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@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 09:31 AM)

Vegans are categorised as human therefore just fall under Soylant, they are usually all bones.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:47 PM)

Cause... that latter one is technically all burgers anyway.

@  wonko the sane? : (01 December 2019 - 04:46 PM)

So... a burger made without meat, or a burger made with the meat taken from a vegan?

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 December 2019 - 04:22 PM)

I had a vegan burger last week, this week I'll give a vegan steak a shot.

@  wonko the sane? : (30 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

a proper paradox would have broken the board. Nice try though.

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 November 2019 - 01:47 AM)

This shout is empty.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 November 2019 - 12:01 AM)

I've got the admit. tubi tv is great. It's got a lot of stuff.. Including Super Sentai.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There is frankly no better place to (legally) find schlock on the internet for free than Tubi TV

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:33 PM)

It's got all the graphic violence and gratuitous nudity a late 80s OVA should have.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

Available for free with ads on Tubi TV.

@  Steevy Maximus : (29 November 2019 - 10:32 PM)

It's "Goku: Midnight Eye". Originally produced in the late 80s, it apparently wasn't dubbed until the late 90s given Steve Blum was the lead.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 06:38 PM)

The description makes it sound like some high grade, mid 80's shlock. Which, frankly, is my groove.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 November 2019 - 12:37 PM)

Was wondering how long it would take someone to ask.

@  wonko the sane? : (29 November 2019 - 09:58 AM)

okay, it's been like two days so far: what anime is this, cause I'm dying to know.

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 November 2019 - 09:23 PM)

You know you're in for a good time when an old anime starts with a crime lord uses roller skates in his cybernetic legs to skate down the side of the building, launches to a dock and into a getaway boat.

@  Pinkcolliebot : (26 November 2019 - 03:55 PM)

Hey Everyone I'm Making The TF Roll Out Short "Gotta Go Fast!"

@  Benbot : (26 November 2019 - 12:52 PM)

That's what I was hoping for. But here I am, at work the following day.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

You say "die in bed" and I'm thinking "why is that a problem?".

@  fourteenwings : (26 November 2019 - 07:06 AM)

If you don't get out of bed ever your muscles will lock in super-uncomfortable ways and you may get blood clots

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:53 PM)

You did nothing, and so rocks fall down and you die.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 November 2019 - 08:35 PM)

But that's not you doing something, that's something being done to you.

@  MEDdMI : (25 November 2019 - 08:28 PM)

Unless a meteor crashes down on your bed while you're in it.


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#121 unluckiness

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 02:39 AM

Bendis isn't awful. He just sucks at continuity and has been writing too many books about the same characters for too long. This doesn't sound too bad yet.

Also DC's comics people actually seem like they know what they're doing.

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Posted 03 February 2018 - 03:44 AM

Besides, Bendis thrives on street level. I'd like to see him tackle Clark doing some actual reporting and investigating in the streets.


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Posted 03 February 2018 - 05:48 AM


Some of that is fine, but it's not what I go to Superman most for.

Honestly Bendis is good at characterization and great at dialogue. Where he frequently sucks (imo) is long form storytelling. His ongoing plots can meander along forever without ever getting much of anywhere, doing much with the characters he's set up, and often without a satisfying resolution at all. Add that to his absolute not caring about any previously established history that contradicts what he sets out to do and it leaves me very hit and miss on him.

Ultimate Spider-Man was honest wonderful. He's had books that were good beyond that but largely gritty street level, yeah. His Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy were terrible pointless rambling slogs that didn't seem to have a very good idea of where to go or how to get there. X-men was a mixed bag, some pretty good things and some meh directionlessness.

Combine those with the "Bendis era" trends of decompression and Super Heroes not actually doing much full color bright punch-a-badguy-in-silly-spandex super hero-ing and he's not what I'd choose as a direction for Clark.

-ZacWilliam, but when he clicks he clicks, so who knows... but my instinct would be he's Much better suited for The Question or maybe Green Arrow.
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Posted 03 February 2018 - 06:58 AM



Bendis isn't awful. He just sucks at continuity

 

 

That'll be a major boon at the company that keeps resetting its franchises every few years due to being bogged down in decades of continuity despite the fact that THIS TIME™ they promise they won't go back to that well...and they do.

 

So someone who doesn't is at least going to keep whatever future "new" timeline consistent for more than a year.



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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:08 PM

That's an excellent point.

