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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#61 Kup

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 06:22 AM

Hey Fox, 2006 called and wants its movie back.
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Posted 27 September 2018 - 07:09 AM

No one bothered to post the actual trailer?

 

Well here it is.

 


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 07:25 AM

Who are the other 2 mutants standing with Magneto and Beast in that one shot?


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 07:27 AM

Who are the other 2 mutants standing with Magneto and Beast in that one shot?

 

based on how FOX treats any mutant that isn't Wolverine... Dead Meat 1 & 2.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 08:04 AM

 

Who are the other 2 mutants standing with Magneto and Beast in that one shot?

 

based on how FOX treats any mutant that isn't Wolverine... Dead Meat 1 & 2.

 

 

Probably someone who is already in another movie or series and has no connection to the version presented here.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:41 AM

These films really should have concluded with Logan. Despite what has been said, it's a definitive end of that universe, even counting the notion that it's intended to be seperate. Those movies have always cared more about Wolverine, him ending it makes sense.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 11:42 AM

Who are the other 2 mutants standing with Magneto and Beast in that one shot?

According to the wiki page, the girl is supposedly Selene/Black Queen and the guy is Red Lotus.

 

Yep, more Hellfire Club members.

 

Also Jessica Chastain is in an unknown role, apparently an alien. Rumors said she was Lilandra, trying to manipulate the Phoenix.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 01:08 PM

Finally, just what everyone was clamoring for: A Last Stand remake.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 02:06 PM

well at least Mr. Sinister is safe until the mcu series starts



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Posted 27 September 2018 - 02:26 PM

Yeah, that's about the only good thing. Sinister would be a pretty awesome MCu villian if done right.


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 05:15 PM

Would Sam Neil be too old for Sinister when the MCU X-Men roll around? Because i've aleays liked the idea of him as Sinister.

As for this movie? I can't muster any enthusiasm or interest. Last Stand may have been made with some really bad choices. But Famke Janssen was awesome. I just think she mad a really good Jean Grey.

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 05:16 PM

Would Sam Neil be too old for Sinister when the MCU X-Men roll around? Because i've aleays liked the idea of him as Sinister.

 

Ah man. Now I'm thinking of Event Horizon, and I wholeheartedly agree with the idea completely.



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Posted 27 September 2018 - 06:24 PM

So that trailer made it look less like the Phoenix corrupting Jean or driving her mad and more like it actually being Jean being majorly pissed off at Xavier and doing all this of her own volition.

Way to totally hug that one up! Even Last Stand was able to get that much right!

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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:03 PM

>_> except that's exactly what happened in Last stand 



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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:16 PM

sorry, I got so distracted by what Caldwin said that I ran to youtube to see if I'd actually forgot there being some space anything in X3 ... so I forgot to add my voice in support of Sam for Sinister. 



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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:42 PM

Would Sam Neil be too old for Sinister when the MCU X-Men roll around? Because i've aleays liked the idea of him as Sinister.
 

 

Considering Sinister's more or less immortal, I think the actor's age doesn't have to be a major factor. Especially not with the make-up and the de-ageing effects they have nowadays. So yeah, I too think he'd be a good choice. Hell they could even go the Thanos route and have Sinister be mostly CGI with Neil just having to be voice and body actor considering Sinister doesn't have to be a particularly 'active' as he's not usually a fighter. 


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Posted 27 September 2018 - 09:51 PM

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he could for sure pull of the grin 



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Posted 28 September 2018 - 04:36 AM

Exactly Dee! :)

>_> except that's exactly what happened in Last stand

Thats true to a point.

But at least Last Stand got some build up to Jean being Super super powered. Being zapped in X1 having an effect, that pushed her powers up in X2. A hint of Pheonix with her eyes, the holding of the water and her apparent death. The firebird in the water. Yeah, Last Stand copped out and tried to flub it out as her being uber special from the start and Charles locking away her powers in a poor mans version of the comics, which creates an alternate personality? Yeah that was not good.

Yet i could still see her character and Famkes performance as this alien force that is connected to Jean and absolutely reveling in its power!

Apocalypse on the other hand throws us Sansa Stark being mopey and then busting out firebird powers because...reasons. Now this trailer says 'hey she was there all along' and now shes uber special and evil because...we're redoing Last Stand only worse.

Also, if Jessica Chastain does turn out to be Lilandra...and evil. Ugh, way to miss the point again eh Fox?

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Posted 28 September 2018 - 05:10 AM

Being zapped in X1 having an effect

 

 

 

What? Have I missed something for 18 years?



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Posted 28 September 2018 - 05:14 AM

When she used Cerebro, I’m assuming.

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