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@  Bass X0 : (20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM)

SEND THE BOOKS!!

@  Cybersnark : (20 May 2019 - 08:52 AM)

So, now that Game of Thrones is over, when can we get back to The Dragon Prince?

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:19 AM)

Like, half of them nowadays are montages of tweet screencaps from the writer's inbox

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:18 AM)

lol you expected integrity from internet news

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:33 PM)

I'm mostly confused how news sites went from "Analysing all the amazingness of Game of Thrones" to "Fans sure don't like this season!", like... way to prioritize clicks over a solid editorial opinion

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:30 PM)

[and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site"] is this like the Toei Quarry?

@  MEDdMI : (19 May 2019 - 11:17 PM)

@Foffy and then that giant lasagna just tipped over and killed everyone, to be later known as the infamous Bad Monday event.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

Ahahaha!!! Go read the reactions for yourself. To say anything more here risks spoiling the finale for subscribing Allsparkers, the quality of this season notwithstanding.

@  Foffy : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

pretty wild how heathcliff was in the game of thrones finale, i was not expecting that crossover

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

were they still super pissed?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

Well, as someone who is not into Game of Thrones, it sure was entertaining to open up social media this evening to unexpectedly see headlines about fan reactions to the finale. Lmao.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:12 PM)

But it's also a SUPER-well known location in my region, so these extensive exterior shots without any post production alterations completely ruin the illusion for me.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:11 PM)

I mean, I get why they did it: It's an existing location that fits the purpose, it's open for the public, and they had to shoot some scenes in my home state anyway to due a subsidizing deal.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Needless to say, it's not in Berlin, and even what's seen onscreen is waaaaay too modern for something that's supposed to exist in 1929 (even moreso as a derelict site in 1929). The structures seen haven't even been built until the 1960s!

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM)

I'm currently in the process of watching season 2 of Babylon Berlin, and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site" or whatever it's supposed to be on the show, and I easily recognize it as a place only a few minutes from where I live (it's actually a former ironworks site that's been turned into a public park).

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Ever since I went to Japan last year, I have friend who dread watching anime with me due to that...

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Not hugely, but I am the type to notice places once I have been there and say "Hey, I've been there!"

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

Half of new york city (on tape.) is actually montreal.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

I watched Death Wish 5 last night and clearly recognized Toronto streets; didn't pull me out of Bronson's 1-man war on drugs or fashion or whatever it was that pissed him off that time

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:49 PM)

it's nice to finally be thought of as exotic by somebody! lol

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:48 PM)

In an "I cannot possibly make my brain ignore the location I'm familiar with and pretend it's whatever the story claims it is" way?

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:42 PM)

Question for those of you living in exotic locations such as the US or the UK: If you watch a movie or a TV show that features a real-life location as a stand-in for someplace else, and you recognize the real-life location due to having been there in person, does that pull you out of the story?

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:15 PM)

Maybe you should have installed macOS in your house instead.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 May 2019 - 04:40 PM)

Nothing like coming home after a long day to find a bird in the house. And then once you sit down for a well-earned rest after leading the bird back outside, you find it had a friend. A friend who *really* doesn't understand how windows work...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.

@  Trpodeca : (17 May 2019 - 11:09 PM)

I voted. Boy there are a worrying amount of parties which sound like fascists.

@  Pennpenn : (17 May 2019 - 06:55 PM)

For those in Australia, it is a federal election today. Go Vote! It's Mandatory!

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2019 - 04:19 PM)

Humor? I 'ardly know 'or!

@  wonko the sane? : (17 May 2019 - 03:51 PM)

I was intemately familiar with humour... but she just wanted to be friends...

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 May 2019 - 12:10 PM)

BZT Time out! Time out! Time ooooooouuuuuut!!!

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 08:23 AM)

Yes. Are you familiar with humor?

@  Sabrblade : (17 May 2019 - 07:50 AM)

You are familiar with The Room, yes?

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 01:14 AM)

nah, tuxedos are formal wear

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 10:38 PM)

*...while dressed in a tuxedo*


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#41 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 29 2012, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He said that Humans reminded them o themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Hamas to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Nov 29 2012, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 29 2012, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He said that Humans reminded them o themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Hamas to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


I wish the situation over there had more Vulcan involvement.

Me too.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:40 AM

LOL! Great typo. Yeah, they could really be the best neutral third-party to guide the situation there to a peaceful resolution.

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 30 2012, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and I forgot to add my biggest gripe about Enterprise - Vulcans. When I said I wanted Trek to explore them more, I did not want them to be portrayed as your stereotypical "holier-then-thou" arrogant High Elves - for all intents and purposes, that's what they were like in Enterprise. So much, that sometimes the writers forgot Vulcans are meant to be logical, not emotional, and had some antagonistic Vulcans be actively trying to discredit Earth or just being dicks with humans for no logical reason whatsoever.

