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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:40 PM)

I hate brick and mortar stores around here.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:38 PM)

But I like the feel of the brick and mortar search a bit more. And I can see inside packages at brick and mortar. True, Amazon has a good return policy, but I like buying once and settling.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 10:37 PM)

I suppose I could save more if I bought more often from Amazon.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 10:36 PM)

Closest I got to "free" was 30% off warpath, which just about lined him up to the canadian price had he ever shown up around me. The pile of loot saved me a pile, but it was still pricy.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:34 PM)

Yeah, I purposefully waited on them because I knew they'd be perfect "add onto orders to get free shipping" fodder. Already gotten two that way. Technically "free" and I barely had to wait.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 January 2018 - 09:21 PM)

That's how I feel about Prime Masters. Getting back into collecting last year taught me to be patient, which grants rewards most of the time.

@  Shrug : (17 January 2018 - 09:18 PM)

I want Starscream so hard after seeing him in person, but since he's the one being left behind by every other collector in my area, I feel like I can wait for a sale.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:09 PM)

I mean: I maybe woulda jumped on starscream if I found a sale or something, but it wasn't a priority.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 09:08 PM)

I only wanted the dinobots (cause... volcanicus.) but got saddled with three I didn't want due to the bundling. I'd still be waiting to order if I had waited on individual figures.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 08:27 PM)

Ahh.. I just ordered the whole case cause I wanted too. :)

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 06:49 PM)

Mostly PotP dinobots. Plus some stuff I couldn't opt out of to get those dinobots. And CW warpath... cause he was on sale.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 04:54 PM)

What ya getting?

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2018 - 04:38 PM)

Yay! My package from BBTS is in canada! I might even get it this week!

@  Benbot : (17 January 2018 - 02:04 PM)

I need a laptop more than a new desktop

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 01:18 PM)

Buying a pre-built computer you should be okay.. It's just the individual parts that jumped huge in price.

@  Paladin : (17 January 2018 - 01:14 PM)

well all the idiots who invested in "bitcoin" will be selling theirs en masse to make ends meet so you might be able to find something cheap if you watch auctions.

@  Benbot : (17 January 2018 - 12:59 PM)

Is now a good time to buy a computer? Or should I wait?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 12:01 PM)

I pointed out that I'm on disabilty.. I don't have to pretend to be an adult anymore. ;D

@  MEDdMI : (17 January 2018 - 11:25 AM)

Also Bayonetta 3.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 January 2018 - 10:55 AM)

Nintendo also announced Dark Souls for the Switch, so those people should shut up.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:51 AM)

Apparently people are freaking out that Nintendo announced something for kids and kids at heart. And people are absolutely freaking out about it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 January 2018 - 10:23 AM)

...what?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 January 2018 - 10:16 AM)

Why is something for kids and "kids at heart" so bad? :(

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 January 2018 - 09:05 PM)

I vote kidnap Reggie.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 January 2018 - 07:20 PM)

Just post it on the net.. Or maybe kidnapp Reggie and make them do a Nintendo Direct about it. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2018 - 06:50 PM)

Rent a space and do a webcast?

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2018 - 06:22 PM)

They could just do a panel at RI ComicCon or something.

@  abates : (16 January 2018 - 05:51 PM)

I wonder how they'll do the Hall of Fame this year without a convention to hold the award ceremony at.

@  B-Fox : (16 January 2018 - 01:33 PM)

metalhawk

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 01:21 PM)

I love RotF Mixmaster, if that means anything.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 January 2018 - 12:42 PM)

Ehh.. when they get to complicated.. it gets annoying. PotP Optimus is decent. Rodimus pushes it just a little.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:32 PM)

Part of the appeal of Transformers for me has always been the mechanical puzzle angle, so I really enjoyed the ROTF/TF2010 line when that angle hit its zenith.

@  Locoman : (16 January 2018 - 12:31 PM)

I'm probably one of the few people who really enjoys complicated, fiddly transformations.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2018 - 12:14 PM)

Some were decent, but many suffered from that "collector mentality" where it just LOOKED good in both modes...but the engineering was complex merely for the sake of it.

@  Shrug : (16 January 2018 - 10:30 AM)

Huh. That's dissapointing. I had completely missed the Alternators and had just always assumed they were good based on how they looked in photos.

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2018 - 03:34 AM)

I liked the Alternator Tracks mold. I think everyone agrees the Grimjack mold was just kinda shit even if you didn't care about it being Grimlock as a car.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:16 PM)

My local dept. store Shopko always seemed to get a few late run gems, like Blast Attack Optimus Primal and hard to find collection 2 Revenge of the Sith toys.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 January 2018 - 09:15 PM)

Still wish I had snagged that extra Swerve I saw on clearance at Shopko, though

@  RichardT1977 : (15 January 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Smokescreen was the only Alternator I ever got.

@  Telly : (15 January 2018 - 07:24 PM)

i sold all my alternators last year

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 January 2018 - 05:27 PM)

Hound isn't bad, and, uh........

@  Paladin : (15 January 2018 - 05:23 PM)

there's only like 3 Alternator molds at most that still hold up...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 January 2018 - 01:09 PM)

There were no shelfwarmer Altenators where I lived.. Cause no one ever got them in. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (15 January 2018 - 12:57 PM)

I have Alternators Nemesis Prime since he was a shelf warmer here.

