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@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 November 2019 - 02:59 AM)

Funny, but everyone knows he bounty hunts for Jabba Hutt to finance his 'Vette.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 November 2019 - 02:54 AM)

Okay.. Not sure why.. but streaming is harder than jsut playing the game.. even though that's pretty much what I was doing.

@  Xellos : (14 November 2019 - 06:47 PM)

What type of vehicle does Boba Fett use for time travel? A Man-DeLorean.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Admittedly, it's been a long time since I've been to a walk-in clinic, as I tend not to get sick (and the one time I do every 4-5 years, I prefer just riding it out at home), but the last time I went I'm pretty sure you could just show up, no appointment. It may be different in Quebec,though

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:36 PM)

One thing to note about health insurance in Germany is that we have a two-class system: mandatory health insurance is basically the economy class, while private health insurance is the business class.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:32 PM)

My local doctor is actually a shared office with several doctors where you will get randomly assigned to one of the doctors available that day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:30 PM)

Also, employers are required by law to cover part of their employees' health insurance fees, so I only have to pay my part.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 02:28 PM)

Basic examinations and sick notes (known as "work-inability certificates" in Germany) for the employer are covered by our health insurances by default.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 November 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Around here, we can go to a walk-in clinic whenever, but might have to wait in the queue until there's a doctor available, which can take hours on a busy day. And then hope our insurance will cover anything.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:54 AM

My rekindled love of Star Wars happened the day I bought Shadows of the Empire for the N64


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 10:58 AM

 

Apparently there were no SW toys from 1986-94? I had never heard that.

 
its true. once the first power of the force ended that was it (wait. when were the ewoks and droids toys out? anyway...). i think it was pretty much considered a dead toy franchise until the orange card series kicked off and everyone lost their shit over them (me included). they hit at just the right time, when people who had grown up with the original toys were entering the work force and could buy what they wanted now
 
I was so dissappointed they didn't cover the Orange Card stuff, and acted like the relaunch began with Phantom Menace. It was an important moment in my childhood.

Haven't watched yet, but that sounds like a bummer. I was too young for vintage kenner figures, until orange card PotF all I had for Star Wars toys where some bendy figures, and some Galoob stuff (Micro Machines, and Action Fleet) there was a very real draught of Star Wars merch for ahwile, as wierd as that seems now.
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Posted 08 January 2018 - 11:19 AM

 

 

Apparently there were no SW toys from 1986-94? I had never heard that.

 

its true. once the first power of the force ended that was it (wait. when were the ewoks and droids toys out? anyway...). i think it was pretty much considered a dead toy franchise until the orange card series kicked off and everyone lost their shit over them (me included). they hit at just the right time, when people who had grown up with the original toys were entering the work force and could buy what they wanted now

 

I was so dissappointed they didn't cover the Orange Card stuff, and acted like the relaunch began with Phantom Menace. It was an important moment in my childhood.

 

Yeah that was a huge problem for me too. They mention the 90s POTF for one second and moved on to talking about episode 1. POTF was huge and got many people to collect star wars. The other big problem I had was the MOTU episode where they don't even mention matty collector as the one making the classic line, they just jump to Super 7 having the line.



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:48 PM

Well, they're obviously trying to fit 30+ years of interesting history into 45 minutes, so some details are going to be skimmed over. I noticed the Power of the Force omission too, but really, the interesting part of the story was that Star Wars had stopped being a juggernaut by 1985, and both Lucas and Kenner effectively abandoned it for a decade. When Lucas decided to resurrect it by announcing the prequels and Special Editions, Kenner realized they had thrown away billions in future profits over a measly $10k annual payment, and had to renegotiate the deal. Then as the new movies came out, a new generation bought Star Wars toys, and they never stopped again. That's the meat of the story, and the show told it. The He-Manly sculpts of the early PotF line could've been a fun diversion for 15 seconds, but I get that it might have taken away from the thrust of the story they were telling.

 

The Joe/SHIELD thing I didn't know about, but that's an even less significant detail. Most writers-for-hire will "recast" failed pitches for other properties. I mean, that's how every "Die Hard" sequel started. And the episode was about the toys and how they used the comic to sell the toys.



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:56 PM

 

 

Apparently there were no SW toys from 1986-94? I had never heard that.

