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@  Sabrblade : (29 November 2020 - 05:11 PM)

Also, the face of the black redeco is painted gray.

@  Sabrblade : (29 November 2020 - 05:09 PM)

To be a little fair, the original was also lacking in more detailed color. The Telemocha Series figure fixed that.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2020 - 05:05 PM)

The unpainted face and all the greys make that look like a knockoff.

@  Sabrblade : (29 November 2020 - 05:01 PM)

One could headcanon this one as such.

@  Otaku : (29 November 2020 - 01:06 PM)

@Bass X0 Weird how they come close, with the likes of Onyx Primal and Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003), but no actual evil gorilla...

@  wonko the sane? : (28 November 2020 - 03:00 PM)

Oh my god! WFC ravage is adorable! Who's a pudgy kitty? Yes you are!

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 November 2020 - 09:50 AM)

The 86 line prevented made me reconsider a new years resolution.

@  unluckiness : (28 November 2020 - 04:33 AM)

And Devastator because I'm a sucker for combiners

@  unluckiness : (28 November 2020 - 04:32 AM)

Decided to stick with the main cast from 2007 and a few assorted ones here and there.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 November 2020 - 02:02 PM)

I said I wouldn't buy a lot, now I have seven. And at least three might be on the culling pile.

@  Maximus Ambus : (27 November 2020 - 11:44 AM)

"I'll just get one" I said now I have almost twenty Studio Series figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 November 2020 - 11:19 AM)

The geese are fleeing... death comes soon...

@  unluckiness : (25 November 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Not even head, just a faceeven

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2020 - 12:58 PM)

Just stick a Megatron head on Optimal Optimus.

@  Sabrblade : (25 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

There was also an evil-looking black and gray redeco of the RobotMasters toy

@  Arazyr : (25 November 2020 - 11:54 AM)

That's KIND-OF what I consider the Throne of the Primes Primal to be...

@  wonko the sane? : (25 November 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I would buy the hell out a nemesis primal...

@  Bass X0 : (25 November 2020 - 11:15 AM)

I'm surprised there's not been a Nemesis Primal given all the Nemesis Primes.

@  unluckiness : (23 November 2020 - 03:17 AM)

The real Drifts were the Windblades we made along the way

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 November 2020 - 02:25 AM)

Drift-kun 2 Electric Boobylube

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 November 2020 - 11:36 PM)

I'm pretty sure Drift 2 was Empire of Stone.

@  Sabrblade : (22 November 2020 - 10:06 PM)

I thought people said Prime Wheeljack was Drift 2.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 03:51 PM)

Windblade was Drift.2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 02:44 PM)

Drift with boobs.

@  Rycochet : (22 November 2020 - 11:50 AM)

I can't imagine a live action movie version of Windblade being all that different from Drift. Not my thing, but not the worst thing I've ever seen.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 09:54 AM)

The thought of Movie aesthetic Windblade makes me feel sick.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:47 AM)

Though, the fact that Japanese people would pay for Windblade toys in the $30-40 range doesn't mean they'd pay however much MPs are going for now.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 November 2020 - 08:44 AM)

Back when I made a habit of checking Mandarake for pre-owned TFs, Windblade's toys went for surprisingly high prices. By which I mean not lower than the original price.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 November 2020 - 08:15 AM)

If she's in the next movie you might get her.

@  unluckiness : (22 November 2020 - 07:58 AM)

Japan didn't get most of the IDW comics and are the target market for MP. They basically know windblade from a few crappy pack-in comics and a show that wasn't particularly popular there. Unless they start cranking out Cyberverse MPs, it's not very likely.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 November 2020 - 04:24 AM)

Again, depends if she's popular enough in Japan to warrant it. Our view of which characters are popular is not the same as Takara's.

@  Bass X0 : (22 November 2020 - 01:53 AM)

So characters like Windblade then.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 07:19 PM)

They're complicated and expensive to design. By necessity, they're gonna be restricted to well-known characters who are more likely to sell.

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 07:05 PM)

I don’t think Masterpiece toys should be restricted to only show characters.

