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@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2018 - 11:40 AM)

Mwahahaha! I am writing this WIRELESSLY from my desktop!

@  unluckiness : (13 November 2018 - 10:28 AM)

yes.

@  Pennpenn : (13 November 2018 - 07:48 AM)

Is that nightmare fuel for wanking or nightmare fuel that is- actually you know what never mind.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2018 - 05:07 AM)

This is the Internet. Everything produces wanking nightmare fuel.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 November 2018 - 01:52 AM)

Yet both have produced wanking nightmare fuel. (Rule 34 is a harsh mistress)

@  fourteenwings : (12 November 2018 - 11:41 PM)

I don't know if "magic animals" and "mecha" abide by the same design principals.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 November 2018 - 09:20 PM)

PS4 controllers are crap. x.x;

@  Paladin : (12 November 2018 - 08:16 PM)

it took me way too long to realize that didn't actually say "wanking nightmare fuel."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 November 2018 - 08:14 PM)

I'm quite sure that directors don't make the designs because that would be ludicrous amount of work for a single person.

@  Noideaforaname : (12 November 2018 - 05:35 PM)

I guess "walking nightmare fuel" is an improvement...

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2018 - 04:12 PM)

It’s something when the new Pokemon movie is completely accurate to the original source character designs than the Transformers movies. Michael Bay would have created hyper stylised redesigns of Pokemon and many completely new designs if he was doing it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 November 2018 - 01:54 PM)

RIP Stan Lee.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (12 November 2018 - 04:25 AM)

Ehh.. Except for a couple of people, the video game section isn't that bad.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2018 - 08:27 PM)

It feels like this hasn't been said enough: anybody who cares what people at TFW does would surely just check there themselves.

@  Gryllid : (11 November 2018 - 06:50 PM)

And with the Seinfeld/Cyberverse names, the genders matched up, and some of them seem fitting enough ("Peterman" for a leader figure prone to dramatic pronouncements; "Puddy" for a big, strong, gruff guy, etc.)

@  Gryllid : (11 November 2018 - 06:46 PM)

Well, the codenames aren't completely random. Shatter and Dropkick were "Red Light" and "Blue Light", weren't they? Referencing their colors.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 November 2018 - 09:05 AM)

I'm sure the Hasbro logistics guy in charge of assigning the code names would be amused too, if he knew what TFW2005 was.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2018 - 01:30 AM)

Yup. TFW2005.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

Even though we have seen time and again that those names are just randomly applied names from whatever "theme" Hasbro has chosen for the respective line, with no intentional relation between code name and character.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

I love how folks on TFW2005 still assume the code names for toys from new toylines are mystery games Hasbro has created for the fans, and thus are trying to interpret a meaning into those names to guess the character.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:56 PM)

I haven't watched many eps yet... Mainly cause I've gotten where I just wait till seasons end and watch the whole thing.

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:23 PM)

I presume he's going to feature heavily in episode 15

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:20 PM)

And like I said in one of the discussion threads, his voice reminds me of the English dub of Alexander Armstrong from Fullmetal Alchemist

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:20 PM)

Ahh, I ment shown up as a Main character yet, but I wasn't specific. :D

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 07:19 PM)

He showed up in "Maccadam's", and has at least been heard in a few other prior episodes.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 07:06 PM)

Yeah, he's shown up a couple of times.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 07:01 PM)

I ment in the show.

@  Nevermore : (09 November 2018 - 06:38 PM)

Which one?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Has Cyberverse Grim even showed up yet?

@  Paladin : (09 November 2018 - 05:26 PM)

now that it's out in the open, can I just say NuRID Grimlock is the most interesting version of the character in TWENTY YEARS?

@  Foffy : (09 November 2018 - 05:08 PM)

grimlock eats sloppily at olive garden (ASMR)

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

It could have fit perfectly in Robots in Disguise too. Just have Grimlock waving a pool noodle around and give the line to Drift.

@  abates : (09 November 2018 - 05:07 PM)

Underquoted Transformers: The Movie quotes: "Grimlock, get your noodle out of my face."

@  RichardT1977 : (09 November 2018 - 04:58 PM)

Yeah, IIRC Wilbur was a spring pig.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2018 - 01:48 PM)

I read that as "First sow of the season" and I was about to say that I wasn't aware pigs were typically born in the winter.

@  Paladin : (09 November 2018 - 08:59 AM)

ugh. first snow of the season...

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2018 - 08:22 AM)

Shield agent, that's just nuts...

@  Pennpenn : (09 November 2018 - 03:56 AM)

Though there are rumours he's secretly a Pine.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 November 2018 - 01:15 AM)

Idea: in a universe wherein plant alt-modes are common, Maccadam transforms into a macadamia tree.

