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@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

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Steeeeeeeeve.

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LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

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Candleja-

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Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

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KHAAAAAAAN


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#1 Rust

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Seriously, it's borderline Engrish.

What *might* be gleaned from it:
 

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When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization


Section 31 is a possibility here.
 

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has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for


*twitch*

Beyond being the kind of engrish I expect out of phishing e-mails, if this leads to another "the fleet is destroyed" sort of things I will be sorely disappointed. At the same time, it would explain why the Enterprise is always the only ship in the quadrant.
 

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leaving our world in a state of crisis.


It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe? You've got Faster Than Light travel...Sol could nova and Humanity should be scattered across countless worlds. The reason the Mass Effect series managed to do a "Earth in Peril" storyline is because that was one small battlefield across the entire galaxy and you got to see other home worlds being harvested.
 

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With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.


What the heck is a "War-zone world"? Are M Class Planets so cheap you can afford to turn it into a giant paintball court?

Also "one man weapon of mass destruction". Either he's chasing Goku, or this is some seriously flowery language on par with a high school fan fic. If the Section 31 idea above is correct, it's possible its a agent that has undergone genetic engineering - possibly even a full blown genetic superman specifically created by Section 31.

That or Benedict Cumberbatch is playing the Human Bomb.
 

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As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death,


I'm a fan of chess, but the real interesting games are never "epic".
 

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love will be challenged,


Aww. Uhura and Spock have a fight.
 

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friendships will be torn apart,


Aww. Kirk and McCoy have a disagreement.
 

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and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.


Kali Ma! Wait, no.

Though that along with Kirk having a "personal score to settle", seems to be pretty clear Kirk's mom dies in this one. Probably a victim of the Sand People. icon-arcee.gif


So all I can glean from this really is they're going to be borrowing heavily the themes from the episode Obsession with Cumberbatch playing the part of the Blood Drinking Cloud Monster.


Edited by The Predaking, 05 August 2018 - 10:26 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:18 AM

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 AM

Okay, Trek Into Darkness is kind of clever in a tacky sort of way.

Hope there's a larger fleet battle.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

It is difficult to detonate a whole fleet. It could be done.

I have no idea how to detonate what they stand for. That would take a whole different bomb.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 27 2012, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.


While I do somewhat agree with you, Smitty (Can't let the movie get bogged down in its own premise, or you risk alienating the average moviegoer) I can't help but point out the most financially successful Trek movie was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The one that was about time travel and didn't have a main antagonist.

Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Nov 27 2012, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.



Yep, I think this basically confirms that rumor. And thank goodness it didn't turn out to be Kahn like earlier rumors said.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:48 AM

Yep. These movies are made by, and for, people who didn't like people for liking the Trek.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.



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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

Reading the description makes this Star Trek look more like a generic action movie with Kirk and co. name drops as garnish on an otherwise bland dish. And like most Abrahms projects, I really can't see this going anywhere but back to a reboot and a new universe where nothing that has happened matters.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

"But this is what Star Trek needs to be popular and successful!"

Oh well, I might as well be fair and reserve judgement till some more details come out, preferably not written by the marketing department's step son.

Hell, even if it is as vapid and dull as the previous movie, there's a chance at some more cool models of the new Enterprise (or some other of the Federation ships), so maybe some good will come of it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.


Agreed, there was an actual character arc, and the motivations were consistent. Aside from the ST technical goofs, it was actually a well written movie, from a character and story point of view. Meyers is good at that.

Just my opinion, but for a ST movie to be successful you have to know who you are speaking to, Joe Six Pack or Timmy Trecker. Once you decide, you must stick to that.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

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I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

I shudder to think of how badly he'd mangle Rocket Man.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

I like the movie but I do agree Pine was the weakest link

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.


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