 

In the most recent issue of Defenders, Bendis trotted out Moonstone and Fixer as henchmen for his random-ass crime boss, and it ticked me off.

 

But in DC, I've long since stopped caring. His first issue of Superman could feature pre-Crisis Steve Lombard, post-Crisis Gangbuster, CW's Jimmy Olsen, and Richard Pryor from Superman 3, and my only emotional connection to any of it would be morbid curiosity.


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Posted 04 February 2018 - 11:32 PM

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:21 AM

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Soooo..  Remember that line-wide relaunch around five months ago? Marvel just announced a new relaunch! Which is funny, because the big thing about Legacy was they're were building to stuff like Avengers #700, Spider-Man #800 and more and now they're going back to new #1's.  But don't worry, they have a workaround!  Dual numbering!  Each issue will have both its current series issue as well as its legacy numbering!   Sounds like a great idea, Marvel!  What do you think Senior Vice President of Publishing Tom Brevoort? (Circa 2013)

 

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Stunning!

 

Already they've dropped a couple of announcements

 

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Avengers by Jason Aaron (W) Ed McGuinness (A)  (Said to be the only Avengers ongoing for this relaunch)

 

 

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I feel like we're getting to the point where Marvel will just make every issue a #1 and do line-wide relaunches every month!  I joke, but at this rate of acceleration, it's not that far away!


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 02:49 AM

Why is renumbering still a thing? It never works for as long as they seem to think it will. And if theyre keeping the old numbering anyway why even bother?

When i was reading comics, people thought the several hundred issue numbers of a title was "intimidating". But back then we just had to deal with it cause nobody thought of renumbering a book. Is this thinking still prevelant?

Heres an easy solution: put the years number somewhere on the cover, maybe after the logo. Example: amazing spider-man '18, #1. Theyd get their precious new #1 every year! And if theyre really lucky any sales boost will carry to the next #1

One last thing: good art and good stories will do much more for a title than a new #1. Youd think theyd figure that out by now. Ive figured it out and im not even in the industry or have some fancy degree in business or whatever. All im using is common sense
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Posted 21 February 2018 - 08:33 AM


Sadly your common sense doesn't really match up to reality. Plenty of books with great writing and art have ended too quick in modern times due to poor sales. And Number 1s sadly always do result in at least brief sales boost for a book where almost nothing else does so reliably.

Modern comics have a bunch of problems that can't just be solved by good creative teams, and sadly Marvel and DC have not really found good solutions to most of them.

-ZacWilliam, being big corporations they kind of hate the type of major change it would take to address most of them.
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Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:18 PM

I was so happy to see them restoring those high numbers. I should have known it wouldn't last. Even just one year ago, I could never have imagined giving up on Marvel but it's getting rrrrreeeeeaallllllyy hard to care about anything Marvel and DC do.


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Posted 21 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

Sadly your common sense doesn't really match up to reality. Plenty of books with great writing and art have ended too quick in modern times due to poor sales. And Number 1s sadly always do result in at least brief sales boost for a book where almost nothing else does so reliably.

Modern comics have a bunch of problems that can't just be solved by good creative teams, and sadly Marvel and DC have not really found good solutions to most of them.

-ZacWilliam, being big corporations they kind of hate the type of major change it would take to address most of them.

The thing is, DC has and Marvel has not. DC's sales have maintained remarkable steady since rebirth and Marvel's have dropped like a stone. 

 

Perceived stability, retailer favor, visibility for the lower tier books and lower prices are things that apparently really do affect sales and it's something that DC has figured out that Marvel has not.

 

Of course we are still talking within the sub 100k sales market that comics has been operating in for the last decade, it's not like DC has broken out of that, but within that they turned things around from where they were just over 2 years ago.



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 05:46 PM

Heres an easy solution: put the years number somewhere on the cover, maybe after the logo. Example: amazing spider-man '18, #1. Theyd get their precious new #1 every year! And if theyre really lucky any sales boost will carry to the next #1
 

 

90's Superman comics and the New Krypton event actually did that.  Not sure if it helped sales or not.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 06:42 AM

So, today I've learned that adding "1" to the number of the previous issue is too difficult for the House of Ideas, this is like their eighth relaunch in six years, and Quesada is back on the Comics side of Marvel. I'll try not to let the door hit me...

