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@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.


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#1 Rust

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Seriously, it's borderline Engrish.

What *might* be gleaned from it:
 

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When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization


Section 31 is a possibility here.
 

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has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for


*twitch*

Beyond being the kind of engrish I expect out of phishing e-mails, if this leads to another "the fleet is destroyed" sort of things I will be sorely disappointed. At the same time, it would explain why the Enterprise is always the only ship in the quadrant.
 

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leaving our world in a state of crisis.


It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe? You've got Faster Than Light travel...Sol could nova and Humanity should be scattered across countless worlds. The reason the Mass Effect series managed to do a "Earth in Peril" storyline is because that was one small battlefield across the entire galaxy and you got to see other home worlds being harvested.
 

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With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.


What the heck is a "War-zone world"? Are M Class Planets so cheap you can afford to turn it into a giant paintball court?

Also "one man weapon of mass destruction". Either he's chasing Goku, or this is some seriously flowery language on par with a high school fan fic. If the Section 31 idea above is correct, it's possible its a agent that has undergone genetic engineering - possibly even a full blown genetic superman specifically created by Section 31.

That or Benedict Cumberbatch is playing the Human Bomb.
 

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As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death,


I'm a fan of chess, but the real interesting games are never "epic".
 

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love will be challenged,


Aww. Uhura and Spock have a fight.
 

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friendships will be torn apart,


Aww. Kirk and McCoy have a disagreement.
 

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and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.


Kali Ma! Wait, no.

Though that along with Kirk having a "personal score to settle", seems to be pretty clear Kirk's mom dies in this one. Probably a victim of the Sand People. icon-arcee.gif


So all I can glean from this really is they're going to be borrowing heavily the themes from the episode Obsession with Cumberbatch playing the part of the Blood Drinking Cloud Monster.


Edited by The Predaking, 05 August 2018 - 10:26 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:18 AM

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 AM

Okay, Trek Into Darkness is kind of clever in a tacky sort of way.

Hope there's a larger fleet battle.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

It is difficult to detonate a whole fleet. It could be done.

I have no idea how to detonate what they stand for. That would take a whole different bomb.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 27 2012, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.


While I do somewhat agree with you, Smitty (Can't let the movie get bogged down in its own premise, or you risk alienating the average moviegoer) I can't help but point out the most financially successful Trek movie was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The one that was about time travel and didn't have a main antagonist.

Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Nov 27 2012, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.



Yep, I think this basically confirms that rumor. And thank goodness it didn't turn out to be Kahn like earlier rumors said.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:48 AM

Yep. These movies are made by, and for, people who didn't like people for liking the Trek.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.



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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

Reading the description makes this Star Trek look more like a generic action movie with Kirk and co. name drops as garnish on an otherwise bland dish. And like most Abrahms projects, I really can't see this going anywhere but back to a reboot and a new universe where nothing that has happened matters.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

"But this is what Star Trek needs to be popular and successful!"

Oh well, I might as well be fair and reserve judgement till some more details come out, preferably not written by the marketing department's step son.

Hell, even if it is as vapid and dull as the previous movie, there's a chance at some more cool models of the new Enterprise (or some other of the Federation ships), so maybe some good will come of it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.


Agreed, there was an actual character arc, and the motivations were consistent. Aside from the ST technical goofs, it was actually a well written movie, from a character and story point of view. Meyers is good at that.

Just my opinion, but for a ST movie to be successful you have to know who you are speaking to, Joe Six Pack or Timmy Trecker. Once you decide, you must stick to that.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

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I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.


Ya he just doesn't have the pause between mid sentences like Shatner icon-fire.gif

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

I shudder to think of how badly he'd mangle Rocket Man.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

I like the movie but I do agree Pine was the weakest link

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.


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