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@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.

@  Trpodeca : (17 May 2019 - 11:09 PM)

I voted. Boy there are a worrying amount of parties which sound like fascists.

@  Pennpenn : (17 May 2019 - 06:55 PM)

For those in Australia, it is a federal election today. Go Vote! It's Mandatory!

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2019 - 04:19 PM)

Humor? I 'ardly know 'or!

@  wonko the sane? : (17 May 2019 - 03:51 PM)

I was intemately familiar with humour... but she just wanted to be friends...

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 May 2019 - 12:10 PM)

BZT Time out! Time out! Time ooooooouuuuuut!!!

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 08:23 AM)

Yes. Are you familiar with humor?

@  Sabrblade : (17 May 2019 - 07:50 AM)

You are familiar with The Room, yes?

@  unluckiness : (17 May 2019 - 01:14 AM)

nah, tuxedos are formal wear

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 10:38 PM)

*...while dressed in a tuxedo*

@  unluckiness : (16 May 2019 - 09:22 PM)

*casually tosses kryptonite island at Lex*

@  Sean Whitmore : (16 May 2019 - 06:21 PM)

O hai Lex.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:31 PM)

You're just a little chicken! Cheep cheepcheep cheeEeeeEEEeeeep!

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2019 - 04:20 PM)

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 04:14 PM)

So I guess I shouldn't try to tie in The Room.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 May 2019 - 02:29 PM)

I was just talking cheesy in a dated filmmaking sense, not mind-bogglingly god-awful.

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Well, certainly The Last Airbender is worse at being a Superman movie.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 May 2019 - 11:31 AM)

Is that better or worse than The Last Airbender? I mean, they're both terrible, but....

@  RichardT1977 : (16 May 2019 - 09:28 AM)

And the worst Superman movie is "Dragonball: Evolution".

@  Paladin : (16 May 2019 - 08:01 AM)

the best Superman movie is "The Iron Giant." You cannot convince me otherwise.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 10:16 PM)

At least even in the first Christopher Reeve movie, when he caught Lois that first time, the background kept scrolling down for a second to indicate it wasn't a sudden stop.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 10:10 PM)

I guess you had to have been there. I did like the beginning a lot, though; the stuff on Krypton and in Smallville. The movie just got so cheesy once it got to Metropolis, though, it's kind of painful

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 May 2019 - 06:25 PM)

The performances, the cinematography, the significance of a comic book adaptation being treated like a real movie. Silly stuff like that. :)

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 05:17 PM)

Yeah, I've never really understood what people loved so much about it. Other than the score, of course, which was one of Williams' finest

@  Paladin : (15 May 2019 - 04:06 PM)

and it's not even the dumbest part in that movie.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 May 2019 - 03:16 PM)

Flying Lois around was fine; it was all the Can You Read My Mind nonsense that ruined the scene

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2019 - 12:08 PM)

The recent Shazam! movie had Billy bumbling his way through learning his powers. But all or most of it was genuinely funny.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:27 AM)

But yeah, in retrospect it makes me cringe the way he caught and carried the helicopter in his public debut in the first film...

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

(she wasn't in III long enough to be flown around)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 May 2019 - 11:25 AM)

You mean the Donner movie, the Donner/Lester movie, and The Quest for Peace (for which I don't know the director)?

@  unluckiness : (15 May 2019 - 11:09 AM)

At least he didn't try to fly lois around like in the Donner movies.

@  Cybersnark : (15 May 2019 - 10:45 AM)

My favourite is still from the first episode of the 90s Superman animated series, where Clark initially tries to catch the falling plane by its tail... which snaps off in his hands because physics doesn't work that way.

@  MEDdMI : (15 May 2019 - 09:46 AM)

I think it'd be boring if a hero could use their powers perfectly right off the bat and not have any unforseen consequences (though I also don't keep up with a lot of superhero stuff, so not familiar with those scenes)

@  Dekafox : (15 May 2019 - 09:23 AM)

Overseas, Kamen Rider Gaim did something similar after Kouta(the main character) got his transformation belt. He tried to do a whole bunch of mundane things with it cause he thought it'd make him better at them and they all go horribly wrong.


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#1 Maruten

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:21 PM

I obviously fell behind on the news here, because I did not expect this movie to ever actually exist.



Alita herself looks fairly ungreat I think, the others less so maybe. I don't have high hopes, but I have to admit the trailer smashed me in the nostalgia glands.

