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@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 07:04 PM)

Ah damn it, need to go get some new headphones.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 06:21 PM)

Power was out for most of the day, and now a boil water advisory. Been a great day so far...

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Bottom line, he reminds them alternatively of all the con men they grew up with watching on television (i.e. televangelists) or their favorite character from the Bible (i.e. Old Testament God).

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:30 PM)

Bill Maher gave an excellent explanation for why the Religious Right loves Trump so much.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 October 2018 - 05:02 PM)

"NOOOO said the man in washington! It's belongs to the poor!"... oh boy was he wrong.

@  Paladin : (19 October 2018 - 04:34 PM)

see also Andrew Ryan

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 03:18 PM)

Also, "Big Father" has almost all the benefits of "Big Brother", but with none of the drawbacks.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 02:22 PM)

I'd go with "moron", personally.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 10:02 AM)

Why not both?

@  Benbot : (19 October 2018 - 09:56 AM)

I think she was a psychopath.

@  Echowarrior : (19 October 2018 - 09:50 AM)

Ayn Rand was a pretentious bitch.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:31 AM)

But Sven makes way more sense now

@  Noideaforaname : (19 October 2018 - 09:30 AM)

Man, watching the original Voltron cartoon for the first time is so weird after having only seen the Netflix reboot.

@  D.M : (19 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

+They don't really give a crap about God. All their religious talk is just part of the mask. They wanna look like the ideal citizen (what they consider that to be) - the most Christian of all Christians, the most patriotic of all patriots, etc.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 08:13 AM)

That's because she was also greedy, heartless, and despised the poor, which is something the right often loves more than God.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

I find it rather amusing that the party of the Religious Right sees wisdom in a woman who hated the notion of God almost as much as she hated and feared the idea of being part of a family.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:39 AM)

However, another big issue is cultural differences. We do have a sense of humor, it's just different than in other cultures because it is a product of a different culture. Simply put, what you might find incredibly funny is considered unfunny by Germans... and vice versa.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:38 AM)

It's actually a multi-faceted issue. Yes, some Germans are incredibly devoid of humor, although those people exist in other countries too. I have no ideas regarding statistics, but these people exist.

@  Nevermore : (19 October 2018 - 05:37 AM)

So, about this long-standing stereotype that "Germans have no sense of humor"...

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 October 2018 - 03:49 AM)

I got enough Rand fighting my way through the Sword of Truth series. I can't imagine trying to read the original work.

@  Pennpenn : (19 October 2018 - 02:39 AM)

All the people who like Rand should go live in a big underwater city. I cannot foresee anything that could go wrong with such a scenario.

@  MidnightFox : (19 October 2018 - 01:13 AM)

Everyone needs to stop reading Rand

@  Tieria Prime : (18 October 2018 - 10:54 PM)

Gotten a new Gundam gunpla toy model kit 

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 October 2018 - 09:47 PM)

Ugh it's ridiculous how some people worship Rand's ideas.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2018 - 09:07 PM)

That's one of the things the old cable companies got right: Only one or two options per area. The illusion of choice.

@  Paladin : (18 October 2018 - 08:48 PM)

business types need to stop reading Ayn Rand.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2018 - 07:29 PM)

The streaming services are starting to get too saturated and start canabilising each other.

@  Steevy Maximus : (18 October 2018 - 06:50 PM)

Good thing I never bought into VRV...Funimation is pulling out. And I got into HiDive at $4 a month.

@  Echowarrior : (18 October 2018 - 10:21 AM)

The restauraunt messes up your food, you complain to customer service. Complain to 911 when you get food poisoning from said food.

@  MEDdMI : (18 October 2018 - 07:59 AM)

Ugh. I hate people sometimes.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

I mean, white people are calling the cops on black people for random shit lately, it appears.

@  Pennpenn : (18 October 2018 - 02:49 AM)

It's not that surprising that some people freaked out enough over Youtube being down that they'd call emergency services. I mean, I've heard of at least one instance of someone calling 911 because the restaurant didn't make a cheeseburger to their liking.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2018/10/16/youtube-experiences-widespread-outage/ Just one of several stories about it.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 October 2018 - 11:59 AM)

*groan* Morons.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 October 2018 - 11:48 AM)

Yep.

@  MEDdMI : (17 October 2018 - 11:45 AM)

people were calling 911 about YouTube being down?

@  MEDdMI : (17 October 2018 - 11:45 AM)

....what

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 October 2018 - 11:39 AM)

Apparently some people freaked out so much they called 911.

@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 07:33 AM)

I was at work when it happened I guess.

@  Paladin : (17 October 2018 - 07:18 AM)

disappeared completely up its own asshole.

@  Pennpenn : (17 October 2018 - 02:14 AM)

Youtube was gone?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 11:53 PM)

I actually agree with you MEDdMI, or at least be creative. x.x

@  MEDdMI : (16 October 2018 - 11:29 PM)

Death threats are boring. Get to know the person, then torment them with stuff that really gets under their skin. *evil grin*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 October 2018 - 10:18 PM)

YouTube is back!