@  Rycochet : (21 November 2020 - 03:09 PM)

If she wasn't in the Sunbow cartoon, Live Action movie or Beast Wars and can't be repainted from someone else, she's not getting an MP.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 November 2020 - 12:44 PM)

They'll make their money back if they include the metal thong...

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 November 2020 - 12:29 PM)

Is she popular enough in Japan that Takara would even try?

@  Paladin : (21 November 2020 - 11:23 AM)

depends. will that one also have a giant metal thong?

@  Bass X0 : (21 November 2020 - 11:10 AM)

Should there be a Masterpiece Windblade?

@  -LittleAutob... : (20 November 2020 - 12:46 PM)

EIGHT WORDS! THATS A RECORD! XD

@  wonko the sane? : (20 November 2020 - 09:08 AM)

So you were hired by a middle easterner! AHA!

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 November 2020 - 11:45 PM)

that's eight words

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2020 - 03:56 PM)

"I only want to hear one word from you... The name of the guy who hired ya!"

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 November 2020 - 12:41 PM)

It's great how they reference G1 concepts like this one features the harmony from the episode Carnage in C Minor and and Slugslingers featured anti electrons from Grimlocks New Brain.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 November 2020 - 10:01 PM)

Or at least those little story blurbs like Beast Hunters had. Especially for stuff like Selects which tend to exist in their own little side world

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 November 2020 - 04:03 PM)

I got me Legends Soundwave, Be cool if the next Generations toyline had a mini comic with the instructions.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 November 2020 - 03:42 AM)

Aw no unusual activity on my Paypal Ebay, Amazon and Netflix account in one day! All I have to do it verify on those E-Mails and I'm all set..... wait a mo, I'm not on Netflix!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:56 PM)

I swear though.. The idea of "Catch up" is stupid.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2020 - 11:25 PM)

That's irritating, but it sounds par for the course with new hardware release. Within a year, there'll probably be some good stuff out there that does it all.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 November 2020 - 11:23 PM)

4K/HDR switches are.. iffy.. Because most of them can't do 4K and HDR at the same time.. Or can't do 120hz... and all sorts of things the new TVs have built in, and the new consoles use...


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#101 Powered Convoy

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 08:49 AM

I don't like all the colors barfed on top of Offshoot, but man...



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Posted 23 February 2018 - 09:13 AM

A red face would be nice, but I much prefer this to Offshoot.

 

Who looked terrible to me.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 10:49 AM

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:36 PM

I wonder if this Firebolt figure represents a Seiberdroid Firebolt or is Li Shaoshao in Targetmaster armor.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:36 PM

Kazumasa Yasukuni did the art. He / she has done a lot of art for TakaraTomy lately.

また、同日発売のMPターゲットマスターホットロディマスのイラストも担当しております!こちらはトランスフォーマーリバースに登場するロディマスのカラーリングを再現したものとなっております。相棒のターゲットマスター、ファイアーボルトつき!よろしくお願いします〜 #トランスフォーマー pic.twitter.com/QOYynyJR7m— 安國一将(イラストレーター) (@Kazumasa_yskn) February 24, 2018


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:38 PM

I wonder if this Firebolt figure represents a Seiberdroid Firebolt or is Li Shaoshao in Targetmaster armor.

Or it's the Nebulan from the Japanese dub of The Rebirth, given the larger toy's AKOM deco and all.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 11:39 PM

I wonder if this Firebolt figure represents a Seiberdroid Firebolt or is Li Shaoshao in Targetmaster armor.


I'm betting since it's Rebirth Hot Rod, that it is the Nebulon guy. Which isn't my preference.

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:16 AM

I received my Targetmaster Hot Rod yesterday.

 

He's nice certainly.  I don't prefer him to the original version, but the colors are really pretty (though still not better in my opinion).

 

I do wish the orange plastic and orange paint were a bit of a closer match.  It's apparent they're different when comparing his color to his chest.

 

The connection from Firebolt to Hot Rod in car mode is a little annoying, as (and this is shown in the instructions) you have to untransform Firebolt a bit to get him to attach and then recomplete the transformation.

