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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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#1 Jenny

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:09 AM

https://twitter.com/...468099630587904
 
this is
 
not good

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:11 AM

What is that from, anyway?

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:15 AM

jazz



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:53 AM

I gotta ask.  What is "Maga?"



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:53 AM

Yyyyeah, I'd really like to know the deco artist.
 

I gotta ask.  What is "Maga?"

Acronym of "Make America Great Again". AKA the slogan of Trump voters.

Edited by Creedence, 17 November 2017 - 06:55 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 06:58 AM

Yeah, whatever wanker decided to daub that onto not just any Transformer, but the most famously black-coded Transformer, needs to lose their job.

Edited by Jalaguy, 17 November 2017 - 06:58 AM.


#7 Donocropolis

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:00 AM

Yyyyeah, I'd really like to know the deco artist.
 

I gotta ask.  What is "Maga?"

Acronym of "Make America Great Again". AKA the slogan of Trump voters.

 

 

That is.....unexpected.



#8 M Sipher

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:00 AM

AKA, "f*** brown people, LGBTQ people, women, the Jewish, hell anyone non-people-who-claim-to-be-Christian, the poor, the not-rich..."

 

 

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:10 AM

How did Jazz vote for Trump when he himself is an illegal alien? Something doesn't add up here

Edit: Theory: SG Jazz Mk II

Edited by Octavius Prime, 17 November 2017 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 07:48 AM

Ugh.

 

That's really bad.

 

First because all the tampos are just black without any other coloring, and now because of possible hidden right wing agendas.

 

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:05 AM


Yuck.

If I wasnt already skipping Jazz, that would do it.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:18 AM

I'm looking at it and that M miiiiight be something else.... but I don't know what VAGA or YAGA might be.


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:33 AM

For my sanity I am deeming this either a coincidence or error.

 

Alternately: Reprolabels replaces it with a positive slogan instead.



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Posted 17 November 2017 - 08:44 AM

I wouldn't have known what MAGA meant if someone didn't tell me.  And Hasbro is all over the place with their dedication to detail.  I could see this being a god awful typo that was the second worst case scenario possible.  (I mean, what if it was Nazi?)  I could also see this being a stupid workplace prank that didn't get caught.  "Steve won't stop complaining about Trump 24/7, so I'll just switch the Jazz to Maga on his tampo layout and he'll be so pissed when he catches it!" only for Steve to never catch it and it makes it all the way to market.

And I could also flat out see this being a diehard Trump fan making his mark or doing the Steve prank thing with malicious intentions.  Even if I was a Trump fan, I would still be pissed that politics made it's way onto a child's toy.

 


Edited by Shrug, 17 November 2017 - 08:45 AM.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM

Lets hope this is just a translation error becuase of the size of the text. Otherwise, I may not be participating in the brand in any way.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:23 AM

Lets hope this is just a translation error becuase of the size of the text. Otherwise, I may not be participating in the brand in any way.

Only other thing it can be is "VAGA" or "YAGA", and that's when I'm purposefully looking for differences because I'm going to be really sad if politics has bled into Transformers. 

 

I'm already getting bored with the line's repetitiveness and general lack of imagination these days, so I'd probably just stop before I start since I haven't bought any yet.  Maybe just pool cash for expensive Japanese G1 stuff I've always thought of as beyond my reach.


Edited by Spark, 17 November 2017 - 09:23 AM.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:24 AM

You don't sneak a white supremacist slogan into people's homes. You don't put crypto-fascism on a goddamn children's toy, and defiling the franchise's most black-coded character with it just makes it worse. I'm done with new toys. I've got a house full of this shit, I've got 2 kids who I assumed Hasbro would want me to bring into Transformers fandom, but I will not abide this. I will not bring this into my home, and I will not risk it with future Hasbro products.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:24 AM

I'm gonna be over here not wanting to destroy someone's life over a 3mm large tampograph in a language I can't understand unless I take out a decoder that is so muddy due to the size it might not even be correct.  I saw enough of that reactionary fury from Shufflegate, and they were wrong then too.

 

This is the same company that went out of their way to personally invite the little girl that started that whole 'Where's Rey' fiasco to Hascon, after all.


Edited by Sprocket, 17 November 2017 - 09:47 AM.

Being part of any fandom is fundamentally embarassing.

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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:35 AM

Hasbro supports Trump?

 


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Posted 17 November 2017 - 09:39 AM

I don't care about politics in toys. Larry Hama's filecards had Joes and Cobras from all over the political spectrum and it made things richer. None of the heroes were fascists. It's not a hard difference to understand.

Edited by Chip, 17 November 2017 - 09:40 AM.




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