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@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity


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#2581 Rust

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 08:27 AM

Admiral Riker is easy, 'cause that's a logical step for his career.

 

Not really. You turn down an executive position that many times, eventually the organization offering the job will accept you don't feel comfortable in the big chair and stop offering.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 08:57 AM

Starfleet constantly gives second chances for its top guys. Even without a ship, they would be infatuated with Riker.

Still don't know why they insist on having Star Trek be app only. Get over over it, CBS.
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 10:28 AM

So, the rumors were true; Patrick Stewart will be returning to Star Trek in a new CBS All-Access series that's going to tell the story of the next chapter of Jean-Luc Picard's life.

 

Not so excited about Kurtzman being involved... but certainly worth a look.

 

http://www.startrek....nic-picard-role

This is seriously the best Star Trek news that I have hear in a long time! 


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:11 AM

Okay yeah, not going to lie...I'm excited.

 

 

As for being on CBS All Access...gives me more justification to sign up for it, as opposed to just check out Discovery.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 12:10 PM

Starfleet constantly gives second chances for its top guys. Even without a ship, they would be infatuated with Riker.

Still don't know why they insist on having Star Trek be app only. Get over over it, CBS.

I imagine the only reason this series is going to exist is because they really want to establish CBS All Access. My worry is that they'll decide Star Trek is a failure to be abandoned if the app doesn't succeed. That's not enough to get me to give in and pay for it though, despite how much I would like to see what they do with the series.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 12:53 PM

Have CBS/Paramount ever cared about the Star Trek novels?

 

I hope they give us a Rian Johnsonized Picard.

 

Typically not, but for pretty much all of the TNG/DS9/VOY run there was no concerted effort to have any kind of continuity between them, nor was the writing quality particularly good aside from the odd one here and there. A number of years ago there was a kind of mass reboot of the novels and a number of different writers all worked together to tell post-Nemesis stories involving both new characters and existing characters. The Destiny trilogy satisfactorily (I thought) wrapped up the Borg and was a great crossover spanning Enterpirse to VOY (not every character, nor even every ship, but it takes place throughout that entire span of time), and ultimately a new political pact opposing the Federation emerges once they successfully work out the kinks in Slipstream Warp and began using it on select vessels.

 

There are actually some surprisingly good stories in the new series of novels... the aforementioned Destiny trilogy (it would make a fantastic 6-8 hour miniseries)... and Persistence of Memory is another standout (it begins back during TNG's "Brothers" episode and goes in some very interesting directions to get to the present, post-Nemesis time). IMO, in the years between the end of the old Prime Universe Trek TV and the start of Discovery, the "Pocketverse" has been the only source of stories that capture both the feel and spirit of the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era. Star Trek Online is a little too fanwanky and silly in some of the things it's done, whereas most of the books feel as if you could take them and construct pretty solid episodes or miniseries out of the ideas.


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:19 PM

In my mind, Picard took Kirk's "don't let them transfer you, don't let them promote you" advice to heart, and remained captain of the Enterprise until the day he died.


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:40 PM

The problem there is Kirk and Picard are two wildly different people with difference life experiences and expectations. That advice never really rang true because Picard was nothing like Kirk.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 02:59 PM

In my mind, Picard took Kirk's "don't let them transfer you, don't let them promote you" advice to heart, and remained captain of the Enterprise until the day he died.

 

Have you read any of the post-Nemesis novels from Pocket? Picard certainly takes that ideal to heart in that take on Trek.

 

I am saddened that most likely this TV series will override the (non-canon) novel continuity because mainstream marketing always overrides niche tie-ins.


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Posted 05 August 2018 - 03:24 PM

It's Front Paged too!
 
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Posted 05 August 2018 - 04:28 PM

In this case, I think we can look to one of the things that Discovery did right (IMHO), which was to have close involvement with novel writers from the beginning.

As noted, Kirsten Beyer is a novel writer herself (she's pretty much taken over the Voyager relaunch post "Full Circle"), and she's been serving as a liaison between the Discovery writers' room and the TrekLit writers, allowing the Discovery novels to fill in canonical backstory (all the DSC novels so far are prequels, involving Burnham, Lorca & Georgiou, Saru, and soon Tilly).

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Posted 05 August 2018 - 10:17 PM

I turned off Nemesis a third of the way through, so maybe I'll get to see Picard in one last thing I don't hate. Although ignoring the films and having the series is plenty for me truth be told.

 

Definitely curious to see what they came up with to reignite his interest.



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Posted 05 August 2018 - 11:42 PM

I wonder what kind of tea he drinks now.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:17 AM

Lipton's iced tea, of course.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 07:35 AM

The problem there is Kirk and Picard are two wildly different people with difference life experiences and expectations. That advice never really rang true because Picard was nothing like Kirk.


I'd argue in his younger days Picard was very much like kirk, but being stabbed through the heart at said young age tends to give a man...perspective.
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Posted 06 August 2018 - 10:08 AM

There are actually some surprisingly good stories in the new series of novels... the aforementioned Destiny trilogy (it would make a fantastic 6-8 hour miniseries)... and Persistence of Memory is another standout (it begins back during TNG's "Brothers" episode and goes in some very interesting directions to get to the present, post-Nemesis time). IMO, in the years between the end of the old Prime Universe Trek TV and the start of Discovery, the "Pocketverse" has been the only source of stories that capture both the feel and spirit of the TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era. Star Trek Online is a little too fanwanky and silly in some of the things it's done, whereas most of the books feel as if you could take them and construct pretty solid episodes or miniseries out of the ideas.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I won't shed a tear to see the Online continuity invalidated, but I've been happy to consider the Pocketverse post-Nemesis as the "true" continuation of the lives of those characters, and it'll be a loss to see that contradicted.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 11:57 AM

I don't see the Online stuff being totally invalidated - the Odyssey class and Enterprise F contest was run by CBS itself, and as I recall there was some sort of reference to it outside STO also.  The upcoming content is supposed to somehow tie directly into Discovery, and the tone of the announcement suggests it'll be the same going forward, though I don't know how they'll do it without more time travel. That does make it sound like they're working closer with CBS these days however.  It may end up being a case of all the broad strokes are there, but the individual events(and Admiral You) don't exist or will differ in the details.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 12:12 PM

I don't see the Online stuff being totally invalidated - the Odyssey class and Enterprise F contest was run by CBS itself, and as I recall there was some sort of reference to it outside STO also.  The upcoming content is supposed to somehow tie directly into Discovery, and the tone of the announcement suggests it'll be the same going forward, though I don't know how they'll do it without more time travel. That does make it sound like they're working closer with CBS these days however.  It may end up being a case of all the broad strokes are there, but the individual events(and Admiral You) don't exist or will differ in the details.

 

Most everything here could be said of the Pocketverse, too (Simon & Schuster is a subsidiary of CBS Corporation). Utimately, either both will be ignored (most likely), or some elements of one or both will be, as the Online universe and the Pocketverse are mutually exclusive.



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Posted 06 August 2018 - 01:56 PM

Well, the Pocketverse hasn't yet caught up to needing the Enterprise-F (for that matter, the Pocketverse hasn't yet caught up to the Hobus supernova in 2387 [the most recent novel is set in 2386]), so bringing it in would be easy.

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Posted 06 August 2018 - 03:04 PM

Well if they do end up showing the next Enterprise, let's hope someone competent designs it.  The STO version is probably the ugliest thing I've ever seen.  I don't know how that got chosen.





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