@  unluckiness : (15 January 2018 - 10:07 AM)

You wouldn't want to anyway

@  Chromedome113 : (15 January 2018 - 07:21 AM)

My first Prime was Alternators Optimus, I still can't transform him

@  Shrug : (14 January 2018 - 06:42 PM)

Ah. I'll try to remember that, but I keep forgetting "Gobots" the Autobot even existed.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"Gobots" is the G2 Autobot Color Changer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2018 - 05:01 PM)

@Shrug That would be "Go-Bots".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 January 2018 - 03:16 AM)

At least you still had a big beefy super robot with giant guns.


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#81 Broadside

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:29 PM

I have to say, I don't quite get how "Autobots are physically distinct from Decepticons in terms of bodyframes and abilities" really has to do with Megatron's "Autobot oppression" line being accurate...

Another factor is that we've got at least two confirmed and two more implied cases of Autobots defecting to the Decepticons. (Swindle and Lockdown.)

 
Was the Swindle bit ever implied outside the Almanac? I always did think that that Strika entry was implying Swindle was an ex-Autobot, but I wasn't sure.

Edited by Broadside, 12 November 2017 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:30 PM

I feel like it's supposed to be that Swindle is willing to sell to whoever and would rat out the Decepticons in a heartbeat if he was paid enough, not that he was a former Autobot.


 

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:36 PM

I don't know if Swindle is a former Autobot came up in the show at all. I don't think it did. But I know from conversations with Derrick and Marty that this was some of the idea behind the character. That's why he's not especially big, but does everything he can to be as physically imposing as possible. The 'elevator shoes' are probably the prime example of that. Swindle's purple optics were another hint that he wasn't an ordinary Decepticon, but one who had come to the cause later.

That said, since the show itself didn't lean in that direction (beyond informing the design) we were careful to merely imply it rather than outright state it. Sometimes behind-the-scenes ideas do change.

Edited by Jim S, 12 November 2017 - 03:55 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:38 PM

Oooh, fascinating!

(The idea, I suppose, is that he retained his previous Autobot body rather than reformatting, but added the "platforms" and stuff like the cannon?)


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:49 PM

Reformatting is weird in Animated. When characters take on new alt modes, they're cosmetic skins over the ones they already had. Every exception involves mad science or magic. 

 

The fact that Swindle doesn't fly and is not impossibly large for an Autobot makes him look an awful lot like Lockdown, so I'd assumed it was the unstated implication.

 

I have to say, I don't quite get how "Autobots are physically distinct from Decepticons in terms of bodyframes and abilities" really has to do with Megatron's "Autobot oppression" line being accurate...

Because HellCat's reading was that Autobots oppressed Decepticons because they were physically different. (Yes, that reading relies on at least three incorrect premises based on the cartoon and before considering the Almanac II. But it's (exactly all of) what those two ideas have to do with one another.)


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:50 PM

(The idea, I suppose, is that he retained his previous Autobot body rather than reformatting, but added the "platforms" and stuff like the cannon?)


Yeah. His original Autobot superpower would have been his subspace dimension. All of those guns were 'aftermarket.' Not really all that different from Lockdown.

Edited by Jim S, 12 November 2017 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:56 PM

Ah, the subspace pocket as superpower thing makes sense. Awesome. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:59 PM

I feel like the idea is that the vehicle "kibble" is the shell that can be changed to turn into different things, and that on the inside, everybody looks kinda like Yoketron did when he got his spark transferred into a new protoform.


 

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:02 PM

I'm kind of surprised that this is new information. I would have thought it had come out already on Derrick's Twitter or something.

Now I'm wondering what Lockdown's power might be...

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:04 PM

Going by the toy, mass shifting.



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:08 PM

I feel like the idea is that the vehicle "kibble" is the shell that can be changed to turn into different things, and that on the inside, everybody looks kinda like Yoketron did when he got his spark transferred into a new protoform.

Yeah, that would make some sense. So the parts Yoketron didn't have or the parts the Starscream and Omega clones needed in addition to the protoforms would be altered when taking on a new alt mode, but the stuff made up by the protoform itself would be unchanged, and that's enough to lock them into a set of abilities and a rough alt mode type, apart from "mods", which are clearly on the "armor / kibble" side of the equation.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 12 November 2017 - 04:09 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:15 PM

I'm kind of surprised that this is new information. I would have thought it had come out already on Derrick's Twitter or something.

Now I'm wondering what Lockdown's power might be...

 

Could be that it was something he got rid of in favor of his supply of stolen tools and weapons. Or it could be one of those other pieces of equipment he uses, dunno.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:26 PM

Maybe he's more easily modified than most Cybertronians.


 

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:26 PM

That voice might be a superpower. = ] 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:27 PM

His power is that he can sound like anyone. He just chooses to always sound like Lance Henriksen, for obvious reasons.



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 04:30 PM

I mean... wouldn't you?

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 05:27 PM

Yeah, I always figured that Lockdown's power was some kind of "universal donor" thing that allowed him to handle a wide variety of upgrades.
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 11:42 PM

For the record I still don't feel anyone involved has got what I've been poorly communicating. Just think they have and for some reason got upset about it.

It's why I suggested dropping the matter, since all it seems to be doing is creating ill will.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 11:51 PM

I've paraphrased your argument a dozen times. It comes in at least two flavors depending on which elements of canon that you forgot about and we raised you're accepting. I would love to see your attempt to explain where I'm misunderstanding you, because I am entirely convinced at this stage that I have put more thought into your fan theory than you have. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 12 November 2017 - 11:52 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 11:59 PM

I like how a thread about someone discovering and loving a new corner of the TF universe quickly derails into drawn out arguments about whether or not the Show is Bad and if You Should Feel Bad for liking it.

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"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."



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