@  Waspinator : (16 October 2018 - 09:55 PM)

Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

@  RichardT1977 : (16 October 2018 - 09:27 PM)

BTW for the three of you who haven't discovered yet, YouTube is down.

@  Telly : (16 October 2018 - 08:05 PM)

maybe this is that persons first death threat, and the creativity will come with more experiance

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 06:14 PM)

Nah. Or at least not near as creative as some of them I've got. This one was a basic "If I ever see you IRL I'll slit you're throat."

@  wonko the sane? : (16 October 2018 - 06:00 PM)

was it at least a creative threat?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 October 2018 - 01:07 PM)

Speaking of which.. Got a deaththeat today on an other messageboard. :D


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Oh my god Transformers Animated is so good!


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#1 Tailgreat

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 09:33 PM

Just finished my bingewatch and it's amazing. It's almost as good as Beast Wars.

Casting Optimus as a young, erstwhile hero should be awful; even if Grand Heroic Autobot Optimus get boring after a while, making him Terry McGinnis would be just as bad. Instead the show strikes a perfect balance, where he's someone growing into that noble hero while constantly showing the traits that make him a good leader on top of giving him depth and flaws to overcome and arc to achieve.

 

All the other Autobots are great too. Crotchety battle axe Ratchet and dumb sensitive lug Bulkhead were far and away my favourites. Heck I even liked the filler human villains because they're just fun, and some like Headmaster and Meltdown make for effective antagonists.

 

Funnily enough, it shares Beast Wars' main flaw, which was a rushed conclusion. The finale just kind of happens, though with a little better build up than Beast Wars got, and feels too small. This show really would have benefited the most from having an extra season, especially since we miss out on Sari's backstory (and speaking of Sari she's easily the best token human the franchise has ever gotten, even before she turns out to be part robot).

 

I think my biggest problem with the show is Sentinel Prime. I know he's supposed to be a jerk, but he's the one character filled potential that's never used. They keep hinting there's more to him where he expresses fondness for Optimus and then they never go anywhere with it and  he remains a jerk, and then they build him up into a proper antagonist figure where he takes the role of Magnus and then they never do anything with that either outside of "This Is Why I Hate Machines", and that was really small. Blackarachnia really needed another episode too to complete her arc. She was another character they never really decided where they wanted to go with her.

 

Overall it's fantastic, and now I deeply regret not jumping on this a decade ago because I missed out on all those sweet toys. At least I have my Voyager Optimus.

 

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 10:05 PM

Glad you liked it; I personally consider it my favorite Transformers series. Hell, I joined this site so I could talk about Animated with other fans!


Edited by Evac, 10 November 2017 - 10:07 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 12:23 AM

For me, it ranks as number 3, with Beast Wars in first place and Rescue Bots in second.

 

If you loved the show, you'll love all the extra material it got in printed form. Recommended reads include:


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 02:30 AM

The Almanac  II or Complete version actually detail the proposed season 4's episodes and plots along with some concept art of a Powermaster Prime, "Maurader" Megatron , and new looks for a few more characters. Sadly both are out of print and go for some high prices but the original 2 are available through Kindle for much less.


Edited by Darth Irian, 11 November 2017 - 02:35 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 03:23 AM

I like Animated but feel it's become overrated. It works well as a series that acknowledges the franchise history up to that point without being bound to a single overriding gimmick but it was cut short on resolution and the actual animation itself is often terrible.

One thing that bugged me is the class divide. Decepticons are depicted as hulking brutes who tower over the Autobots and whilst the Autobots are shown to be corrupt there seems to be no logical way this idea of an oppressed Decepticon class could happen in this setting. It bugs me in the same way Beast Wars does for implying morality or lack of is programmed into Predacons.

Something's wrong when the G1 cartoon explored the idea better with the Aerialbots.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 03:52 AM

Sabrblade linked the storybook version above, but you can actually watch "The Return of Blurr" as a full-cast audio drama with illustrations, with Blurr and Arcee's original VAs! It's set after the end of season 3.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 04:06 AM

Man, I'd give teeth for a Transformers series that was animated like Animated again. Striking and interesting character designs and a dense, lived-in world. Rescue Bots gets most of the way there, admittedly. 

 

But for the most part I don't really care about comparisons to other TF series, Animated was a singular event and it was a beautiful thing. I don't expect that kind of lightning to strike twice in the same franchise, especially considering how much of G1 it incorporated and reprised in a way that only had to happen once and would feel cheap the second time.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:38 AM

Sabrblade linked the storybook version above, but you can actually watch "The Return of Blurr" as a full-cast audio drama with illustrations, with Blurr and Arcee's original VAs! It's set after the end of season 3.

 

It was hilarious how gruesomely they killed Blurr off. He gets crushed to death on screen, and then Cliffjumper just throws his remains into an incinerator.


Edited by Tailgreat, 11 November 2017 - 07:41 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:47 AM

One thing that bugged me is the class divide. Decepticons are depicted as hulking brutes who tower over the Autobots and whilst the Autobots are shown to be corrupt there seems to be no logical way this idea of an oppressed Decepticon class could happen in this setting.


