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@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2020 - 02:47 AM)

Fake news, no shinobi.

@  Sabrblade : (13 August 2020 - 10:31 PM)

Turns out the President set the whole thing up as a publicity stunt. Very rude.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?


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#2121 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 10:29 AM

The Cinderella Girls character designer is this person, who seems to mostly stick with [email protected]

Nero is definitely supposed to look like Nicole. It took me a while to notice the small touch of how the hair above their foreheads is swept in the same direction. And the casual outfit is just her version of Nicole's World's End outfit.

Also, 2/3 of AXiS bear more obvious resemblance to their Seventh Sisters counterparts.

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 10:42 AM

Oh so she's Evil Nicole.



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Posted 24 October 2019 - 11:33 PM

They're even played by the same person, after all


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Posted 26 October 2019 - 06:29 PM

I finished section 71 and 72 of Mahabharata, and thus volume 6.

71 starts with Krishna being way happy about Ghatotkacha's death, which confuses Arjuna. Krishna says it's because Karna used Indra's spear already. But he also says that Karna could not be defeated if he still had the armor ad earrings, which is strange given that that happened even before he lost them.

Krishna also brings up how Jarasandha and Ekalavya were killed through his yoga. In chapter 1133 (page 422) he says that if they were still alive they would've joined the Kaurava side and would've been big trouble. Krishna also wanted to kill Ghatotkacha anyway because the latter hated brahmins and sacrifices, which meant he was "evil in his soul". I do not recall this point of characterization coming up earlier.

So anyway they ended up just not leaving the battlefield all night. In chapter 1136, Arjuna suggested everybody sleep for a while right there, and surprisingly, everybody did. But it didn't last long since the moon made it bright again and the sun rose in chpter 1139 (page 442).

In chapter 1141 (page 454), Krishna says that they need to kill Drona immediately and suggests tricking him. Drona would stop trying so hard if his son Ashvatthama died, so Bhima kills an elephant with the same name and declares that Ashvatthama is dead. They also get Yudhishthira to back up the ruse even though Arjuna was against this.

Drona's death came about a little weird. A bunch of famous sages came back from the afterlife(!) to tell Drona that he should just stop fighting because he's not following dharma anymore. In chapter 1142, Bhima criticizes Drona for not following brahmin lifestyle, specifically mentioning that Drona did all this for his wife and his son, who is like totally dead now.

So Drona decides to just put down his weapons, which Dhristadyumna took as an opportunity to kill him. But also there was a flash of light because Drona ascended to heaven...? But most people didn't realize what happened.

Ashvatthama finds out from Kripa that his father died because of trickery (I am not sure how Kripa heard the conversations), which sets up the next section.

So like, he decides to just wipe out th Pandava army using the narayana weapon. Apparently he knows how to do this because Narayana visited his family once. There sure were multiple Vishnu avatars running around in this time period.

Narayanastra can't be used to kill somebody who's stopped fighting, so Krishna tells everyone to drop their weapons and get down from their mounts or vehicles. Unfortunately Bhima disagrees so Krishna and Arjuna had to like drag him down.

So after that didn't work, Ashvatthama tries the agneya weapon, which Arjuna counters with Brahmastra. But Ashvatthama still managed to kill a whole akshauhini of soldiers with it.

For some reason Vyasa shows up and tells Ashvatthama about how Narayana (Vishnu) met Shiva and was granted super innvincibility or something. Shiva is described as the supreme being in a way similar but not quite like how Vishnu was during the Gita. He's called "the lord who is the creator of the universe" in page 500 for example.

In chapter 1150, Arjuna asks Vyasa about a mysterious being that routed the Kaurava army but made it seem like Arjuna himself was responsible (though he doesn't say that this being actually killed them). Vyasa says this was Shiva.

Yeah the last few scenes sure were something.

I might talk about some smaller, possibly less important details about these sections soon. Not sure when I'll start volume 7.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 26 October 2019 - 06:30 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2019 - 06:41 PM

It's like a modern action movie where they come up with all the big emotional scenes first and then a plot that loosely connects them, leading to an amorphous continuity that changes as a specific scene calls for it.



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Posted 27 October 2019 - 06:25 AM

You've said something similar before and I'll say this again:

The 100 sections all have plot points as their actual titles and the start of the story goes through each one.

Besides that, the section titles don't seem to vary across regional versions, so these plot points must have been set in stone early enough in the epic's development. The translator even insists that dividing the story into 100 sections even predates splitting it into 18 books.

So hey, minor details:

There's some more ridiculous statements of power levels while Krishna talks about Jarasandha and Ekalavya in chapter 1133. Apparently Jarasandha had a club that was super special or something and that if it wasn't destroyed earlier by Balarama, he would've been too powerful for even Indra and the gods. He already lost the club by the time he fought Bhima, it seems.

