what they were like in Enterprise. So much, that sometimes the writers forgot Vulcans are meant to be logical, not emotional, and had some antagonistic Vulcans be actively trying to discredit Earth or just being dicks with humans for no logical reason whatsoever.

They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then... icon-fire.gif I wonder how their logic deals with the whole "First I want to kill you, then if you defeat me I will congratulate you as a worthy opponent and invite you to drink bloodwine" mindset. icon-hotrod.gif

This was during Enterprise, so yeah they had already meat the Klingots. As for making "peace" with them I'm sure they had one of tow crews get killed before they sent some one who was pon farring and dealt with them.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:51 PM

If that blurb is trying to drop hints, and not just marketing lingo, then the baddie sounds like Garth of Izar.

It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.

Why?

Robert Orci
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.


i almost dont care what the next movie is about so long as he has a bigger role. he was the best and slid into it so well


QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People liked Seven not just because she was smokin' hot - but because she could ACT, and because her character was interesting and well-written.


i liked her too til she and the borg started getting shoved down our throats on a weekly basis. seems like every week itd be the seven of nine show. of course she was sleeping with one of the producers so that might explain why she got so much air time

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OH yes. He probably had a mind-meld with Kelly some time ago. icon-hotrod.gif Actually, that just increased my disappointment with "Trek Wars" - all the actors, even 'Sylar' were spot-on for the roles (well, except for Simon Pegg, whoever thought he'd be a good Scotty?) - it's just that the asinine writing made them either underused or gave them totally different personalities (no, I will not forgive emotional Spock...)


but...what about the original episodes where he got emotional?

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Nov 29 2012, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean, we have Bolians, Tholians, KardashianCardassians, Ferengi, More races than I would care to count starting with T, and the like. Trek doesn't need NEW races, it just needs to make use of the ones it has.


i dont think the ferengi would make good movie villians. mabye if they were re-invented as something other than the latinum lovers they got turned into maybe, but thats part of their charm

im all for cardassians. those guys can be nasty

QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Nov 29 2012, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Voyager had nazi Hirogens


i actually kinda liked the hirogen

Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:32 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:27 AM

Yes, Voyager completely neutered the Borg via over-exposure. And the Q. Two crimes I can never forgive that series for. But at least the book series revived the Borg as a genuine threat, and brought their arc to a satisfying close.

Recent novels have proven the Tholians and Breen can make great antagonists for the Federation, and provide for a much-needed break from Romulans or Klingons as the go-to villains of the week. And although I'd never heard of them before some of these books, the Tzenkethi also seem to be huge pains in the ass. Even the Gorn could be interesting (and different from the norm) villains, provided the setting is the 23rd century as they were apparently on better terms with the Federation during the 24th.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:44 AM

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Yes, Voyager completely neutered the Borg via over-exposure. And the Q. Two crimes I can never forgive that series for. But at least the book series revived the Borg as a genuine threat, and brought their arc to a satisfying close.


im still trying to figure if taking us (the viewers) into the contiuum was a good idea. sure it gave us a good episode (death wish i think it was?), but q lost some of his charm then. sure, we KNEW they were there, but actually seeing more of them? not so good. expect for suzi plakson icon-silverbolt.gif

q was great when he was the condescending a$$ that pestered picard and sucked as the love-struck for janeway. i attribute that to delancie and mulgrew being good friends before voyager started

plus its voyager so...lol

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And although I'd never heard of them before some of these books, the Tzenkethi also seem to be huge pains in the ass.


they were mentioned in a ds9 episode. cant remember which one right off (have you noticed im rather terrible with episode names? lol), but it was the one where sisko finally became a captain and odo kills a changling. in the ep, they were very concerned about a war with them starting. well, theyre worried about ANY war starting lol but things seemed more tense with them (i also think they said the federation had ALREADY been in a war with them at some point)

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Breen


oh yeah. in ds9 they came up with that weapon that was able to shut down federation vessels didnt they? wonder if they ever figured out how they did that? been wantin to watch ds9 again anyway...

Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:47 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:35 AM

The biggest problem with Voyager is something SF Debris touches upon in his reviews all the time: Janeway refuses to compromise her principles in order to get this ship full of people she is responsible for home. Three separate encounters with Q and never once did Janeway ask if Q would oblige them by taking them home. Heck, she flat out refused a return ticket home because she woudn't touch glowy fingers with Q.

Then again, Voyager never was any worse for wear after an episode, even when it was attacking Borg Unimatrix Complexes. In the real world, the sheer amount of damage Voyager sustained in its first two seasons (To say nothing of it's poorly realized "organic" Computer system) would have rendered it a useless hulk. It's a good thing they made those twenty plus Photon Torpedoes, Five Shuttles, and Fifteen replacement Gel Packs last seven years and countless light years to get home.

Plus, you know, despite being on "Replicator Rations" there was always plenty of power for the Holodeck.


Voyager could have been a really good show if any kind of care had gone into it.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:12 AM

Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

So Khan will go around dressed like Neo acting like Bane... swell...

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

Indeed. Karl's the best part of J.J. Trek. He's the only guy who actually does his best to do his stuff right.
Not even Quinto is anywhere near awesomeness of Karl. Quinto has the looks but rest... PFFFT! Can't even do Vulcan greeting, as if it's super-complicated gymnastics.

So yeah, Karl = Awesome.
And with Judge Dredd he continued to prove it. I'm not being sarcastic, he IS awesome.

As for Voyager... good God! That's a show that advocated suicide out of BOREDOM. Yeah. In their first Q episode they encounter a Q that wants to commit suicide simply because he's BORED. That is mindbogglingly idiotic. And then there's warp 10 episode... a pinnacle of moronic idiocy.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 3 2012, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!


Okay, that actually looks kind of fresh...for Star Trek.

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QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 4 2012, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Star Trek: The Dark Knight!



I wonder if that skyscraper on the right means that some of it will be set in London, or if it's just supposed to be a generic skyline of random space-age buildings. It sometimes seems like the only big modern city in Federation-era Earth is San Francisco.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Nov 30 2012, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that blurb is trying to drop hints, and not just marketing lingo, then the baddie sounds like Garth of Izar.

It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.

Why?

Robert Orci
Gary Kurtzman

and...

DAMON LINDELOF

The unholy trinity of hollywood writers. Thrown in Abrams ADD, and this one may not coast on the charm of the cast (and I like 2009 trek).


Those guys pretty much guarantee it won't be a character-drive story.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

It will be a contrivance-driven story, starring lens-flare.

Also Batman, apparently.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 3 2012, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!


Wow, I must be losing it. It took me two days to notice the shape of the hole in the building. Great layout work there.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Nothing says "Sci-fi" like aping a Batman poster and putting your lead in a trenchcoat for no reason.

Sad, sad, sad....

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

I dig the poster

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

From the poster, I thought maybe we were getting a Matrix reboot.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Trench coats are so played out now. I may go donate my duster to some one...



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