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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

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Steeeeeeeeve.

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LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:35 PM

It'll never get past Kanto anyway, sadly.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:45 PM

Paras has an appealing design and a sinister inspiration, but being a first-gen Grass type means it's entire battle strategy consists of getting immediately killed then maybe hurling a status ailment that never bothers the opponent anyways.

Plus it's Bug/Grass, which means 4x weakness to fire. Or 5x, if its ability is Dry Skin.

So basically Paras will die to just about any Fire-type attack at all. You could light a candle on the other side of the room and that'd probably kill it.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:55 PM

Don't forget its 4x weakness to ice and flying!

Literally killed by a stiff wind

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:57 PM

Oh, yeah!

Damn, Bug/Grass is a really terrible typing, innit?

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 07:58 PM

It's an atrocious typing all around. You send him out against a Geodude or Onix thinking Absorb can actually be really useful for once, but NOPE. Rock Throw's Super Effective too.

 

Although Leavanny's the same type but can actually do something.

 

Don't forget its 4x weakness to ice and flying!

Literally killed by a stiff wind

Alright, Goldeen! Paras can totally handle a Water type. *Peck* FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:35 PM

Back to Prime stuff. Yay?

 

Evolution
Suddenly, there are dozens of Predacon clones in tanks, rendering the whole fetch quest kinda pointless.
Shockwave claims they are only a few days away from fully... evolving? Either he ascribes to the recapitulation theory, or the writing’s trying real hard to sound better than it is...

 

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There are some interesting Predacon designs scattered about. I like this mantis-y one (Buzzclaw?!?) and the owl-faced dragon. I *think* maybe there was a snake/mermaid kind of beastie, too.

Predaking drops in and reveals he can talk and transform! Even Shockwave is surprised, though he confusingly claims that transforming is a basic trait for all Cybertronian life -and- that he thought the Predacons hadn’t evolved that far yet.
(Huh, linear evolution. I, uh, guess Shockwave does ascribe to recapitulation theory?)

Predaking (who’s name kinda comes across like a title here) is quite thankful for his kind being cloned (which is being treated as “revived”) and pledges loyalty to Megatron... but Megsy is immediately threatened and orders the whole plan scrapped even though he keeps whining about not having many troops left after Thirst. Wow.

Starscream comes up with a scheme to have the Autobots wipe out the Predacons. Naturally, it involves sacrificing several Vehicons... and Shockwave (not really (yes totally!)). Wheeljack and Magnus are the ones to come across the lab and blow it all up, right as Predaking shows up. They fight, and 'King snaps Magnus' hammer and stomps his hand into a pulp. Ouch. Optimus has to come in to save the day and, boy, he is just ridiculously toyetic now, isn’t he? It’s like the Transmetal upgrade in Beast Wars, but only OP got it and over a decade after cartoons stopped being so XTREME!!!


Also, HOOMINS! A whole herd of them just running around at the base! Whoa!

 

Also also, this scene:

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The whole bit with Knock Out descending in a thunderstorm with Predaking in the back roaring... it's all rather striking and dramatic. I quite like it.

 

Minus One
The explosion that killed the Preds somehow made all these metal... things. It’s like a close up of a brillo pad. It apparently can be used to cyberform planets. That’s right, they ditched the whole Beast Hunters thing just to redo the finale to Season Two!

The Cons decide to rebuild the Omega Lock and set off to steal a bunch of stuff from the humans to do so. The Autobots catch up and manage to shoot down and capture Soundwave, and try to make him talk. Ratchet suggest tearing him apart and literally rip the info out of him. WAT. Soundwave does actually talk, but it’s just a taunt (three guesses what the line is!) before taking a robot cyanide pill of sorts. He’s alive, but “crashed.” It takes Laserbeak to reboot him. I do love these bits of quirky alien/robot “biology.”

Soundwave, now back in action, steals Ratchet away...

Random design observation: Soundwave’s drone mode has a visor on it! On the underside of the nosecone.


Persuasion
Shockwave, Predaking, and most of the Autobots go to Antarctica to fight over a supercollider or something. Ultra Magnus breaks in his new claw-hand, and Shockwave, well...

 

"This is no place for a one-handed Autobot.”

You only have one hand, too, you doofus.

The Bots beat him and demand he surrenders, but Shockwave does one of those “leave a sentence open so an ally can barge into the room” type of things (he got his timing PERFECT on that one, heh) and he and Predaking escape with the science thingy in tow.

