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@  RichardT1977 : (21 February 2019 - 10:56 PM)

Thirty Helens agree.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2019 - 09:41 PM)

People forget the whole phrase. It's "Great minds thing alike, but fools rarely differ."

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

The German version is very straightforward: "Two idiots, one idea."

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

English: "Great minds think alike".

@  Nevermore : (21 February 2019 - 08:49 PM)

Here's an example of a phrase that's charmingly positive in English but self-deprecating in German:

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Turns out the basic figures in the transformers siege line are basically minicons, and my sister is back in the hospital for another psychotic break. It's been an emotional day, and it's not even 1 pm yet.

@  Pennpenn : (21 February 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Maybe, or maybe it'd be more like wood? Y'know, bashing each other with planks.

@  Ashley : (21 February 2019 - 12:23 AM)

Wouldn't pillow fights be like slapping each other with meat?

@  unluckiness : (20 February 2019 - 11:54 PM)

RODO ROLLA DA

@  MEDdMI : (20 February 2019 - 11:14 PM)

they hit each other with full sized vehicles

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Also, do Softmus Prime and Slumblebee engage in pillow fights?

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Feathertron?

@  MEDdMI : (20 February 2019 - 08:34 AM)

@Penn Megadown, maybe?

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 05:38 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2019 - 05:37 AM)

Who gives the orders in cyberwarfare?

@  Pennpenn : (20 February 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I wonder what Megatron would end up in that context?

@  Sabrblade : (19 February 2019 - 09:21 PM)

It's not "Optiplush"... it's "Softimus Prime"

@  Ashley : (19 February 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I've got the two plushes from the first movie, they're great

@  Shrug : (19 February 2019 - 08:00 PM)

Still have mine, although Optiplush Prime is kind of discolored

@  Shrug : (19 February 2019 - 07:59 PM)

They came out around the time of the first movie with the big merch push, but they were distinctly G1 and everything else wasnt, IIRC

@  Trpodeca : (19 February 2019 - 04:51 PM)

Take another shot Wonko.

@  Trpodeca : (19 February 2019 - 04:51 PM)

prime the lost season

@  wonko the sane? : (19 February 2019 - 01:41 PM)

I did not even know those things were a thing. I guess they didn't do very well cause they didn't make more of them.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 February 2019 - 01:25 PM)

Pfft, Hasbro did that 12 years ago with Slumblebee and Optiplush Prime

@  Xellos : (19 February 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Well, this past Christmas I did see licensed plush Transformers that went from their robot to vehicle mode by turning inside out just like popples.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 February 2019 - 12:02 PM)

Why DIDN'T transformers make plushes ala popples?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Design in mixed media and make him out of actual flannel.

@  Lancer : (18 February 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Make his fur a red and black flannel pattern

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:10 PM)

Bonus points if you can work in a red and black flannel pattern on his chest plate.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:09 PM)

Might as well make it cliched. Lumberjack moose male and aristocratic deer female.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Or their aristocratic deer.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2019 - 08:10 PM)

Thinking of making a pair of moose Transformer OCs, male and female. Thier a lovey dovy pair of lumberjacks

@  Paladin : (18 February 2019 - 06:56 PM)

they also have NOTORIOUSLY poor protection on their servers. do NOT keep a credit card on file there.

@  Telly : (18 February 2019 - 04:48 PM)

i just checked my past tfsource orders, and theres no sales tax charge

@  Arazyr : (18 February 2019 - 11:16 AM)

They haven't (yet, at least) on the stuff I currently have in my Stack. Haven't had them ship anything for a while, though, so I don't know if they will when I do...

@  Benbot : (18 February 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Does TFSource charge sales tax?

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2019 - 09:47 AM)

That's because, once upon a time, the people whom owned the animals weren't the people whom butchered them. So the pig was owned by a saxon who spoke english, but butchered by a french speaker. So a pig got cut up into PORC chops.

@  unluckiness : (18 February 2019 - 03:25 AM)

Hank Pym<<<< Hank Hill

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 February 2019 - 01:28 AM)

In that case, I don't see anything wrong with English speakers calling it what it is in English. Even though we technically use the French words for what comes out of it. "Beef", "pork"...

@  Bass X0 : (17 February 2019 - 02:04 PM)

I’d like a Siege Thundercracker who has his regular blue colors Cybertronian jet mode which transforms into a robot mode with his Action Master colors. Looks like it could be possible.

@  Paladin : (17 February 2019 - 11:57 AM)

The cow was slaughtered in the abattoir.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 February 2019 - 08:53 AM)

It's not a pretty name: abattoir is literally just the french word for slaughterhouse.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 February 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Giving it a pretty name won't make it a pretty place.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 February 2019 - 02:45 AM)

I do believe there is an aphorism about the U.S.A. and yogurt being different because after 200 years the latter will have a culture.