Really? I mean, in the real world, tiny nations have subjugated much larger populations with some regularity. The more physically impressive specimens are often shackled to the will of less physically impressive but wealthier or more organized masters.

Also, Animated is pretty silent on the question of what kicked off the Autobot Decepticon war. The idea that it was "oppressed Decepticons" is entirely in your own head, probably put there by IDW.

So... the thing that bothers you about the show isn't really in the show at all.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:04 AM

Didn't Megatron talk like tyranny on the Autobots' part was a factor? Granted, there was no specifying what that really meant.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:08 AM

 

One thing that bugged me is the class divide. Decepticons are depicted as hulking brutes who tower over the Autobots and whilst the Autobots are shown to be corrupt there seems to be no logical way this idea of an oppressed Decepticon class could happen in this setting.


Really? I mean, in the real world, tiny nations have subjugated much larger populations with some regularity. The more physically impressive specimens are often shackled to the will of less physically impressive but wealthier or more organized masters.

Also, Animated is pretty silent on the question of what kicked off the Autobot Decepticon war. The idea that it was "oppressed Decepticons" is entirely in your own head, probably put there by IDW.

So... the thing that bothers you about the show isn't really in the show at all.

 

Didn't Megatron talk like tyranny on the Autobots' part was a factor? Granted, there was no specifying what that really meant.

 

Yeah, granted Megatron isn't the least biased of sources, but isn't Autobot tyranny part of his rhetoric?


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:10 AM

I don't remember whether it was any more specific than that, though. Which has occasionally meant "tyrannically not allowing us to conquer the galaxy" in some continuities. It definitely doesn't from there create some kind of inconsistency with the fact that Decepticons also use different protoform molds. = .


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:18 AM

Ten years later & there is still an Omega Supreme sized hole in my collection.... :(


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:36 AM

Megatron is shown in series to talk about Autobot oppression. The show never makes it clear if this is genuine or simply a line he uses to drum up support but equally we are shown that the Autobots are corrupt even before Sentinel assumes command. Animated likewise makes the point that there is actually a genetic distinction between Autobot and Decepticon, with Safeguard being the result of them performing secret genetic experiments to grant Autobots the Decepticon ability of flight.

 

So we have a race of apparently naturally emerging one man armies within the Cybertronian species. It would be like if half of humans were born as normal and half of humans were born 10ft tall with super powers.

 

Animated would have done well to explore this properly. Despite it's hardly consistent continuity, I'll cite the G1 cartoon again because that at least later claimed the two species were the result of being descended from consumer and military robots respectively.

 

With Animated? Who knows.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:41 AM

Didn't Megatron talk like tyranny on the Autobots' part was a factor? Granted, there was no specifying what that really meant.

He also talked like the main Autobot cast were his friends and the reason he didn't want them to know about him was because he was embarrassed about being in pieces.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:46 AM

Are you talking about this exchange?

 

Mixmaster: "You tricked us! You Decepticons are the scum o' the universe!"
Megatron: "...Whaaat? Who told you that?"
Scrapper: "Our friend Bulkhead."
Megatron: "And you believed him?"
Mixmaster: "Well, sure, he's our friend."
Megatron: "And did your friend tell you how his Autobot kind have oppressed us? Driven us from our rightful home? Oh, they may come across as complete imbeciles, but Autobots are cunning, ruthless, unforgiving."

 

If so, I'll point out that the context for that exchange is this:

 

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 09:50 AM

Yeah, the "oppression" Megatron talks about is the Decepticons being kicked off Cybertron after losing the war, which if I'm remembering right was an exile they chose in return for amnesty.


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:00 AM

Megatron is shown in series to talk about Autobot oppression. The show never makes it clear if this is genuine or simply a line he uses to drum up support but equally we are shown that the Autobots are corrupt even before Sentinel assumes command. Animated likewise makes the point that there is actually a genetic distinction between Autobot and Decepticon, with Safeguard being the result of them performing secret genetic experiments to grant Autobots the Decepticon ability of flight.

 

So we have a race of apparently naturally emerging one man armies within the Cybertronian species.

Woooooooooooow. 

 

You know they, like, build them, right? Did you see any part of the series other than the bits you're stringing together to create this fan theory?

 

This isn't G2 and it isn't IDW. "Naturally occurring" does not even exist. Let alone the assumption that the plot of X-Men is the only way for anyone to get superpowers unless otherwise indicated.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 11 November 2017 - 10:01 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:00 AM

So how does this factor in with the actual shady actions we see from the Autobot side? Beast Machines-style 'both sides lose themselves in war'?

 

Wasp was framed as a spy and tortured to the point he became a revenge obsessed wreck discussing himself in the third person. If they do that in peace time, what were they like prior?

 

There's room in the show to suggest the Autobots are indeed oppressive. Blackarachnia becomes a Decepticon out of a mix of self loathing and the fact the Autobots would/do view her as an abomination.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:03 AM

... yes. That is the content of the show you are describing. The Autobots are assholes.

 

What was your point then?


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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