 

One aspect I found interesting of the deco is Hot Rod's waist.  It's actually molded and painted in a brown color rather than the same maroon the rest of the toy has.  Seemingly to match the darker color that was featured on Rodimus' waist.

 

Speaking of this color scheme, was Hot Rod ever in this color scheme?  I recall him always being magenta / pink even in the AKOM animated episodes and not burgundy / maroon?  Sure I'm positive there was some animation errors occasionally, but I think in the AKOM episodes he was even lighter than in the non-AKOM episodes.


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:41 AM

Speaking of this color scheme, was Hot Rod ever in this color scheme? 

In The Rebirth.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:44 AM

Yeah, which is why the MP and Legends Targetmasters use it, because he had it exactly all of the one times he was a Targetmaster.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 27 February 2018 - 08:45 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:46 AM

 

Speaking of this color scheme, was Hot Rod ever in this color scheme? 

In The Rebirth.

 

 

He's still pink in that one too.

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http://tfwiki.net/me...otrod_spins.jpg

 

The layout matches, but he's still pretty pinkish.

 

Doesn't really matter, as he's pretty.  :)


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:47 AM

I begin to wonder if there's some truth to the old stoner neuroscience chestnut that your "burgundy" might not be my "burgundy"

 

Edit: The only "pink" (magenta) on either the toy or the animation model is the inaccurately painted head crest on the toy, which is lighter but not that light in the animation.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 27 February 2018 - 08:49 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 08:59 AM

The Masterpiece figure's deco is just generally messed up.

Even with the outdated colour sheet, I'm pretty sure his shins weren't coloured pale maroon like that. That's Takara getting confused by the incorrect colour grading on the Rebirth DVD again, just like their original grey deco for Legends Kup.

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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:22 AM

Yes, as I observed way back when this figure was introduced, Takara have unbelievably based this figure on the degraded colours of the broadcast master used for the DVD release of "The Rebirth." The colour layout is the same used in all AKOM episodes (white pelvis-windshield, shoulder indentations the same as the rest of his arms, light-and-dark areas of the helmet inverted), but Hot Rod isn't supposed to actually be a different colour in it - he should be the same magenta as normal - but the colour grading is off, and they've translated that completely literally. It's also why his boots are that reddish grey.


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:23 AM

I imagine the darker color is just used because it's close to what Rodimus had, and it makes the release more different than what came previously.


That doesn't explain the boot color of course.

 

Edit: I wonder how it looks on the actual version of Rebirth that Takara released?  Are they sticking to the bad quality coloration because that's what was on their release?


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:27 AM

There's a matter of simple parsimony going on here, Randy. I don't think they independently decided on the burgundy without considering Rebirth, then brought in the boots and crotch after the fact. Certainly not after doing exactly this thing with the Legends version. It's just too many damn steps. The sensible take might be that they chose the Rebirth colors because of Rodimus Prime, but that is what these colors are, no mistaking it.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 27 February 2018 - 09:28 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:31 AM

Good point.

 

One has to wonder why there is such a divergence on the colors of Firebolt since Hot Rod follows the same line of thinking.  Where one is clearly using the colors he has when introducing himself (Legends) while the other uses it in the scene where he's running forward with the others (Masterpiece).

 

I mean it could simply be wanting to represent both color schemes over two releases, or the left hand not knowing what the right is doing.  Since it's possible that different people working on each.


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:33 AM

Yes, as I observed way back when this figure was introduced, Takara have unbelievably based this figure on the degraded colours of the broadcast master used for the DVD release of "The Rebirth." The colour layout is the same used in all AKOM episodes (white pelvis-windshield, shoulder indentations the same as the rest of his arms, light-and-dark areas of the helmet inverted), but Hot Rod isn't supposed to actually be a different colour in it - he should be the same magenta as normal - but the colour grading is off, and they've translated that completely literally. It's also why his boots are that reddish grey.

Going by their Galvatron releases, they might as well be checking against 30 year old VHS tapes at this point.


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Posted 27 February 2018 - 09:47 AM

The Galvatron thing just doesn't make sense.  :puke


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