Oh, and as for numbering? Maybe they should ditch the serial ongoing stuff and just sell the books as arcs -- basically like their trade strategy, but every arc gets its own title and numbering.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:20 PM

I'm kinda enjoying the buildup to the Infinity event...Wednesdays Countdown prime was a good story wrapped in a recap. and also managed to feature a cameo by SHAZAMs arm, leg and cape in the "other realities Captain Marvels" montage, so that was a fun geek moment.


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Posted 23 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

I'm kinda enjoying the buildup to the Infinity event...Wednesdays Countdown prime was a good story wrapped in a recap. and also managed to feature a cameo by SHAZAMs arm, leg and cape in the "other realities Captain Marvels" montage, so that was a fun geek moment.


That's... kinda freaky for me. When I was collecting Peter David's Genis Vel Captain Marvel and it was cancelled, he was moved to Fabian Niceiza's Thunderbolts (because Songbird and Genis were suppose to be a couple from Buseik's Avengers Forever).

But they had to get rid of Genis because... I don't know, they couldn't use Captain Marvel anymore or something. So they... cut him up into body parts and spread him across dimensions. But he's still alive. I think.

The idea that a Captain Marvel (well, Shazam from DC) is in pieces on different covers, worded like that, freaked me out a bit.

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 03:21 PM

I'm not sure you followed. It was a Marvel book that internally showed Carol Danvers Capt Marvel doing something and then alt reality CM's doing the same thing, Monica Rambaeu, Mar Vell, and then in a panel you can't see all of a partial shot of DC's shazam guy.

-ZacWilliam, no dismemberment here...

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Posted 23 February 2018 - 06:51 PM

I'm kinda enjoying the buildup to the Infinity event...Wednesdays Countdown prime was a good story wrapped in a recap. and also managed to feature a cameo by SHAZAMs arm, leg and cape in the "other realities Captain Marvels" montage, so that was a fun geek moment.

I think it also implied that the Rock of Eternity WAS DC's version of the Reality Gem/Stone.

 

Man, I got into comics when I was 10 years old, right when Infinity Gauntlet came out. IG #1 was one of my first comics. Thanos is still my favorite Marvel character ever and whenever something Infinity Gem related is happening, I take notice. Countdown is shaping up to be really fun so far.

 

Also, here's an interesting article from Christopher Priest.

 

http://comicbook.com...w-black-comics/

 

Especially when he talks about casting writers. I think that's what led Marvel this way.

 

Also this:

 

Don’t tell me I can’t write a Chinese lesbian superhero. That’s bullshit. I can write anything. The problem is the two major companies don’t have anybody of color in upper management with the exception of Jim Lee. There are certainly no African Americans in upper management. Anytime I’m writing anything about race now, I get all of these notes back where they’re wringing their hands and not sure about anything. They’re terrified of the Twitter-verse, but half of those people aren’t even reading your comics either. They’re reading it online or heard it somewhere or pirated it, but they’re not buying your comics. They’re getting on Twitter and you’re terrified of them and guiding your publishing program based on it. Just do good stories, well-told, and you’ll see the return on it.

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 01:26 PM

I'm not sure you followed. It was a Marvel book that internally showed Carol Danvers Capt Marvel doing something and then alt reality CM's doing the same thing, Monica Rambaeu, Mar Vell, and then in a panel you can't see all of a partial shot of DC's shazam guy.

-ZacWilliam, no dismemberment here...


Ah I get it now. Still, the wording flashed me back to remembering how horrific it was to 'retire' Genis like that. Poor guy.

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 03:25 PM

So, like, ten different Fantastic Four related collections just showed up in Marvel's Hachette catalog (Hachette is the publishing partner they use for trade collections and graphic novels and whatnot).  So, yeah, the FF are probably coming back soon, which everyone saw coming as soon as Disney went for that Fox deal.

 

It'll be interesting to see how long it lasts if the Fox deal falls apart for some reason.


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Posted 26 February 2018 - 03:37 PM

Also, hey, more "Fresh Starts"

 

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Relaunch by Ta-Nehisi Coates (W) and Daniel Acuna (A)

 

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Jason Aaron (W) and Mike Del Mundo (A)

 

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Miniseries by Matthew Rosenberg (W) and Andy MacDonald (A)

 

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Miniseries by Saladin Ahmed (W) and Eric Nguyen (A)

 

They also announced a Cosmic Ghost Rider spin-off miniseries from the current Thanos ongoing, by the same creative team (Donny Cates (W) and Geoff Shaw (A))

 

Lots of minis announced.


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