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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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#1 Maruten

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:21 PM

I obviously fell behind on the news here, because I did not expect this movie to ever actually exist.



Alita herself looks fairly ungreat I think, the others less so maybe. I don't have high hopes, but I have to admit the trailer smashed me in the nostalgia glands.

Edited by Maruten, 09 December 2017 - 02:45 AM.

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#2 Teufel

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:24 PM

That's been in development hell for so long and by the looks of this it should've stayed there.

 

Those eyes are going to haunt my nightmares.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:04 PM

Alita is definitely looking to be the new standard bearer for uncanny valley CG humans but I'm still kind of intrigued by this. More than I thought I would anyways. I started reading the manga with the recent re-release and fell in love with it almost immediately.

 

Shame they're probably going to have to tone down the violence to get it to a PG-13 though.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:24 PM

EITHER GO FULL CGI OR NOT!  NONE OF THIS IN BETWEEN CRAP!

 

Ironbite-it's like I'm back in the Star Wars prequels 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:27 PM

At least the uncanny effect is intentional. And it's not a subtle story, Hollywood can handle this one. 

 

It'll bomb and probably have it coming, but. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:41 PM

Yeah it's weird. I'm usually not bothered by the uncanny valley but Alita hits it for me hard. Which feels especially strange since it looks to be intentional. It's like, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I'm simultaneously disgusted and impressed.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:05 PM

Very surprised, pleasantly so, that this is happening.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:14 PM

"I'm not completely human" O_O

 

Gee, ya don't hugging say?

 

I'm intrigued.  I know exactly nothing about the source material, but I do like me some robo/cyborg/things.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:30 PM

I wish James Cameron would invest some time in getting The Abyss and True Lies released on a format newer than DVD... between this and his 15 or whatever Avatar sequels it seems like it'll never happen.

 

The recent 4K edition of Terminator 2 has been something of a disaster, too.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:38 PM

ive never seen any anime or read any manga from this so im "meh". do love me some jennifer connelly though


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:44 PM

I love, Love, LOVE the anime.
All time favorite of mine back in the mid nineties. Shame that they stopped making anime just a few short years later. ;)

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:01 AM

Uggh.  It looks like they just dropped a Pixar model in a live-action world.  Trying to watch it makes my brain cry "DO NOT WANT!"


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:03 AM

The original, in both media, is a great classic of a bygone era, a sparkling gem in a sea of bland cyberpunk nonsense. Do they still make bland cyberpunk nonsense? I almost miss it. Back in the olden days, you took whatever shitty anime you could find and you were grateful for it.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:31 AM

I'm over the moon about this. 



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 02:54 AM

Uggh.  It looks like they just dropped a Pixar model in a live-action world.  Trying to watch it makes my brain cry "DO NOT WANT!"

She's a living doll. I mean, not literally, but that's what the visuals are meant to tell you. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works over the course of the movie. 

 

"I'm not completely human" O_O

 

Gee, ya don't hugging say?

 

I'm intrigued.  I know exactly nothing about the source material, but I do like me some robo/cyborg/things.

Yeah, in the original, she just has a specially prepared human brain. It's technically more extreme than GitS, her brain is like ... plasticized, and she doesn't have any normal organic functions. (So that line struck me a bit odd, too, you're like ... 1% human there, dearie. And like Johansson's Major, doesn't remember being otherwise IIRC.)


Edited by Copper Bezel, 09 December 2017 - 02:55 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:01 AM

Woo, another Asian property with white actors.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:45 AM

Do they still make bland cyberpunk nonsense?


Trailers for the recent Cutie Honey movie made it look like an overly-serious attempt at cyberpunk rather than a violent fashion parade, though I don't know how the actual movie is.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:47 AM

Woo, another Asian property with white actors.

Well, the setting for the story IS North America...


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 05:58 AM

Right, but they've explicitly changed main Japanese character Daisuke Ido into a white dude named Dyson Ido, so uh...


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 06:14 AM

About which no one would care if it wasn't a manga in the first place, particularly when they are being explicit about the change. I know it's easier to find opportunities where an Asian actor "should" have been cast but wasn't, vs. cases where Asian actors "could" be cast but aren't, but the problem and the responsibility relating to Asian actors in American film is not an anime adaptation problem, it's industry-wide.

 

I'm not going to say it wouldn't be nice and preferable to have a Japanese actor playing a role like this specifically - it should realistically be easy to manage when he's not the biggest face on the poster, and it would be somehow broadly satisfying to have a character who is on the surface a guide and mentor figure be from the nation of origin of the story. But it wouldn't be the most important feature of the film going either way. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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