@  Maruten : (16 February 2019 - 11:30 PM)

There's another word for "abattoir"?! Honestly you people, "slaughterhouse" is a bit on the nose.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 February 2019 - 10:09 PM)

I learned this week that the French-style term abattoir is prevalent in the UK/Commonwealth in place of where U.S.-American Anglophones would say "slaughterhouse". Fascinating.

@  MEDdMI : (16 February 2019 - 08:51 PM)

Nonsense. Everybody loves all my posts.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (16 February 2019 - 08:27 PM)

Or dislike them. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2019 - 05:34 PM)

Wish we could like the shout posts...

@  Patch : (16 February 2019 - 04:26 PM)

Uh oh. Here comes a flock of Wah-Wahs.


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#201 HellCat

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Posted 26 June 2018 - 11:06 PM

I recall the 09 movie toys we had at work not selling and later seeing tons of them in discount stores.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 09:47 AM

TTTMU could have mentioned those, aw.

I'm not a Star trek watcher so I didn't know that the Enterprise couldn't land on planets. That was cool.

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Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:18 AM

Yeah, the 09 Playmates line was pretty heavily maligned (rightfully so).

It flopped so bad, they never even released the second wave, which was required to complete people's bridge and transporter playsets!



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Posted 27 June 2018 - 01:28 PM

 

Yeah, the 09 Playmates line was pretty heavily maligned (rightfully so).

It flopped so bad, they never even released the second wave, which was required to complete people's bridge and transporter playsets!

 

Hah, I remember that.


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 02:24 PM

Maybe because the actual movie was Kurtzman&Orci toxic turd-burger of a flick? Hardly something that really appealed to kids (too nostalgic) and outright offended a lot of adults (too much defecating on a beloved childhood memory).

 

Not a good way to sell toys.

 

Eh, the toys were just bad. I remember in the lead up people were pretty excited to get a 3 3/4 line of ST figures... then they showed up. Had they been good figures, the sales would have been there, and I think there were even plan for TOS stuff. As it was though, nope.


 
 
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 03:26 PM

 

Maybe because the actual movie was Kurtzman&Orci toxic turd-burger of a flick? Hardly something that really appealed to kids (too nostalgic) and outright offended a lot of adults (too much defecating on a beloved childhood memory).

 

Not a good way to sell toys.

 

Eh, the toys were just bad. I remember in the lead up people were pretty excited to get a 3 3/4 line of ST figures... then they showed up. Had they been good figures, the sales would have been there, and I think there were even plan for TOS stuff. As it was though, nope.

 

 

Honestly, I'm not so sure. I didn't think the figures themselves were so bad, and that Transporter set (while incomplete, which was its own problem) emulated the effect pretty well, IMHO. What would you have suggested the 3 3/4 figures do differently?



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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:06 PM

Personally, I was just hoping for something on par with Joe/Star Wars/Marvel of the time. Instead, they were more like Mattel's Avatar line - a bit regressive compared to Hasbro's best (the same buck for all the male figures was definitely a strike). Also, I think they were true 3.75, so they were both aesthetically different and smaller than everything on the shelf.


 
 
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Posted 27 June 2018 - 05:20 PM

Personally, I was just hoping for something on par with Joe/Star Wars/Marvel of the time. Instead, they were more like Mattel's Avatar line - a bit regressive compared to Hasbro's best (the same buck for all the male figures was definitely a strike). Also, I think they were true 3.75, so they were both aesthetically different and smaller than everything on the shelf.

 

Actually, don't most Marvel figures use the same male bucks? In any event, I wouldn't expect any different for a line where everyone uses the same Starfleet uniforms.

And, they all had elbows and knees, which is more than can be said a for lot of Star Wars figures these days (although, going by your already stated "of the time" caveat, I don't think the Black Series had started yet, so perhaps Star Wars figures back then still had them).

I'm just not sure what makes these guys (who, bluntly, look too much the "same" to start with, so that's a strike against them before anything else) "regressive" in a way that could have been fixed. 


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Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:49 PM

The Star Wars line of the time was the Legacy collection and Saga Legends which was made up of highly and super-articulated figures. Marvel did use common bucks, but they weren't rectangular blobs, and they still had a few different ones to choose from. Kirk, Spock, Scotty and McCoy shouldn't all be the exact same. They also had soft facial sculpts and pretty basic legs. 

 

I freely admit my expectations were high though. Nobody did that scale like Hasbro, but I had hopes of having Kirk and Han chilling in the Cantina and it just didn't work out. :D


 
 
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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:31 PM

Was it before or after that point where they used pretty much the same construction on Terminator Salvation figures and they all just sat on shelves forever?  They really did look pretty lackluster on the shelf against everything else.


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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:39 PM

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:52 PM

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.

No. Wrong. 2009 was near the 1:18th zenith. MU started strong, Joe was still alive at retail, DC was trying to get on board with Infinite Heroes, SW was producing top quality figures with The Legacy Collection. By contrast, Marvel Legends was dead, DCUC was on life support, NECA hadn't begun its strong collector oriented push yet. Oil and plastic were expensive, everyone got on board 1:18. Even the A-Team movie.