@  Waspinator : (08 November 2018 - 08:51 PM)

That apparently gets you the help you want. https://www.schlockm....com/2010-04-14

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 07:01 PM)

Eh, just conference call it to the suicide hotline AI.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2018 - 05:00 PM)

Soon we'll have AI making the calls.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 04:04 PM)

Sure, but you can't try to counter-troll them and see if you can annoy them into giving up first.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 03:29 PM)

Robots are cheaper, and don't have mental break downs when people swear at them. Considering how many call centers these days are scams: it's not hard to see why folks don't want to work in them.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 03:25 PM)

I miss getting real people for spam calls instead of bots. The bots are no fun.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 November 2018 - 03:24 PM)

I like the robot from "the visa mastercard rewards center". It feels so cathartic to slam the phone on it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (08 November 2018 - 02:57 PM)

A lot of our phone scams up here come from India, pretending to be Revenue Canada. I think they mostly target recent immigrants who aren't familiar with the system, but they've gotten lots of clueless seniors, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2018 - 02:52 PM)

I like the ones that fake the caller ID so it looks like your own number is calling you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (08 November 2018 - 02:46 PM)

U.S. phone spam is getting ridiculous. I got calls from New York and California in the same hour today.


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Posted 26 June 2018 - 11:06 PM

I recall the 09 movie toys we had at work not selling and later seeing tons of them in discount stores.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 09:47 AM

TTTMU could have mentioned those, aw.

I'm not a Star trek watcher so I didn't know that the Enterprise couldn't land on planets. That was cool.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:18 AM

Yeah, the 09 Playmates line was pretty heavily maligned (rightfully so).

It flopped so bad, they never even released the second wave, which was required to complete people's bridge and transporter playsets!



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Posted 27 June 2018 - 01:28 PM

 

Yeah, the 09 Playmates line was pretty heavily maligned (rightfully so).

It flopped so bad, they never even released the second wave, which was required to complete people's bridge and transporter playsets!

 

Hah, I remember that.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:24 PM

Maybe because the actual movie was Kurtzman&Orci toxic turd-burger of a flick? Hardly something that really appealed to kids (too nostalgic) and outright offended a lot of adults (too much defecating on a beloved childhood memory).

 

Not a good way to sell toys.

 

Eh, the toys were just bad. I remember in the lead up people were pretty excited to get a 3 3/4 line of ST figures... then they showed up. Had they been good figures, the sales would have been there, and I think there were even plan for TOS stuff. As it was though, nope.


 
 
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 03:26 PM

 

Maybe because the actual movie was Kurtzman&Orci toxic turd-burger of a flick? Hardly something that really appealed to kids (too nostalgic) and outright offended a lot of adults (too much defecating on a beloved childhood memory).

 

Not a good way to sell toys.

 

Eh, the toys were just bad. I remember in the lead up people were pretty excited to get a 3 3/4 line of ST figures... then they showed up. Had they been good figures, the sales would have been there, and I think there were even plan for TOS stuff. As it was though, nope.

 

 

Honestly, I'm not so sure. I didn't think the figures themselves were so bad, and that Transporter set (while incomplete, which was its own problem) emulated the effect pretty well, IMHO. What would you have suggested the 3 3/4 figures do differently?



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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:06 PM

Personally, I was just hoping for something on par with Joe/Star Wars/Marvel of the time. Instead, they were more like Mattel's Avatar line - a bit regressive compared to Hasbro's best (the same buck for all the male figures was definitely a strike). Also, I think they were true 3.75, so they were both aesthetically different and smaller than everything on the shelf.


 
 
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:20 PM

Personally, I was just hoping for something on par with Joe/Star Wars/Marvel of the time. Instead, they were more like Mattel's Avatar line - a bit regressive compared to Hasbro's best (the same buck for all the male figures was definitely a strike). Also, I think they were true 3.75, so they were both aesthetically different and smaller than everything on the shelf.

 

Actually, don't most Marvel figures use the same male bucks? In any event, I wouldn't expect any different for a line where everyone uses the same Starfleet uniforms.

And, they all had elbows and knees, which is more than can be said a for lot of Star Wars figures these days (although, going by your already stated "of the time" caveat, I don't think the Black Series had started yet, so perhaps Star Wars figures back then still had them).

I'm just not sure what makes these guys (who, bluntly, look too much the "same" to start with, so that's a strike against them before anything else) "regressive" in a way that could have been fixed. 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

The Star Wars line of the time was the Legacy collection and Saga Legends which was made up of highly and super-articulated figures. Marvel did use common bucks, but they weren't rectangular blobs, and they still had a few different ones to choose from. Kirk, Spock, Scotty and McCoy shouldn't all be the exact same. They also had soft facial sculpts and pretty basic legs. 

 

I freely admit my expectations were high though. Nobody did that scale like Hasbro, but I had hopes of having Kirk and Han chilling in the Cantina and it just didn't work out. :D


 
 
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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:31 PM

Was it before or after that point where they used pretty much the same construction on Terminator Salvation figures and they all just sat on shelves forever?  They really did look pretty lackluster on the shelf against everything else.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:39 PM

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:52 PM

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.

