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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#1 Teufel

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:08 PM

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Earlier this week, news broke that Pulp Fiction filmmaker Quentin Tarantino would be joining the Star Trek franchise via an idea he pitched to J.J. Abrams. The news sounded almost too strange to be true, and that perhaps any moment we’d learn a mistake had been made. But now even more details about Tarantino’s Star Trek have arrived, including the revelation that the film will be R-Rated, per Tarantino’s stipulations. In addition to this news, The Revenant writer Mark L. Smith has emerged as the frontrunner to pen the script.

 

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Earlier this week, it was reported that Tarantino has pitched an idea for an R-rated Star Trek movie, with an eye to direct. Now, one of the series’ most iconic captains is weighing in on the possibility — and whether Jean-Luc Picard may make an appearance.

 

“People are always saying to me, ‘Will you be Jean-Luc Picard again?’ And I cannot think that would be possible, but there are ways in which something like that might come about,” Stewart told The Hollywood Reporter at the Dubai International Film Festival. “But one of my dreams is to work with Tarantino. I admire his work so much and to be in a Tarantino film would give me so much satisfaction. So, if he is going to direct something to do with Star Trek and there was the possibility of dear old Jean-Luc showing up again and doing that for Mr. Tarantino, I would embrace it.”

 

Hell yes!

 

Can't wait for Samuel L. Jackson to have been in both Star Wars and Trek.

 

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:27 PM

If it gets us more Picard, I'm totally on board with it. 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:37 PM

oh hug no



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 04:43 PM

Well now. This could be interesting.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 05:57 PM



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:42 PM

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:44 PM

LMAO. I'm genuinely enjoying the divisive reaction this is getting from one post to another.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 06:57 PM

Yeah, I've been a Tarantino fan for a couple of decades now, and a Star Trek (well, TOS and TNG) fan for longer, so this seems pretty great to me. Injecting a real auteur filmmaker into what is now a by-the-numbers franchise is an exciting experiment. I love the idea that Tarantino has to work within the constraints of an existing sandbox, and I love the idea that a Star Trek movie will be created by someone with a completely unique and seemingly incongruent creative vision. Whatever else this turns out to be, it's going to be fascinating.

 

Also, Patrick Stewart would love to work with Tarantino and would return as Picard to do it, so um yes please.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:17 PM

For real. I may not like every Tarantino film, but I like Tarantino's directorial style and I think that unique vision would give Trek a much needed shot in the arm when it came to storytelling.

 

At the very least, we'll be treated to a film that isn't trying to re-create Wrath of Khan beat for beat.



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:24 PM

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:29 PM

Yeah, I've been a Tarantino fan for a couple of decades now, and a Star Trek (well, TOS and TNG) fan for longer, so this seems pretty great to me. Injecting a real auteur filmmaker into what is now a by-the-numbers franchise is an exciting experiment. 

Yes, this, a thousand times. Star Trek and Tarantino are both wonderful things, it's almost impossible for me to imagine the two intersecting, and yet it's guaranteed to challenge them both in interesting ways. And they're both established brands that don't honestly have a lot to lose if the experiment doesn't pan. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:41 PM

Yeah Tarantino is about as ill-suited to Star Trek as Michael Bay is to Doctor Who.


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:47 PM

Are you kidding? Michael Bay's Doctor Who would be incredible!
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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:48 PM

Um but Tarantino is good though? Bay is ill-suited to everything because he doesn't make movies. Whether you're a fan or not, the thing that Tarantino does, he does very well.

 

Edit: And yes, I recognize that there's a thing Bay does, and that he also does that thing very well, too. But it's a thing that very infamously does not translate into a cohesive product as a film. So it's not a very appropriate comparison, even as hyperbole (since the part that does line up ... isn't an exaggeration.) 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 08 December 2017 - 09:00 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:01 PM

Bay is ill-suited to everything because he doesn't make movies.

The Rock and Bad Boys aren't movies? Just because he ruined forever all your childhoods or whatever the cry is nowadays?
 
Hell have you even watched Pain & Gain?
 
The Transformers films are as they are because that is what people going in to see "Transformers" will want to see. Lots of kasplodey and over the topness. MTMTE-style minutae isn't going to pack the theatres.
 

Whether you're a fan or not, the thing that Tarantino does, he does very well.

Ok but because you're not a fan you get to be dismissive of another director?

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:05 PM

I grew up watching Tarantino. I grew up watching Star Trek. While I had no interest in the Abrams era and haven't watched those flicks I've still loved Tarantino's recent work. So for me it's all upside. I'm not invested in Star Trek anymore so if he crashes and burns like a separated saucer making an emergency landing - no loss.

 

And Tarantino's got such a filmography that the jokes are endless.

 

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Alien Babe: "I'd hug Kirk."

Clarence: "Really?"

Alien Babe: "Well, when he was alive. Not now."

Clarence: "Well, I don't blame you. So... so we'd both hug Kirk."



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:11 PM

To put my reaction in another way...

 



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:15 PM

The Rock and Bad Boys aren't movies? Just because he ruined forever all your childhoods or whatever the cry is nowadays?

 
Hell have you even watched Pain & Gain?
 
The Transformers films are as they are because that is what people going in to see "Transformers" will want to see. Lots of kasplodey and over the topness. MTMTE-style minutae isn't going to pack the theatres.

 

Oh, so you weren't implying "lol bayformers, now do my little pony with moar explosions" with the Doctor Who comment, and just hadn't considered that that would be the inevitable way it would be read? So many layers of nuance and careful consideration I missed in your quippy one-line dismissal. It sure isn't like Bay has an established track record for approaching franchise properties and Tarantino doesn't. I eagerly await your measured insights into why Tarantino is unlikely to be successful in a one-off franchise property experiment that can't help being a Shin Godzilla-like "what if this franchise itself existed in an alternate universe" on the face of it.

 

Edit: More seriously, I don't see any productive direction for this line of argument and don't intend to continue it, but that's at least in part because, you know, I didn't see a productive direction for discussion from the original line of objection, either. Tarantino is definitely not going to ruin any more childhoods with this experiment than Bay has with his franchise. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 08 December 2017 - 09:31 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 09:36 PM

Oh, so you weren't implying "lol bayformers, now do my little pony with moar explosions" with the Doctor Who comment

Nope.

Just that Bay does visual spectacles that revel in excess, which isn't what Doctor Who is about.

Tarantino apes 70s movie stylings, uses the f-word a lot and has that scene where two people have a chat while one bleeds to death, and that's not what Star Trek's about.

 

 

It sure isn't like Bay has an established track record for approaching franchise properties and Tarantino doesn't.

No but Bay's definitely shown a lot more flexibility in his film career and Tarantino just... does the same. And the same. And the same.


You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 




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