They also tried a 1:12 line for the movie that bombed just as hard because the toys were shit.

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Posted 28 June 2018 - 04:23 PM

 

I do think one of the issues (speaking just about toy construction, and without regard to whether or not things were helped by the popularity... or lack thereof... of the movies) is that we're looking at an era where, even if the axe hadn't YET fallen, 3 3/4" scale was becoming less viable for toy companies. Perhaps if Playmates had chosen to do their Trek line at a scale closer to the old ST:TNG figures (arguably one of the few times a Trek line was a commercial success), they'd have done better.

No. Wrong. 2009 was near the 1:18th zenith. MU started strong, Joe was still alive at retail, DC was trying to get on board with Infinite Heroes, SW was producing top quality figures with The Legacy Collection. By contrast, Marvel Legends was dead, DCUC was on life support, NECA hadn't begun its strong collector oriented push yet. Oil and plastic were expensive, everyone got on board 1:18. Even the A-Team movie.

They also tried a 1:12 line for the movie that bombed just as hard because the toys were shit.

 

 

Woah, dude! Did I accidentally kick your puppy or something? If so, I apologize.

I was just trying to think of something Playmates might have done that would have made the figures more successful. As it is, I'm still not even convinced that the 3 3/4" figures were bad in any way that wasn't dictated by being... well... a Star Trek figure line.



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Posted 28 June 2018 - 08:22 PM

I guess the question at hand is why are you trying so hard to find another reason? :D

 

As AO says, 1:18 was going quite well. Rise of Cobra hadn't come out yet and flooded the pegs with overpriced figures dressed in gray and MU and Star Wars were crushing it. 

 

Playmates' Trek and Terminator figures would have been great for the late nineties/early 2000's (though even then, their sculpting wouldn't have stood up next to Hasbro's Star Wars output), but definitely not when seen hanging on the pegs next to the big three from Hasbro in 2009.

 

Ultimately though, just trust your eyes. Believe me - I wanted to buy them so bad. I reeealy wanted to get to these guys in 3.75 because I have about a thousand other 3.75 figures. Yet even once the line flopped (remember the movie was hailed as the savior of Star Trek - it did great - there should have been plenty of people looking), I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on them at clearance. They just didn't look very good compared to what collectors had come to expect at that time.


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Posted 29 June 2018 - 09:50 AM

I guess the question at hand is why are you trying so hard to find another reason? :D

 

As AO says, 1:18 was going quite well. Rise of Cobra hadn't come out yet and flooded the pegs with overpriced figures dressed in gray and MU and Star Wars were crushing it. 

 

Playmates' Trek and Terminator figures would have been great for the late nineties/early 2000's (though even then, their sculpting wouldn't have stood up next to Hasbro's Star Wars output), but definitely not when seen hanging on the pegs next to the big three from Hasbro in 2009.

 

Ultimately though, just trust your eyes. Believe me - I wanted to buy them so bad. I reeealy wanted to get to these guys in 3.75 because I have about a thousand other 3.75 figures. Yet even once the line flopped (remember the movie was hailed as the savior of Star Trek - it did great - there should have been plenty of people looking), I couldn't bring myself to spend the money on them at clearance. They just didn't look very good compared to what collectors had come to expect at that time.

 

Oh, I agree. But I disagree with the idea that the figures were especially defective. They're simply Star Trek figures. Unless you're REALLY into the franchise, that makes for a fairly boring figure. It was always going to be that way.

Add in that these aren't even our versions of Kirk, Spock, et al, and there was even less reason to get excited about these things.



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Posted 19 July 2018 - 04:51 PM

And the next four episodes have been confirmed! 

 

*Power Rangers

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 05:15 PM

Where is Gundam?!

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 02:41 AM

Where is Gundam?!


In space usually, right?

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 04:45 AM

Where is Gundam?!


Not in American toy boxes.

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Posted 20 July 2018 - 12:31 PM

There was something in the Transformers episode that kept bugging me, but I never got around to asking about. There were at least a couple references in that episode to the "original 26" Transformers. I know one of them was Budiansky referring to the bios he was asked to create. The thing that's been bugging me is where did the number 26 come from?

 

The '84 toyline had 28 characters - 18 Autobots, 10 Decepticons. All 18 of the Autobots were sold individually, but Soundwave and the five cassettes were sold in three two-packs. That makes for 25 items sold at retail.

 

I'm guessing that changes to the product lineup may be at play here. It's been suspected that Grapple was originally going to be the 12th figure in the '84 Autobot case instead of double packing Mirage, right? And Shockwave was there at the beginning, even if his toy wasn't. So maybe it was 26 characters at the start, with some later removed and others added? Anyone know just who those original 26 would have been?

 

Then again, could just be that Budiansky misspoke. He did have and show his original notes though, so seems like the sort of thing that would likely be accurate.





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