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I'd like a animated Dark Empire trilogy.

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Not just any girl - your mom!

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Happy Knocked-Up-A-Girl Day!

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Happy father's day!

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what up sluts?

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Only 6? Filthy casual.

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Multiplaying as in "playing with other people" or multiplaying as in "6 WoW accounts running at the same time"?

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Oh no! Darkeklaw is multiplaying! (See birthday box)

@  tigerhawk : (19 June 2021 - 11:54 AM)

In my Marvel comic canon the second wave of special teams were handpicked active robots whose experience would theoretically make more stable combiners, the Combaticons came from Cybertron, the Protectobots were imprinted from crystals explaining both Onslauhghts ancestry and First Aid's experience.

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Spotlight: Lioconvoy?

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How long until IDW puts out an Optimus Pride Month comic?

@  Cyoti : (18 June 2021 - 03:32 PM)

Even with B5, it didn't follow its original 5-year plan. Summaries from the supplementary materials for the scriptbooks demonstrates that was originally planned was very different from the actual product. Sinclair's actor's departure seemingly changed the show to the point that the stuff with the Vorlons/Shadows, the Minbari and the ending were all changed. Mapping out a show years in advance is difficult because of changing bts stuff like writers/actors leaving the show or suddenly having to retool because of ratings/execs. No plan survives intact especially in a chaotic environment of television production.

@  Rycochet : (18 June 2021 - 11:27 AM)

To be like Babylon 5, you need to cram a 2 season story arc into one because you fear being cancelled, then get further seasons you have no more material for. You also need a spinoff which the network heads don't want and do everything in their power to kill it while it's on air.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 June 2021 - 10:33 AM)

The required effort is probably why we don't have babylon 6; TNG.

@  Dekafox : (18 June 2021 - 10:23 AM)

Everyone wants to be like Babylon 5 but no one wants to put in the effort

@  Nevermore : (18 June 2021 - 09:36 AM)

And then, after five years of hosting their own official podcast where they would answer fan questions and always encouraged their audience to pay attention to the mysteries, after the show had ended, they claimed the show was never really about the mysteries, it was all about the characters.

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What really bugs me with "Lost" is that the producers had willfully negotiated a set end date with the network halfway through season 3 (the show ended with season 6, as planned) specifically so they could plan out the plot for the remainder of the show. Then... the plot wasn't resolved properly.

@  tigerhawk : (18 June 2021 - 04:17 AM)

By then I had lost interest in arc TV shows, I followed a few and got the impression they were just making them up as they went along. Seemed to be a trend starting with new Galactica and Lost though in actuality began with The X Files and has become a trope called 'The Chris Carter Effect'.

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I think it was season 3 part 1 specifically, since they had two separate plot "arcs" for season 3.

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They threw everything in there, with no clear story structure, no clear stakes, and characters flip-flopping wherever the episode's writer needed them to go for their half-baked plot.

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Season 3 was the worst, with a terrible meandering random events plot.

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'save the cheerleader' then in season 3 he tears her skull open, scans her power and she simply heals. They didn't think any of it through.

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Well, you know Hollywood; if something's popular, run it into the ground!

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And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

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Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

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It never truly recovered from that.

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Season 1 was good until the finale.

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because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

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The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

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That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

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Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

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I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

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Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

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I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

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Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

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I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

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You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

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Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

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Kewl. Thanks!

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It's all about that Bass XD.

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Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.


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#1 Rust

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:54 AM

Seriously, it's borderline Engrish.

What *might* be gleaned from it:
 

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When the crew of the Enterprise is called back home, they find an unstoppable force of terror from within their own organization


Section 31 is a possibility here.
 

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has detonated the fleet and everything it stands for


*twitch*

Beyond being the kind of engrish I expect out of phishing e-mails, if this leads to another "the fleet is destroyed" sort of things I will be sorely disappointed. At the same time, it would explain why the Enterprise is always the only ship in the quadrant.
 

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leaving our world in a state of crisis.


It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe? You've got Faster Than Light travel...Sol could nova and Humanity should be scattered across countless worlds. The reason the Mass Effect series managed to do a "Earth in Peril" storyline is because that was one small battlefield across the entire galaxy and you got to see other home worlds being harvested.
 

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With a personal score to settle, Captain Kirk leads a manhunt to a war-zone world to capture a one man weapon of mass destruction.


