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@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!


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#41 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:07 AM

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:09 AM

Mega Jazz would be a good name for his "combos".


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:10 AM

I could potentially see it being the work of a deco artist who didn't know Cybertronix actually meant anything, opened up some "cool Transfomers writing" that was handy, and grabbed a couple of random chunks out of what was actually "Amalgamous Prime." It'd be Nexus Maximus-tier bad luck, but I mean the Nexus Maximus thing did happen.

But whatever the reason it happened, people are absolutely justified in being mad about it.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:14 AM

There is absolutely no reason to assume anyone other than the deco artist has any idea what this says. It's a series of tiny decorative blobs that most FANS wouldn't think to try to translate, let alone supervisors at a toy company who have a million other things to do and aren't used to searching for secret Jim Sorenson messages everywhere Transformers-adjacent.

If you want a deco artist to lose his livelihood over being an idiot, that's totally fair, since it was his idiot decision. But to suggest that this is something it is remotely reasonable to hold against Hasbro as a company or even Transformers as a team is...well, a very fan reaction, anyway.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:17 AM

 

Politics have no place in toys.

 

I'm holding you to that if someone sneaks 'antifa' onto a future toy.

 

Make it "makes a post that is just copy pasting Trump's twitter feed but using the Sentinel Prime toy"...



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:20 AM

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:23 AM

While inexcusable, we live in a world where that slogan is doing irrepairable damage to things much more significant than Jazz'a deco layout.

It's disappointing and again, inexcusable, but its hard for me to feel enraged when I'm more enraged at the tax bill that is swimming in the swamp of DC right now. I'd like to hear what they justify it with though.

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#48 Copper Bezel

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:29 AM

There is absolutely no reason to assume anyone other than the deco artist has any idea what this says. It's a series of tiny decorative blobs that most FANS wouldn't think to try to translate, let alone supervisors at a toy company who have a million other things to do and aren't used to searching for secret Jim Sorenson messages everywhere Transformers-adjacent.

If you want a deco artist to lose his livelihood over being an idiot, that's totally fair, since it was his idiot decision. But to suggest that this is something it is remotely reasonable to hold against Hasbro as a company or even Transformers as a team is...well, a very fan reaction, anyway.

Ding. This is hardly the first time someone has decided to sneak secret messages into a kids' product, and we know how this shit happens.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:35 AM

 

There is absolutely no reason to assume anyone other than the deco artist has any idea what this says. It's a series of tiny decorative blobs that most FANS wouldn't think to try to translate, let alone supervisors at a toy company who have a million other things to do and aren't used to searching for secret Jim Sorenson messages everywhere Transformers-adjacent.

If you want a deco artist to lose his livelihood over being an idiot, that's totally fair, since it was his idiot decision. But to suggest that this is something it is remotely reasonable to hold against Hasbro as a company or even Transformers as a team is...well, a very fan reaction, anyway.

Ding. This is hardly the first time someone has decided to sneak secret messages into a kids' product, and we know how this shit happens.

 

It's just extremely annoying that it's a political one on something that should be escapism from that exact stuff.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:46 AM

Titans Return had Orange Boss Man, Power of the Primes has MAGA Jazz... was there a Trump-associated toy in Combiner Wars that nobody noticed?


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:48 AM

Bruticus and Superion do a nice job representing the military industrial complex.

Rook was a military apc in police deco. That's pretty on point.
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:48 AM

Naw, Skrapnelmucci was T30.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#53 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:54 AM

Titans Return had Orange Boss Man, Power of the Primes has MAGA Jazz... was there a Trump-associated toy in Combiner Wars that nobody noticed?

Well, remember, back then Trump was just a crooked businessman and a garbage TV star. So yes, there were Swindle and Wreck-Gar toys in CW.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:54 AM

They changed Jazz's name again for trademark issues! pic.twitter.com/K6aoREahQC

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#55 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:56 AM

Oh lord.

White Power of the Primes would have been better word play but I'm not contributing to this.
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Posted 17 November 2017 - 11:59 AM

 

Titans Return had Orange Boss Man, Power of the Primes has MAGA Jazz... was there a Trump-associated toy in Combiner Wars that nobody noticed?

Well, remember, back then Trump was just a crooked businessman and a garbage TV star. So yes, there were Swindle and Wreck-Gar toys in CW.

 

Crap, we really are in the Trump Wars Trilogy.

 

CW Swindle - "I make the best deals!"

TR Sentinel Prime - Orange

POTP Jazz - MAGA

 

The unholy trinity.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:04 PM

Let's try and keep things reasonably focused on the Jazz thing please, folks. Obviously some level of politics is unavoidable, but this isn't a P&R thread.

Edited by Jalaguy, 17 November 2017 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:30 PM

I do want either a clarification of the tampo or an explanation and a deco artist to be fired, though.

Politics have no place in toys.


Totally agree! Political messages only and I mean ONLY belong in Movies

Television

Comic books

Novels

Video games

Children's cartoons

Football

Coffee

Stand up Comedy

The "O.K." sign.

Social Media

24 hour news channels

Broadway Plays

Award Shows

Safety pins

But on TOYS? Well that's finally taking things TOO FAR!

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 12:38 PM

The fact that they disguised it speaks volumes. If they decide Ironhide or movie Hound is a MAGA chud and make that an open part of the character, that's not great, but it's honest and you can engage with it or not as you choose. I mean forget MAGA, you can buy little WWII planes with swastikas on them, and depending on your context and your audience even that can be totally fine. But they knew this wasn't appropriate for this audience and they snuck it past.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 01:34 PM

I think we should separate Magazz from Hasbro and Transforners. "Disney" didn't put a naked lady into The Rescuers or a dick on the Little Mermaid tape cover.

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