'King also can turn his hands into guns now. Huh. I wonder where guns fit into robot evolution...

The Decepticons know where the Autobot base is -- Laserbeak simply just followed Fowler there. HOW HAVE THEY NOT DONE THIS BEFORE?

Starscream brings this huge fleet of five whole Vehicons to take on the tiny resistance of just five human jets, and obliterates exactly one building in the entire complex before returning home victorious. But alas, it was all an Autobot trick; they repainted "E" into "F", a detail Starscream took no notice anyways.

........ yeaaaah, that whole scene is just stupid.

The Bots try to locate Ratchet using a chunk of Laserbeak's wing that Smokescreen shot off, which for some reason is trying to get back to the robo... "bird?" Raf apparently just happened to learn the necessary Cybertronian writing to pull the stunt off, and also picked up on some of Ratchet's mannerisms. It’s kinda weird.


Ratchet is taken aboard the Nemesis, where the Cons try to convince him to work on the Omega Lock. This is really where Ratchet’s story was heading, but it's kinda too late now. Like, at the beginning of the season, where the destruction of the lock was raw and Ratch was cut off from the rest of the Bots, that’s when you’d drive in that wedge to pull him to the other side. Here, though, he’s already accepted the loss, happily reunited with his team and the humans, even commending Smokescreen for choosing to save Optimus instead of trying to recreate the Omega Keys -- Ratchet already got the "home is the people not the place" lesson. He’s not making a Faustian deal with Megatron, he’s just trying to make being a prisoner palatable.

 

 

 

Just two episodes and the movie...

And then......... I dunno.*shrug*



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Posted 03 January 2018 - 11:46 PM

And people defend this show
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Posted 04 January 2018 - 12:03 AM

Yeah, I've been looking up old episode discussion threads elsewhere and I'm at a complete loss as to how people keep saying these are the "best episodes ever."

 

Also, a LOT of people kept misspelling the dragon faction as "Predicon"....



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:49 AM

On Paras: The funny thing is, Parasect was actually considered by some to be a semi-decent counter to Mewtwo in Gen 1. Entirely because it was the only thing that learned Spore. This says less about Parasect than it does about how stupidly overpowered Mewtwo was (and still is, really, but now we have dark-types to help).

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 07:19 PM

I had a Parasect with False Swipe + Spore for catching other Pokemon, though Quick Balls made that kinda obsolete.



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Posted 04 January 2018 - 11:54 PM

Synthesis

Ratchet and Shockwave do sciency whatever until Knock Out lets it slip that the whole Predacon killing was a set up. Boy, these Cons are HORRIBLE at deception. Starscream tricked by the base, Megatron straight up tells Ratchet he’s a liar, Soundwave never realizes Laserbeak's been bugged...
Which means now instead of getting to know the Decepticon sides of things, Ratchet goes and ruins their day. He lowers the shield, calls the Autobots in, and tells Predaking what happened to his boys.

'King goes after Megatron and starts beating him with the dead body of a Vehicon! But Megs eventually kicks him out of the airlock... with an assist by Starscream of all people.

Meh.


Although I do like how ridiculous this line is:
"But that's not possible. Laserbeak's right here in Soundwave's torso."


Deadlock
So these last few episodes, the Nemesis has gone from space to in Earth’s atmosphere to space again. We don’t see the ship travel or anything, and there’s not even much time for it to do that "offscreen", it’s just suddenly in a different location.

The Autobots storm the ship and everybody fights and it’s all kinda blah. Arcee ends up tussling Starscream and I’m suddenly reminded how there aren't any rivalries anymore. It’s all just Autobots vs Decepticons, no side battles like Depth Charge vs Rampage or (Animated) 'Bee and Bulk vs "Longarm."

Smokescreen steals away the Star Saber, which seems like it’s supposed to tie into how he wants to be special, but nope. Bumblebee takes it from there and tries to hand it off to Optimus, but Megatron shoots him dead. He actually blows a hole in the poor scout, one of the few times a weapon causes real visible damage (in fact, this scene is sandwiched between Smokescreen getting hit by Shockwave's cannon and Optimus by the Dark Star Saber, and neither of them are damaged that badly). These things vary so wildly it’s impossible to tell how strong anyone or anything is supposed to be.