Krishna also says that if Ekalavya didn't cut off his thumb, "the gods and the danavas, with the rakshasas and the serpents, would never have been able to defeat him in a battle". Ekalavya did match Arjuna's archery skills when they were kids but I don't recall anything suggesting that he would've grown like, cosmically powerful.

In chapter 1135, Sanjaya says that the Kaurava side tried to remind Karna to only use Indra's spear on Arjuna, but they always forgot when they start fighting the next day.

Pashupata is listed among the weapons Drona used that were countered by Arjuna in page 448. There was no further description of it, unfortunately.

Duryodhana and Satyaki fight in chapter 1141 and they seem to have some history together. The narration in page 451 says that they "remembered all their childhood deeds and felt affectionate towards each other". The translator thinks the two of them might have trained together under Balarama.

It's mentioned a few times that Drona died at the age of 85. Buuut a while earlier it's mentioned that Ashvatthama is older than Duryodhana, and considering that the latter is older than Arjuna, and that the Pandavas were in their sixties at this point, I have to wonder at what age Drona had his son.

In chapter 1144, Arjuna criticizes the others for how they killed Drona. Bhima snaps back at Arjuna for suddenly being against the kshatriya lifestyle that he was supposed to be all about, and Dhrishtadyumna defends himself, saying that killing their enemies is a thing they're supposed to do. Satyaki gets angry at Dhrishtadyumna and tries to fight, so Krishna gets Bhima and Sahadeva to restrain those two.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 27 October 2019 - 06:35 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2019 - 08:51 AM

"through his yoga"

KILLER YOGA... sounds like a Lifetime movie.

"hated [...] sacrifices, which meant he was "evil in his soul""

I like how hard-line characters in this can be.

" so Bhima kills an elephant with the same name and declares that Ashvatthama is dead"

They really need some fact-checkers.

"But also there was a flash of light because Drona ascended to heaven...?"

I'm not even sure how this works. He's tricked, stripped of everything, tricked some more... and then it works out?

"because Narayana visited his family once"

"Uncle N came over literally one time on my birthday and we spent all day upgrading my Narayana Weapon Skill stat. It makes sense okay!"

"There sure were multiple Vishnu avatars running around in this time period."

Mahabharata 4koma Theater when.

"Ashvatthama tries the agneya weapon,"

He sure has a lot of random, powerful nonsense.

"Everybody is super powerful except for these nerfs that happened at some point before it was even important." Got it.


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Posted 27 October 2019 - 09:00 AM

You've said something similar before and I'll say this again:

Maybe it's just me but the tone of your review comes across as "Look at all these plot holes and inconsistencies". If that's not what you're saying then I apologise.



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Posted 27 October 2019 - 11:40 AM

I was under the impression that it's all very grand and ridiculous and therefore fun, rather than taking a critical look at it.


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Posted 27 October 2019 - 12:11 PM

There's a lot of inconsistencies but the major plot events that provide each section's title (for the most recent ones it's Ghatotkacha getting killed, Drona getting killed right after, and then escaping from Narayanastra) don't get contradicted and overall seem like they must be from early in the epic's development.

I'm not even sure how this works. He's tricked, stripped of everything, tricked some more... and then it works out?


He puts down his weapons on his own volition and left for Brahma's world along with the famous dead sages. I get the sense that it was a "know what? I don't have to deal with this anymore" moment, but maybe that's not quite right.

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Posted 28 October 2019 - 09:45 AM

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This is such Kino energy.

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Posted 29 October 2019 - 11:58 AM

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Warship Girls R's Akagi looks like a midpoint between her Kancolle and Azur Lane versions.

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I wonder if this means I can predict what ships with versions in only two will look like when they get added to whichever game doesn't have them yet.

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Posted 29 October 2019 - 12:03 PM

This doesn't sound like very solid math but sure!


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Posted 30 October 2019 - 06:00 AM

For the Tokyo 7th Sisters side-episode that's supposed to focus on Fuchigami Mai one, we're getting an ED by Nicole?

 

Seems like it's becoming yet another big girl group franchise that is slowly taken over by a Nicole...


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Posted 01 November 2019 - 08:25 AM

 

This character's name is literally an all caps YOU, which makes it sound like she's suppose to represent the player, but I know that's not the case because that's what Gran and Djeeta are for.



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Posted 05 November 2019 - 02:21 AM

I found something titled Battleship Girl, which predates Kancolle.

The character on that first cover seems to be Yamato, which just feels like trying too hard to seem cool for a ship that didn't do much in combat.

Conversely, art for the Toji no Miko Kancolle one seems to head further and further in the other direction.

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 07:10 PM

Speaking of boat girls:



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Posted 05 November 2019 - 10:38 PM

So there's a Pieter Bruegel in this thing I mentioned a while baack.

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Bruegel as in

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Posted 05 November 2019 - 11:59 PM

I really want to see gameplay videos of this now.


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Posted 06 November 2019 - 07:49 AM

Because of Symphogear, I keep thinking that a girl based on the guy who painted the Tower of Babel should be the main villain.







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