No. Wrong. 2009 was near the 1:18th zenith. MU started strong, Joe was still alive at retail, DC was trying to get on board with Infinite Heroes, SW was producing top quality figures with The Legacy Collection. By contrast, Marvel Legends was dead, DCUC was on life support, NECA hadn't begun its strong collector oriented push yet. Oil and plastic were expensive, everyone got on board 1:18. Even the A-Team movie.

They also tried a 1:12 line for the movie that bombed just as hard because the toys were shit.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

 

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.

No. Wrong. 2009 was near the 1:18th zenith. MU started strong, Joe was still alive at retail, DC was trying to get on board with Infinite Heroes, SW was producing top quality figures with The Legacy Collection. By contrast, Marvel Legends was dead, DCUC was on life support, NECA hadn't begun its strong collector oriented push yet. Oil and plastic were expensive, everyone got on board 1:18. Even the A-Team movie.

They also tried a 1:12 line for the movie that bombed just as hard because the toys were shit.

 

 

Woah, dude! Did I accidentally kick your puppy or something? If so, I apologize.

I was just trying to think of something Playmates might have done that would have made the figures more successful. As it is, I'm still not even convinced that the 3 3/4" figures were bad in any way that wasn't dictated by being... well... a Star Trek figure line.



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 08:22 PM

I guess the question at hand is why are you trying so hard to find another reason? :D

 

As AO says, 1:18 was going quite well. Rise of Cobra hadn't come out yet and flooded the pegs with overpriced figures dressed in gray and MU and Star Wars were crushing it. 

 

Playmates' Trek and Terminator figures would have been great for the late nineties/early 2000's (though even then, their sculpting wouldn't have stood up next to Hasbro's Star Wars output), but definitely not when seen hanging on the pegs next to the big three from Hasbro in 2009.

 

Ultimately though, just trust your eyes. Believe me - I wanted to buy them so bad. I reeealy wanted to get to these guys in 3.75 because I have about a thousand other 3.75 figures. Yet even once the line flopped (remember the movie was hailed as the savior of Star Trek - it did great - there should have been plenty of people looking), I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on them at clearance. They just didn't look very good compared to what collectors had come to expect at that time.


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 09:50 AM

I guess the question at hand is why are you trying so hard to find another reason? :D

 

As AO says, 1:18 was going quite well. Rise of Cobra hadn't come out yet and flooded the pegs with overpriced figures dressed in gray and MU and Star Wars were crushing it. 

 

Playmates' Trek and Terminator figures would have been great for the late nineties/early 2000's (though even then, their sculpting wouldn't have stood up next to Hasbro's Star Wars output), but definitely not when seen hanging on the pegs next to the big three from Hasbro in 2009.

 

Ultimately though, just trust your eyes. Believe me - I wanted to buy them so bad. I reeealy wanted to get to these guys in 3.75 because I have about a thousand other 3.75 figures. Yet even once the line flopped (remember the movie was hailed as the savior of Star Trek - it did great - there should have been plenty of people looking), I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on them at clearance. They just didn't look very good compared to what collectors had come to expect at that time.

 

Oh, I agree. But I disagree with the idea that the figures were especially defective. They're simply Star Trek figures. Unless you're REALLY into the franchise, that makes for a fairly boring figure. It was always going to be that way.

Add in that these aren't even our versions of Kirk, Spock, et al, and there was even less reason to get excited about these things.



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Posted 19 July 2018 - 04:51 PM

And the next four episodes have been confirmed! 

 

*Power Rangers

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*My Little Pony

*Wrestling. 

 

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 05:15 PM

Where is Gundam?!

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:41 AM

Where is Gundam?!


In space usually, right?

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 04:45 AM

Where is Gundam?!


Not in American toy boxes.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:31 PM

There was something in the Transformers episode that kept bugging me, but I never got around to asking about. There were at least a couple references in that episode to the "original 26" Transformers. I know one of them was Budiansky referring to the bios he was asked to create. The thing that's been bugging me is where did the number 26 come from?

 

The '84 toyline had 28 characters - 18 Autobots, 10 Decepticons. All 18 of the Autobots were sold individually, but Soundwave and the five cassettes were sold in three two-packs. That makes for 25 items sold at retail.

 

I'm guessing that changes to the product lineup may be at play here. It's been suspected that Grapple was originally going to be the 12th figure in the '84 Autobot case instead of double packing Mirage, right? And Shockwave was there at the beginning, even if his toy wasn't. So maybe it was 26 characters at the start, with some later removed and others added? Anyone know just who those original 26 would have been?

 

Then again, could just be that Budiansky misspoke. He did have and show his original notes though, so seems like the sort of thing that would likely be accurate.





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