What the heck is a "War-zone world"? Are M Class Planets so cheap you can afford to turn it into a giant paintball court?

Also "one man weapon of mass destruction". Either he's chasing Goku, or this is some seriously flowery language on par with a high school fan fic. If the Section 31 idea above is correct, it's possible its a agent that has undergone genetic engineering - possibly even a full blown genetic superman specifically created by Section 31.

That or Benedict Cumberbatch is playing the Human Bomb.
 

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As our heroes are propelled into an epic chess game of life and death,


I'm a fan of chess, but the real interesting games are never "epic".
 

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love will be challenged,


Aww. Uhura and Spock have a fight.
 

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friendships will be torn apart,


Aww. Kirk and McCoy have a disagreement.
 

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and sacrifices must be made for the only family Kirk has left: his crew.


Kali Ma! Wait, no.

Though that along with Kirk having a "personal score to settle", seems to be pretty clear Kirk's mom dies in this one. Probably a victim of the Sand People. icon-arcee.gif


So all I can glean from this really is they're going to be borrowing heavily the themes from the episode Obsession with Cumberbatch playing the part of the Blood Drinking Cloud Monster.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:18 AM

I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:20 AM

Okay, Trek Into Darkness is kind of clever in a tacky sort of way.

Hope there's a larger fleet battle.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:30 AM

It is difficult to detonate a whole fleet. It could be done.

I have no idea how to detonate what they stand for. That would take a whole different bomb.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

QUOTE(Smitty @ Nov 27 2012, 05:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

It does if they want "Joe Sixpack" to go see and not just "Tim Trekgeek" thus allowing them to make more money.


While I do somewhat agree with you, Smitty (Can't let the movie get bogged down in its own premise, or you risk alienating the average moviegoer) I can't help but point out the most financially successful Trek movie was Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The one that was about time travel and didn't have a main antagonist.

Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:09 AM

QUOTE(Shattered @ Nov 27 2012, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Sir Throcken @ Nov 27 2012, 05:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll be surprised if it's not Gary Mitchell.


Agreed.



Yep, I think this basically confirms that rumor. And thank goodness it didn't turn out to be Kahn like earlier rumors said.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 08:48 AM

Yep. These movies are made by, and for, people who didn't like people for liking the Trek.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Nov 27 2012, 05:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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It didn't work in the Xindi Arc, it's not going to work here. When are writers going to realize Earth should not be the center of the Star Trek universe?


The same time they figure out Star Trek doesn't need to be an action movie.

So.....never.

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My petulant bitching aside, as they've gone on record saying it's not Gary Mitchell; odds are it's this Universe's version of Charlie "X" Evans.



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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:36 AM

Reading the description makes this Star Trek look more like a generic action movie with Kirk and co. name drops as garnish on an otherwise bland dish. And like most Abrahms projects, I really can't see this going anywhere but back to a reboot and a new universe where nothing that has happened matters.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 11:28 AM

"But this is what Star Trek needs to be popular and successful!"

Oh well, I might as well be fair and reserve judgement till some more details come out, preferably not written by the marketing department's step son.

Hell, even if it is as vapid and dull as the previous movie, there's a chance at some more cool models of the new Enterprise (or some other of the Federation ships), so maybe some good will come of it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 27 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I wish they'd find the balance they had back in Star Trek VI. A action-thriller for the general movie crowd, but with enough character moments and in-depth look at the universe to sate the fan's appetite for geekitude. For myself personally, Star Trek VI is when the movie franchise peaked.


Agreed, there was an actual character arc, and the motivations were consistent. Aside from the ST technical goofs, it was actually a well written movie, from a character and story point of view. Meyers is good at that.

Just my opinion, but for a ST movie to be successful you have to know who you are speaking to, Joe Six Pack or Timmy Trecker. Once you decide, you must stick to that.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

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I still can't accept Chris Pine as Captain Kirk. Just can't do it.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:46 PM

I shudder to think of how badly he'd mangle Rocket Man.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

I like the movie but I do agree Pine was the weakest link

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:13 PM

Odd, I thought Pine was fantastic as Kirk.

Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

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Though hands down, the best of the best has to be Karl Urban. I don't know what dark ritual he enacted to do it, but the man was channeling DeForest Kelly so well it got spooky.


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