Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

It seems like, with these kind of things, anything not TF-specific is either in an existing thread or just not discussed since they're not part of something deemed important enough to get its own thread already.

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Yeah, but it's for Transformers specifically

@  Gryllid : (19 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

There is. It's called "SDCC 2019 thread"

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:24 PM)

no general SDCC thread?

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:08 PM)

I never even bothered to see it.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2019 - 10:30 AM)

O never hated it, the whole thing was an Indiana Jones movie. I didn't care for the CGI, but that's just nature of the beast.

@  Paladin : (19 July 2019 - 07:58 AM)

sidebar- has enough time passed that we can stop irrationally hating "Crystal Skull" yet?

@  Telly : (18 July 2019 - 09:18 PM)

after 38 years and i dont know how many viewings, today is the first time i noticed indiana jones doesnt use a revolver in the bar fight in raiders...

@  Kalidor : (18 July 2019 - 05:33 PM)

@Sabrblade Depends on when you're here. I used to have the backups happen once daily, now I have them happen once per hour so you might often see a hesitation at the top of every hour for 30-45 seconds.

@  Locoman : (18 July 2019 - 05:11 PM)

isn't that just Modern Family

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:45 PM)

that's right. my gym teacher is a clown. new series coming to disney channel next fall

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)

all these clowns are making me run really fast.

@  Sabrblade : (18 July 2019 - 12:10 PM)

All this awesome SDCC news is really making these boards run slowly.

@  Bass X0 : (18 July 2019 - 07:54 AM)

Racism must be stopped. No matter the cost.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2019 - 07:49 AM)

Tine to stop buttering it up.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 July 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Well shucks.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 July 2019 - 08:14 PM)

The joke is a husk of its former self.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 01:15 PM)

Pop.

@  Shrug : (17 July 2019 - 10:15 AM)

Something something... corn bread?

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2019 - 07:21 AM)

Ok, ok. Enough of the puns and let's all thank Kal for the amaizeing job he did.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 06:24 AM)

by now I think this jokes' been creamed.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

Who gives the orders in cybernetic warfare?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

@  Xellos : (16 July 2019 - 09:53 PM)

Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 05:17 AM)

I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.


Photo
- - - - -

Star Trek General Discussion


2859 replies to this topic

#2841 Shadewing

Shadewing

    Evil faces a Black Night

  • Supporter
  • 36185 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Nowhere.
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 05 June 2019 - 01:52 PM

Thats how i felt after getting through the whole series awhile back

Still some MASSIVE stinkers though

 

Exactly. Voyager isn't really as bad a people remember. Its certainly flawed and could be better in places, but its not the worst like people make it out to be... but yeah... unfortunately when the show IS bad... it is REALLY awful.

 

Still has a few of my favorite episodes though, like Bride of Chaotica.


3DS Friend Code: 0387-9040-3532

 

Twitch Channel

 

Youtube Replays

 

VOTE for what I play on 8/30!

 

Friday: Sonic Generations - Sunday: Transformers WFC - Tuesday: Little Inferno


#2842 HellCat

HellCat

    Opinionated idiot

  • Citizen
  • 28374 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 June 2019 - 11:45 PM

Voyager is dull. Brilliant series concept continuously undermined by being a reset heavy TNG rehash.

Episodes like In The Pale Moonlight should have been happening on Voyager. Likewise DS9's ensemble cast would make sense. Instead 99% of the crew are so disposable time traveller Janeway had no concern for them

#2843 ▲ndrusi

▲ndrusi

    Praise be to Stakeout.

  • Supporter
  • 26652 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:YES TOWN
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 06 June 2019 - 08:51 AM

Someday I'll figure out what it is about Voyager that leads people's opinions on it to be so exaggerated.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#2844 Mouse_Pad

Mouse_Pad

    It's a nice day for a...

  • Citizen
  • 9109 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Memphis, TN

Posted 07 June 2019 - 08:43 PM

I'm nearing the end of season 5 of Voyager.  I can generally forgive it for not being what it could have been and enjoy it for what it was.  It's generally very enjoyable.  There are some snoozers but not a lot of actively terrible episodes.  A lot of very average episodes and an occasional excellent one.

 

"Course: Oblivion" was one I saw a few days ago that was excellent.  It's a major bummer but in a good way.

 

"Think Tank" had Space Jason Alexander being a jerk.