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#2 Teufel

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:24 PM

That's been in development hell for so long and by the looks of this it should've stayed there.

 

Those eyes are going to haunt my nightmares.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:04 PM

Alita is definitely looking to be the new standard bearer for uncanny valley CG humans but I'm still kind of intrigued by this. More than I thought I would anyways. I started reading the manga with the recent re-release and fell in love with it almost immediately.

 

Shame they're probably going to have to tone down the violence to get it to a PG-13 though.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:24 PM

EITHER GO FULL CGI OR NOT!  NONE OF THIS IN BETWEEN CRAP!

 

Ironbite-it's like I'm back in the Star Wars prequels 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:27 PM

At least the uncanny effect is intentional. And it's not a subtle story, Hollywood can handle this one. 

 

It'll bomb and probably have it coming, but. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:41 PM

Yeah it's weird. I'm usually not bothered by the uncanny valley but Alita hits it for me hard. Which feels especially strange since it looks to be intentional. It's like, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I'm simultaneously disgusted and impressed.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:05 PM

Very surprised, pleasantly so, that this is happening.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:14 PM

"I'm not completely human" O_O

 

Gee, ya don't hugging say?

 

I'm intrigued.  I know exactly nothing about the source material, but I do like me some robo/cyborg/things.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:30 PM

I wish James Cameron would invest some time in getting The Abyss and True Lies released on a format newer than DVD... between this and his 15 or whatever Avatar sequels it seems like it'll never happen.

 

The recent 4K edition of Terminator 2 has been something of a disaster, too.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:38 PM

ive never seen any anime or read any manga from this so im "meh". do love me some jennifer connelly though


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 11:44 PM

I love, Love, LOVE the anime.
All time favorite of mine back in the mid nineties. Shame that they stopped making anime just a few short years later. ;)

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:01 AM

Uggh.  It looks like they just dropped a Pixar model in a live-action world.  Trying to watch it makes my brain cry "DO NOT WANT!"


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:03 AM

The original, in both media, is a great classic of a bygone era, a sparkling gem in a sea of bland cyberpunk nonsense. Do they still make bland cyberpunk nonsense? I almost miss it. Back in the olden days, you took whatever shitty anime you could find and you were grateful for it.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:31 AM

I'm over the moon about this. 



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 02:54 AM

Uggh.  It looks like they just dropped a Pixar model in a live-action world.  Trying to watch it makes my brain cry "DO NOT WANT!"

She's a living doll. I mean, not literally, but that's what the visuals are meant to tell you. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works over the course of the movie. 

 

"I'm not completely human" O_O

 

Gee, ya don't hugging say?

 

I'm intrigued.  I know exactly nothing about the source material, but I do like me some robo/cyborg/things.

Yeah, in the original, she just has a specially prepared human brain. It's technically more extreme than GitS, her brain is like ... plasticized, and she doesn't have any normal organic functions. (So that line struck me a bit odd, too, you're like ... 1% human there, dearie. And like Johansson's Major, doesn't remember being otherwise IIRC.)


Edited by Copper Bezel, 09 December 2017 - 02:55 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:01 AM

Woo, another Asian property with white actors.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:45 AM

Do they still make bland cyberpunk nonsense?


Trailers for the recent Cutie Honey movie made it look like an overly-serious attempt at cyberpunk rather than a violent fashion parade, though I don't know how the actual movie is.

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:47 AM

Woo, another Asian property with white actors.

Well, the setting for the story IS North America...


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 05:58 AM

Right, but they've explicitly changed main Japanese character Daisuke Ido into a white dude named Dyson Ido, so uh...


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 06:14 AM

About which no one would care if it wasn't a manga in the first place, particularly when they are being explicit about the change. I know it's easier to find opportunities where an Asian actor "should" have been cast but wasn't, vs. cases where Asian actors "could" be cast but aren't, but the problem and the responsibility relating to Asian actors in American film is not an anime adaptation problem, it's industry-wide.

 

I'm not going to say it wouldn't be nice and preferable to have a Japanese actor playing a role like this specifically - it should realistically be easy to manage when he's not the biggest face on the poster, and it would be somehow broadly satisfying to have a character who is on the surface a guide and mentor figure be from the nation of origin of the story. But it wouldn't be the most important feature of the film going either way. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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