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Started by Rust, Nov 27 2012 04:54 AM

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#1 Rust

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Seriously, it's borderline Engrish.

What *might* be gleaned from it:

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When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization

Section 31 is a possibility here.

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has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for

*twitch*

Beyond being the kind of engrish I expect out of phishing e-mails, if this leads to another "the fleet is destroyed" sort of things I will be sorely disappointed. At the same time, it would explain why the Enterprise is always the only ship in the quadrant.

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leaving our world in a state of crisis.

It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe? You've got Faster Than Light travel...Sol could nova and Humanity should be scattered across countless worlds. The reason the Mass Effect series managed to do a "Earth in Peril" storyline is because that was one small battlefield across the entire galaxy and you got to see other home worlds being harvested.

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With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.

What the heck is a "War-zone world"? Are M Class Planets so cheap you can afford to turn it into a giant paintball court?

Also "one man weapon of mass destruction". Either he's chasing Goku, or this is some seriously flowery language on par with a high school fan fic. If the Section 31 idea above is correct, it's possible its a agent that has undergone genetic engineering - possibly even a full blown genetic superman specifically created by Section 31.

That or Benedict Cumberbatch is playing the Human Bomb.

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As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death,

I'm a fan of chess, but the real interesting games are never "epic".

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love will be challenged,

Aww. Uhura and Spock have a fight.

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friendships will be torn apart,

Aww. Kirk and McCoy have a disagreement.

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and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.

Kali Ma! Wait, no.

Though that along with Kirk having a "personal score to settle", seems to be pretty clear Kirk's mom dies in this one. Probably a victim of the Sand People.

So all I can glean from this really is they're going to be borrowing heavily the themes from the episode Obsession with Cumberbatch playing the part of the Blood Drinking Cloud Monster.

Edited by The Predaking, 05 August 2018 - 10:26 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:18 AM

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.

Well, Art is Art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now you tell me what you know.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 AM

Okay, Trek Into Darkness is kind of clever in a tacky sort of way.

Hope there's a larger fleet battle.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?

The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.

Edited by MrBlud, 27 November 2012 - 05:31 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

It is difficult to detonate a whole fleet. It could be done.

I have no idea how to detonate what they stand for. That would take a whole different bomb.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.

Agreed.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 27 2012, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.

While I do somewhat agree with you, Smitty (Can't let the movie get bogged down in its own premise, or you risk alienating the average moviegoer) I can't help but point out the most financially successful Trek movie was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The one that was about time travel and didn't have a main antagonist.

Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Nov 27 2012, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.

Agreed.

Yep, I think this basically confirms that rumor. And thank goodness it didn't turn out to be Kahn like earlier rumors said.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:48 AM

Yep. These movies are made by, and for, people who didn't like people for liking the Trek.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?

The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

Reading the description makes this Star Trek look more like a generic action movie with Kirk and co. name drops as garnish on an otherwise bland dish. And like most Abrahms projects, I really can't see this going anywhere but back to a reboot and a new universe where nothing that has happened matters.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

"But this is what Star Trek needs to be popular and successful!"

Oh well, I might as well be fair and reserve judgement till some more details come out, preferably not written by the marketing department's step son.

Hell, even if it is as vapid and dull as the previous movie, there's a chance at some more cool models of the new Enterprise (or some other of the Federation ships), so maybe some good will come of it.

Edited by The Doctor Who, 27 November 2012 - 11:29 AM.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.

Agreed, there was an actual character arc, and the motivations were consistent. Aside from the ST technical goofs, it was actually a well written movie, from a character and story point of view. Meyers is good at that.

Just my opinion, but for a ST movie to be successful you have to know who you are speaking to, Joe Six Pack or Timmy Trecker. Once you decide, you must stick to that.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

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I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.

Ya he just doesn't have the pause between mid sentences like Shatner

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

I shudder to think of how badly he'd mangle Rocket Man.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

I like the movie but I do agree Pine was the weakest link

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

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