#2845 Anonymous X

Anonymous X
  • Citizen
  • 3228 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK

Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:19 AM

Hey I liked both
 
Benged the final eps of TNG and started on DS9 everything about DS9 is so different
 
Right out of the gate we get to know these characters.
Siskos amonsity to Picard was so refreshing to see
Kira yelling and slamming the comms call end button
And the humor is more in play as well Sisko goading Quark into staying Odo "You know at first I didn't like him"
The banter of Sisko and Dax in the Runabout as its under duress
 
Lets do this

DS9 shits over TNG, frankly. Found TNG too dull to keep my interest other than in a handful of standout episodes. DS9 grabbed me (again) after just the pilot, which was to my pleasant surprise much better than I had remembered. And I kept going. Was so worth it. :)
QUOTE(Specimen-17 @ Feb 29 2012, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ultimately, collecting toys with gold plastic is like global thermonuclear war. The only way to win is not to play.


#2846 tec

tec

    My love to KyoAni

  • Supporter
  • 30579 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Walk'n towards it
  • Faction::Lesbian Ninja

Posted 08 June 2019 - 07:53 PM

Why is it the more I watch First Contact and Insurrection I find I like First Contact less and less and Insurrection more and more??


Visit my store! Vintage toys (SW/ST/TFs Collectables)

www.vintagenerdvana.com

Wait. Wait, wait, wait. Are you telling me that tec has a job? I thought his sole reasons for existence are cheesecake and horrible grammar.-Shadowman024

 


#2847 TM2-Megatron

TM2-Megatron
  • Supporter
  • 10614 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto, Canada
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 08 June 2019 - 08:18 PM

My appreciation of First Contact has also declined over the years, but Insurrection's never appealed to me much. Any of the television 2-parters feature better stories than Insurrection, and neither the Federation's nor Picard's actions in the film make much sense.

 

I'll take any of the first 6 films over any of the ones that came after.


Edited by TM2-Megatron, 08 June 2019 - 08:19 PM.


#2848 Kalidor

Kalidor

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • Owner
  • 59921 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:49 PM

I'm probably one of the few people who like anything that Star Trek has put out. It's also the only thing I can think of that I truly do feel that way about. Every single series and movie has an appeal that makes me like it. I guess if I hate to rate my least favorite Trek material it would be the Kelvin Timeline reboot movies - although I really liked the last one.

 

I can sit down and watch anything Star Trek put in front of me with zero complaints. Questions and critique maybe.. but I'm never unhappy about what I'm watching. *Especially* in retrospect after it's been a while since I've seen it. 



#2849 HellCat

HellCat

    Opinionated idiot

  • Citizen
  • 28374 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 09 June 2019 - 10:43 AM

Here's how it works for me.

 

TOS- Can excuse for the era it was created in and laying the groundwork. Does some great swashbuckling space adventures/morality plays.

 

TNG- Starts out dull but continues the morality plays and excels when it really starts developing the characters and their relationships with one another. Data for instance is arguably a cliche character but is defined by how his quest to be more 'human' results in a likeable, dependable individual.

 

DS9- Explores what happens when the Federation faces threats both internal and external. Addresses issues of redundancy by giving us a setting where non-Federation races are part of the main cast and has a bit more daring as a result.

 

VOY- Has a brilliant concept that it absolutely fails to explore. Everything I find boring about TNG is on display here with essentially none of the strengths that made that show work. It's a ship out by itself but never really having to make tough choices or feeling like it's under pressure and as it goes on digs in hard to TNG fanservice to keep viewers.

 

ENT- Carries over a lot of Voyager's problems but redeems itself somewhat latter when it starts exploring what laying the foundation for the Federation actually means, especially for a humanity that has just crawled out of self inflicted nuclear war and isn't the big deal they are by Kirk and Picard's times.

 

BEY- Haven't watched.



#2850 The Predaking

The Predaking

    Finally! A new Predaking is here!

  • Staff
  • 38877 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere with Netflix
  • Faction::Predacon

Posted 09 June 2019 - 04:39 PM

So, somewhat related to Star Trek, I was watching this week's episode of Elementary, and who do I see in the second scene talking to Sherlock Holmes? It is Daniel Davis himself! The absolute best Moriarty ever from TNG. 

 

https://en.wikipedia...vis#Filmography

 

 

Just thought that I would share that. 