They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then... icon-fire.gif I wonder how their logic deals with the whole "First I want to kill you, then if you defeat me I will congratulate you as a worthy opponent and invite you to drink bloodwine" mindset. icon-hotrod.gif


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QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTw, on that note... did the producers ever tell anyone WHO the mysterious shadowy time-lord-guy was supposed to be whom we have seen since Season 1?


Nope. I honestly don't think even they knew, lol. But wisely, the people who came in to work on Season 4 just ignored it once they'd used the Space Nazis to bring the Temporal Cold War to a close.


Your idea about the reason the ToS Klingons were so... different is quite nice. I liked the Enterprise explanation for the "no ridges" thing too. icon-hotrod.gif

So... I guess they were just "making it up as they went" with the Temporal War, much like on LOST?

And man, what's with ST and Space nazis? Is it, like a requirement that they have such episodes... Voyager had nazi Hirogens, ToS had nazi planets... I was quite disappointed Enterprise had it too. Guys, WWII was 60 years ago. Give it a rest already, nazis and soviets have been done to death in television as villains.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 30 November 2012 - 10:49 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:26 PM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 30 2012, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL! Great typo. Yeah, they could really be the best neutral third-party to guide the situation there to a peaceful resolution.

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 30 2012, 01:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh and I forgot to add my biggest gripe about Enterprise - Vulcans. When I said I wanted Trek to explore them more, I did not want them to be portrayed as your stereotypical "holier-then-thou" arrogant High Elves - for all intents and purposes, that's what they were like in Enterprise. So much, that sometimes the writers forgot Vulcans are meant to be logical, not emotional, and had some antagonistic Vulcans be actively trying to discredit Earth or just being dicks with humans for no logical reason whatsoever.

They kinda of explained that. One Vulcan said to Archer that other races were so single minded that they were easy to deal with, but Humans were so all over the place with their motivation that it almost scared them. He said that Humans reminded them of themselves. I recall he gave the impression that Vulacns wanted to guide Humans to the same path of "logic and reason" that they had found with with out all the troubles they went through.


Really? I guess Vulcans never met the Klingons at this point, then... icon-fire.gif I wonder how their logic deals with the whole "First I want to kill you, then if you defeat me I will congratulate you as a worthy opponent and invite you to drink bloodwine" mindset. icon-hotrod.gif

This was during Enterprise, so yeah they had already meat the Klingots. As for making "peace" with them I'm sure they had one of tow crews get killed before they sent some one who was pon farring and dealt with them.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:51 PM

If that blurb is trying to drop hints, and not just marketing lingo, then the baddie sounds like Garth of Izar.

It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.

Why?

Robert Orci
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DAMON LINDELOF

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:14 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.


i almost dont care what the next movie is about so long as he has a bigger role. he was the best and slid into it so well


QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 29 2012, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People liked Seven not just because she was smokin' hot - but because she could ACT, and because her character was interesting and well-written.


i liked her too til she and the borg started getting shoved down our throats on a weekly basis. seems like every week itd be the seven of nine show. of course she was sleeping with one of the producers so that might explain why she got so much air time

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OH yes. He probably had a mind-meld with Kelly some time ago. icon-hotrod.gif Actually, that just increased my disappointment with "Trek Wars" - all the actors, even 'Sylar' were spot-on for the roles (well, except for Simon Pegg, whoever thought he'd be a good Scotty?) - it's just that the asinine writing made them either underused or gave them totally different personalities (no, I will not forgive emotional Spock...)


but...what about the original episodes where he got emotional?

QUOTE(The Doctor Who @ Nov 29 2012, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean, we have Bolians, Tholians, KardashianCardassians, Ferengi, More races than I would care to count starting with T, and the like. Trek doesn't need NEW races, it just needs to make use of the ones it has.


i dont think the ferengi would make good movie villians. mabye if they were re-invented as something other than the latinum lovers they got turned into maybe, but thats part of their charm

im all for cardassians. those guys can be nasty

QUOTE(TM2-Megatron @ Nov 29 2012, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Voyager had nazi Hirogens


i actually kinda liked the hirogen

Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:32 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:27 AM

Yes, Voyager completely neutered the Borg via over-exposure. And the Q. Two crimes I can never forgive that series for. But at least the book series revived the Borg as a genuine threat, and brought their arc to a satisfying close.