Not that Bee stays dead. The Omega Lock brings him back to life and even restores his voice, and he up and kills Megatron himself! Which I actually really like. Megs is so utterly focused on Optimus and the various traitors, he doesn’t bother to pay any attention to all the others he’s been trampling over, to his ultimate peril. And poetically, he doesn't even get to say a word after Bee stabs him.
And I do love how acrophobic this whole upside-down Omega Lock battleground is.

Of course, immediately following all this is Starscream being genuinely upset that Megatron died. *sigh* What the hell happened to "aligned with no side, servant to no one" Starscream? I miss him dearly.


Soundwave gets sent to the Shadowzone (it really looks like he got torn in two)
The Autobots restore Cybertron
Knock Out joins their side... and gets decked by Miko for some reason. (oh, she didn’t become a full-fledged Wrecker after all)
Ratchet stays behind on Earth 'cuz why not?
The human cast is recruited into that Unit:E thing that never happened (one wonders how a series that rejected that Binder of Revelation would’ve handled that whole "shared universe" thing anyways)
Predaking makes an obligatory sequel hook

 

 

Christ, this season was hugging awful. Part of why I even re-watched this series was because I thought maybe Season Two poisoned my view of the rest of the show, but no. God no. Somebody elsewhere has said the characters had been reduced to catchphrases, and yeah that's kinda what happened; plus, this Beast Hunters subplot the writers clearly did not give a shit about; plus a redo on the last season finale because god forbid the Autobots lose, I guess.

(it's kinda telling how my silly little sketches went from being observational to just referencing other movies...)

 

 

I might as well finish off with Predacons Rising, but I think I'll have to rewatch Stronger, Faster and Partners just to scrub my mind of all this shit.


Edited by Noideaforaname, 05 January 2018 - 12:00 AM.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:55 PM

Predacons Rising
Is actually kinda OK. Not super amazing, but, well... there’s no real nonsense thrown in, it’s a very concise story about the Bots ('Bee in particular) learning to take care of things without Optimus (mostly), even when all literal hell breaks loose. And as misleading as the title is, the Predacons at least feel part of the story.


More importantly...
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A doodle!! Because Shockwave and Starscream's secret lab is in an amusement park!

 

They’ve made some new Preds, neither of which are as visually interesting as the test tube dragos, or even 'King with his buggy mandibles. Nor do they really do much or make much of an impression. They’re kinda blatantly there because toys.

(Also, there’s a third that never fully 'evolves')

... How much time has passed since Deadlock? It’s impossible to tell.


Unicron revives Megatron and takes over his body, because Dark Energon damns your soul! Good thing Starscream took that chunk out of himself. This is also probably where Airachnid and her insects were supposed to come back in, but who cares? FOSSIL ZOMBIE DRAGON ROBOTS! Unicron's possession also comes with some kind of fancy wormhole travel. It’s another pretty space shot, with Saturn and moons and rainbows reflected all over Megatron (he kinda just randomly switches between shiny and matte a lot, doesn't he?)


Meanwhile, the Autobots have enlisted the help of some Vehicons to help rebuild Cybertron (it doesn’t go so well), while they keep the rest of them and Knock Out in prison. Why? No clue. KO declared himself an Autobot, so....?

Starscream frees the Decepticons later on, and KO eventually turns on him because Star told him to shut up while he was busy trying to take control of the Nemesis from the Autobots. I mean, Scream gave Knock Out plenty of reasons to turn on him, but this moment just seems kinda petty? *shrug*


Shockwave gets killed by the hoard of zombie dragons... except he doesn't, because he just randomly pops back up for a quick word to Predaking before vanishing back into the aether. Wut?


There's a whole fight at the well of allsparks, and Optimus saves the day by trapping Unicron in a jar and then diving into the planet’s core. This destroys the Matrix of Leadership and ends the line of Primes and --- hang on, was the Matrix even passed down in this series? They act like it does, but Optimus got it straight from Primus. And returning it to him literally just destroyed it, so?????????


Megatron disbands the Decepticons because he felt "oppression", depsite that being exactly why he created ‘Cons in the first place. Ehh, there’s potential here (Tarn and Animated Megtron play with similar themes), but this show is just totally disinterested in fleshing out anything.

Starscream finally acts likes himself.... but the Preds ambush him. Gah.
 

 

And that is that.

 

Lord Smokescreen, Emperor of Destruction *flails limbs*

 


Edited by Noideaforaname, 05 January 2018 - 02:04 PM.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 01:58 PM

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