 

I am still watching Voyager, I just got through the episode where they get stuck inside the singularity and see a mirror of themselves while Janeway gets to know Torres. Now I am on the time traveling Paris episode.


Restoring an Old Arcade Machine!

 

http://www.allspark....ade-game/page-2

 

 


#2851 ▲ndrusi

▲ndrusi

    Praise be to Stakeout.

  • Supporter
  • 26652 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:YES TOWN
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:00 AM

Why is it the more I watch First Contact and Insurrection I find I like First Contact less and less and Insurrection more and more??

Can't explain First Contact, but clearly as you get older the idea of a fountain of youth planet becomes more appealing to you.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#2852 Cybersnark

Cybersnark

    Sorry I'm late. Had to get my powersuit.

  • Citizen
  • 11158 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toronto, Ontario, Canada
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:50 AM

I mean, Insurrection has always been mainly criticized for just being "a movie-sized episode", which . . . isn't actually a bad thing (especially now that Star Trek has been off the air long enough for us to miss it).

#2853 The Predaking

The Predaking

    Finally! A new Predaking is here!

  • Staff
  • 38877 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Somewhere with Netflix
  • Faction::Predacon

Posted 10 June 2019 - 01:27 PM

Insurrection had to follow up the smash hit First Contact, and it wasn't really on the same scale. There was no threat to the entire Federation. No larger than life enemy to fight. Just some old guys trying to take back their old world and Data singing.


Restoring an Old Arcade Machine!

 

http://www.allspark....ade-game/page-2

 

 


#2854 ▲ndrusi

▲ndrusi

    Praise be to Stakeout.

  • Supporter
  • 26652 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:YES TOWN
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 10 June 2019 - 01:51 PM

Be fair. Picard and Worf sang, too.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Sep 9 2012, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#2855 LiamA

LiamA
  • Citizen
  • 3141 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Charleston, SC
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 10 June 2019 - 02:56 PM

Something interesting to read. It is an oral history of Star Trek. It is two volumes. This volume shows that burnout was creeping into Voyager and Enterprise.

 

9781250089465_p0_v4_s600x595.jpg



#2856 Benbot

Benbot

    What a nerd

  • Supporter
  • 5134 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Never Past Bedtime Land

Posted 10 June 2019 - 03:28 PM

If it's oral history, why is it a book?



#2857 LiamA

LiamA
  • Citizen
  • 3141 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Charleston, SC
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 10 June 2019 - 07:01 PM

If it's oral history, why is it a book?

 

I'm sure there is an audio version of it.



#2858 Telly

Telly

    Killing forums since 1999!

  • Retired Staff
  • 7936 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Indiana
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 10 June 2019 - 08:39 PM

I wonder if keevan is still walking into that bulkhead on empok nor...
When I die I will surely go to Heaven for i spent my life in Hell

#2859 Agent X

Agent X

    These Ponies are holding on my heart like a handgrenade.

  • Citizen
  • 2399 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Clarksville TN
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:26 AM

In regards to "Insurrection", it would've gone over better in a vacuum- like the original movies were. However, it had to share cultural relevance, and contunity, with 2 other ONGOING series. Which really soured with Trek fans since they were most likely following DS9 and with it's current situation: Worf just lost his wife and the Federation is barley holding on in a brutal, but hey lets go to a paradise planet and get our Captain laid and talk about BOOBS!

 

And as much as I like the battle in the Brier Patch, it's no battle of Sector 001. 


Edited by Agent X, 14 June 2019 - 10:27 AM.

"Some people collect other characters like Jazz or Hot Shot and its encouraged, but I stockpile Cybertron Crosswises and that makes ME the strange one."

#2860 Mouse_Pad

Mouse_Pad

    It's a nice day for a...

  • Citizen
  • 9109 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Memphis, TN

Posted 14 June 2019 - 10:39 PM

Something interesting to read. It is an oral history of Star Trek. It is two volumes. This volume shows that burnout was creeping into Voyager and Enterprise.

 

9781250089465_p0_v4_s600x595.jpg

 

I read both volumes.  It's pretty enjoyable.  I'm not going to heap praise on it, but I learned a few things.

 

I really liked Insurrection at the time.  Its flaws have magnified for me over time.  It's a fine story, but probably not worthy of a feature film.

 

I relate to what Kal said.  I enjoy pretty much any Star Trek on some level.  Some really stretch it.





Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users