Recent novels have proven the Tholians and Breen can make great antagonists for the Federation, and provide for a much-needed break from Romulans or Klingons as the go-to villains of the week. And although I'd never heard of them before some of these books, the Tzenkethi also seem to be huge pains in the ass. Even the Gorn could be interesting (and different from the norm) villains, provided the setting is the 23rd century as they were apparently on better terms with the Federation during the 24th.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:44 AM

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Yes, Voyager completely neutered the Borg via over-exposure. And the Q. Two crimes I can never forgive that series for. But at least the book series revived the Borg as a genuine threat, and brought their arc to a satisfying close.


im still trying to figure if taking us (the viewers) into the contiuum was a good idea. sure it gave us a good episode (death wish i think it was?), but q lost some of his charm then. sure, we KNEW they were there, but actually seeing more of them? not so good. expect for suzi plakson icon-silverbolt.gif

q was great when he was the condescending a$$ that pestered picard and sucked as the love-struck for janeway. i attribute that to delancie and mulgrew being good friends before voyager started

plus its voyager so...lol

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And although I'd never heard of them before some of these books, the Tzenkethi also seem to be huge pains in the ass.


they were mentioned in a ds9 episode. cant remember which one right off (have you noticed im rather terrible with episode names? lol), but it was the one where sisko finally became a captain and odo kills a changling. in the ep, they were very concerned about a war with them starting. well, theyre worried about ANY war starting lol but things seemed more tense with them (i also think they said the federation had ALREADY been in a war with them at some point)

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Breen


oh yeah. in ds9 they came up with that weapon that was able to shut down federation vessels didnt they? wonder if they ever figured out how they did that? been wantin to watch ds9 again anyway...

Edited by Telly, 01 December 2012 - 04:47 AM.

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 07:35 AM

The biggest problem with Voyager is something SF Debris touches upon in his reviews all the time: Janeway refuses to compromise her principles in order to get this ship full of people she is responsible for home. Three separate encounters with Q and never once did Janeway ask if Q would oblige them by taking them home. Heck, she flat out refused a return ticket home because she woudn't touch glowy fingers with Q.

Then again, Voyager never was any worse for wear after an episode, even when it was attacking Borg Unimatrix Complexes. In the real world, the sheer amount of damage Voyager sustained in its first two seasons (To say nothing of it's poorly realized "organic" Computer system) would have rendered it a useless hulk. It's a good thing they made those twenty plus Photon Torpedoes, Five Shuttles, and Fifteen replacement Gel Packs last seven years and countless light years to get home.

Plus, you know, despite being on "Replicator Rations" there was always plenty of power for the Holodeck.


Voyager could have been a really good show if any kind of care had gone into it.
Don't fight it, it's coming for you, running at ya / It's only this moment, don't care what comes after
Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:12 AM

Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!
Don't fight it, it's coming for you, running at ya / It's only this moment, don't care what comes after
Your fever dream, can't you see it getting closer / Just surrender 'cause you feel the feeling taking over
It's fire, it's freedom, it's flooding open / It's a preacher in the pulpit and you'll find devotion
There's something breaking at the brick of every wall, it's holding All that you know
So tell me do you wanna go?

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

So Khan will go around dressed like Neo acting like Bane... swell...

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

Indeed. Karl's the best part of J.J. Trek. He's the only guy who actually does his best to do his stuff right.
Not even Quinto is anywhere near awesomeness of Karl. Quinto has the looks but rest... PFFFT! Can't even do Vulcan greeting, as if it's super-complicated gymnastics.

So yeah, Karl = Awesome.
And with Judge Dredd he continued to prove it. I'm not being sarcastic, he IS awesome.

As for Voyager... good God! That's a show that advocated suicide out of BOREDOM. Yeah. In their first Q episode they encounter a Q that wants to commit suicide simply because he's BORED. That is mindbogglingly idiotic. And then there's warp 10 episode... a pinnacle of moronic idiocy.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:49 AM

QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 3 2012, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!


Okay, that actually looks kind of fresh...for Star Trek.

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QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 4 2012, 01:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Star Trek: The Dark Knight!



I wonder if that skyscraper on the right means that some of it will be set in London, or if it's just supposed to be a generic skyline of random space-age buildings. It sometimes seems like the only big modern city in Federation-era Earth is San Francisco.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:11 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Nov 30 2012, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If that blurb is trying to drop hints, and not just marketing lingo, then the baddie sounds like Garth of Izar.

It probably will be Khan, and we will all be sad.

Why?

Robert Orci
Gary Kurtzman

and...

DAMON LINDELOF

The unholy trinity of hollywood writers. Thrown in Abrams ADD, and this one may not coast on the charm of the cast (and I like 2009 trek).


Those guys pretty much guarantee it won't be a character-drive story.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:38 PM

It will be a contrivance-driven story, starring lens-flare.

Also Batman, apparently.
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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:55 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Dec 3 2012, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, this won't do anything for Blud's blood pressure. icon-fire.gif



Star Trek: The Dark Knight!


Wow, I must be losing it. It took me two days to notice the shape of the hole in the building. Great layout work there.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:12 PM

Nothing says "Sci-fi" like aping a Batman poster and putting your lead in a trenchcoat for no reason.

Sad, sad, sad....

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:17 PM

I dig the poster

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:33 PM

From the poster, I thought maybe we were getting a Matrix reboot.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:53 PM

Trench coats are so played out now. I may go donate my duster to some one...



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