 

its true. once the first power of the force ended that was it (wait. when were the ewoks and droids toys out? anyway...). i think it was pretty much considered a dead toy franchise until the orange card series kicked off and everyone lost their shit over them (me included). they hit at just the right time, when people who had grown up with the original toys were entering the work force and could buy what they wanted now

 

I was so dissappointed they didn't cover the Orange Card stuff, and acted like the relaunch began with Phantom Menace. It was an important moment in my childhood.

 

 

I can totally accept that certain aspects of the story would get glossed over in the need to simplify the story for less obsessive fans and to meet the (arbitrary, given that it's Netflix) run time, but I'm not okay with changing history altogether. To suggest that the Star Wars toyline was revived for the prequel trilogy is indeed such a change I'm not okay with.

 

 

(I'd want to double-check before asserting this too loudly, but given where SotE fits in, I don't even think the prequels were conceived yet when PotF2 started!)


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 12:57 PM

I binged through the series this weekend.  I enjoyed it a lot -- even the Barbie episode, which is not a brand that I've ever cared about.  So the show did a good job of making the information lively and entertaining.  But I agree that it left out a lot of significant details.  The deregulation of childrens' advertising is a key element to the success of both He-Man and G.I. Joe, but it wasn't really mentioned.  The Joe episode at least talked about the commercial advertising the comic book, but didn't explain how the cartoon fit into that.



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 01:20 PM

It also would have been more honest if them to acknowledge the failure and effective - if not actual - cancellation of GIJoe.

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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:30 PM

(I'd want to double-check before asserting this too loudly, but given where SotE fits in, I don't even think the prequels were conceived yet when PotF2 started!)

 

shadows came out in '96, so they MAY have been kicking around an idea for the prequels. actually, looking at wiki, they started on the prequels as early as '94 (https://en.wikipedia...tion_and_design). maybe shadows was an attempt to start building hype for new movies


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 02:35 PM

 

(I'd want to double-check before asserting this too loudly, but given where SotE fits in, I don't even think the prequels were conceived yet when PotF2 started!)

 

shadows came out in '96, so they MAY have been kicking around an idea for the prequels. actually, looking at wiki, they started on the prequels as early as '94 (https://en.wikipedia...tion_and_design). maybe shadows was an attempt to start building hype for new movies

 

 

By the time of Shadows, I'm willing to agree that the Prequels might have been kicking around as a concept. Indeed, it seems more or less certain. I'm less willing to make that concession for when PotF2 began a couple of years earlier. At best, your timeline suggests that the concepts started as PotF2 actually hit the shelves, but Kenner had to start work on PotF2 well before that....

 

 

And, IMHO, Shadows was absolutely an attempt to start building hype for new movies. But not just the Prequels. It was building hype for the Special Editions, which themselves were done to build funding for the prequels.


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 03:19 PM

 

 

(I'd want to double-check before asserting this too loudly, but given where SotE fits in, I don't even think the prequels were conceived yet when PotF2 started!)

 

shadows came out in '96, so they MAY have been kicking around an idea for the prequels. actually, looking at wiki, they started on the prequels as early as '94 (https://en.wikipedia...tion_and_design). maybe shadows was an attempt to start building hype for new movies

 

 

By the time of Shadows, I'm willing to agree that the Prequels might have been kicking around as a concept. Indeed, it seems more or less certain. I'm less willing to make that concession for when PotF2 began a couple of years earlier. At best, your timeline suggests that the concepts started as PotF2 actually hit the shelves, but Kenner had to start work on PotF2 well before that...

 

im not exactly sure what youre getting at (its not you, its me. im not as sharp as i used to be). potf2 came out before shadows, obviously. and everything ive read says it was '95 They were at toy fair '96 https://news.google....=4065,3144089).i KNOW they couldnt have come out any later than '95 because i was witha girl who made fun of me for buying them, and we broke up in '95 lol im sure kenner started work on the figures in probly '92 or '93. we all know it takes a couple years to go from design to store shelves


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:11 PM

 

 

 

(I'd want to double-check before asserting this too loudly, but given where SotE fits in, I don't even think the prequels were conceived yet when PotF2 started!)

 

shadows came out in '96, so they MAY have been kicking around an idea for the prequels. actually, looking at wiki, they started on the prequels as early as '94 (https://en.wikipedia...tion_and_design). maybe shadows was an attempt to start building hype for new movies

 

 

By the time of Shadows, I'm willing to agree that the Prequels might have been kicking around as a concept. Indeed, it seems more or less certain. I'm less willing to make that concession for when PotF2 began a couple of years earlier. At best, your timeline suggests that the concepts started as PotF2 actually hit the shelves, but Kenner had to start work on PotF2 well before that...

 

im not exactly sure what youre getting at (its not you, its me. im not as sharp as i used to be). potf2 came out before shadows, obviously. and everything ive read says it was '95 They were at toy fair '96 https://news.google....=4065,3144089).i KNOW they couldnt have come out any later than '95 because i was witha girl who made fun of me for buying them, and we broke up in '95 lol im sure kenner started work on the figures in probly '92 or '93. we all know it takes a couple years to go from design to store shelves

 

 

I think you're coming around to the point. Because Shadows, itself, was after PotF2, and Shadows was barely early enough to be when the prequels were being planned, I assert that PotF2's emergence had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that the prequels would eventually exist.



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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:46 PM

ah. gotcha now. yeah i dont think anyone knew the prequels were coming when they started


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Posted 08 January 2018 - 04:52 PM

ah. gotcha now. yeah i dont think anyone knew the prequels were coming when they started

From Wikipedia:

 

 

 In the early 1990s, Star Wars saw a resurgence in popularity in the wake of Dark Horse's comic line and Timothy Zahn's trilogy of novels. Lucas saw there was still a large audience for his idea of a prequel trilogy and with the development of special effects generated with computer-generated imagery (CGI), Lucas considered returning to his saga and directing the film. In 1993, it was announced in Variety and other sources that he would be making the prequels.

https://en.wikipedia..._Phantom_Menace

 

So, all development for PotF action figures, from contract negotiation to design to release, would likely have been after the prequels were announced and in pre(-pre)-production. 



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Posted 09 January 2018 - 01:24 AM

when the deuce are the next episodes coming?  I want more!


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 11:56 AM

How's the treatment on Joe and Barbie? Neither of those is an 80s line. They existed in the 80s, but that's because Barbie is eternal and Joe was an also-ran in between He-Man and Transformers.

 

 

Wha? ARAH was an "also ran"? It came out the same year as He-Man, was a direct competitor, and predated Transformers by two years. Without ARAH one could argue GIJoe would just be another Mego.

 

Anyway, finally sat down and watched the first ep and it is pretty well done. But as others have mentioned, skipping over the POTF 2 introduction is a fairly glaring omission if the goal is to track the toyline's history.

 

As to chronology, the toy revival coincided with the '95 "final" release of the trilogy on VHS and Laserdisc. Here's an article talking about those specifically, and how they were the first step in the plan towards the special editions and prequels. It was definitely a big deal as it was the first line to truly capitalize on the burgeoning vintage toy craze and set the stage (for better and worse) for the industry as we see it today.


 
 
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Posted 13 January 2018 - 04:28 PM

I laughed watching these.
Especially funny to me was seeing something I entered in the He-Man "Create a character" contest that got turned into a toy (even though I received noting for it).
Funny to think that was a popular character for some.
Sure, it ticked me off at the time, but now...
heh.


Might I ask which character it was?

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 04:29 PM

I laughed watching these.
Especially funny to me was seeing something I entered in the He-Man "Create a character" contest that got turned into a toy (even though I received noting for it).
Funny to think that was a popular character for some.
Sure, it ticked me off at the time, but now...
heh.

Might I ask which character it was? :)

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 05:45 PM


Fearless Photog won the contest:

https://en.m.wikiped...Fearless_Photog

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 08:42 PM


You're missremembering.

The eyeball guy was one of the five finalists. You can see them all here:

http://www.grayskull...on/Fearless.htm

He wasn't the final winner. Kids had to call in and vote and Photog won that vote.

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Posted 13 January 2018 - 10:18 PM

Ironically my brother drew an illustration of a bunch of MotU characters fighting when he was a kid in the 80's and actually drew Photog in the illustration. He must have had the information about the winner and Drew him in anticipation of the figure that wouldn't be made for over twenty years.

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