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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#81 Daith

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 04:56 PM

Yay Exiles?! Im not sure anyone at Marvel knows what to do with them at all anymore.

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 05:20 PM

Get out of town. Exiles is a concept that has been spectacular and also garbage, will be interesting to see where this ends up.


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:01 PM

Get out of town. Exiles is a concept that has been spectacular and also garbage, will be interesting to see where this ends up.

 

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Posted 03 January 2018 - 06:14 PM

I mean, not generally simultaneously. Generally. 


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Posted 03 January 2018 - 08:30 PM

Im not against Exiles coming back. I welcome the concept wholeheartedly. But Wolvy and run by Fury sr is not what I have in mind

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 06:50 AM

The good:

  • Saladin Ahmed
  • Blink
  • Ms. Cable

The bad:

  • Wolvie
  • Only one mutant/X-character, apparently?

The whatever:

  • Iron Lad

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 01:43 PM

 

The good:

  • Saladin Ahmed
  • Blink
  • Ms. Cable

The bad:

  • Wolvie
  • Only one mutant/X-character, apparently?

The whatever:

  • Iron Lad

 

 

Is Cable and his variations not an X-character?

 

And Blink?


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#88 Undead Scottsman

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 03:26 PM

That's a version of Kamala Khan, aka Ms. Marvel aka an Inhuman.

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#89 Internet Jesus

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Posted 04 January 2018 - 10:59 PM

Maybe shes a mutant in this timestream.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 07:12 AM

 

 

The good:

  • Saladin Ahmed
  • Blink
  • Ms. Cable

The bad:

  • Wolvie
  • Only one mutant/X-character, apparently?

The whatever:

  • Iron Lad

 

 

Is Cable and his variations not an X-character?

 

And Blink?

 

Well, I was sort of counting Old Lady Kamala as "Ms Marvel as a loose homage to Cable", rather than a variant of him.

And I admit that I kind of... completely blanked out on Wolverine being an X-character, somehow. Probably because I don't care for Wolverine.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 11:15 AM

So America is being removed as a "Legacy" title with Marvel stating it "was incorrectly solicited as a Legacy title. This title is not a Legacy title."

Even though

-It was mentioned in the original Legacy announcement listings.

-It had a Legacy lenticular variant cover

-The book has had Legacy branding on it since issue #8

-The Editor on the book, Sarah Brunstad, said "While America doesn’t have the publishing history of a character like Captain America, she’s an important part of 'Legacy' for us because she represents core Marvel values,"

Speculation is this is a very half-assed attempt at making it so that it doesn't look like they're killing ANOTHER Legacy book six months after the relaunch. America is the last missing title from the March soliciations that hasn't been confirmed or denied as being canceled.

https://www.newsaram...cy-line-up.html

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 03:36 PM

I love it, it's like they were forced to include a version of Wolverine for marketing reasons, and so picked the most ridiculous possible version.

 

Edit: I'm also glad Blink is back in a version of her regular costume, I saw the redesign she had in Cable, jeez.


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Posted 05 January 2018 - 05:16 PM

Gail Simone is doing a Domino book.

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https://news.marvel....teps-spotlight/

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 05:46 PM

I love it, it's like they were forced to include a version of Wolverine for marketing reasons, and so picked the most ridiculous possible version.

 

Edit: I'm also glad Blink is back in a version of her regular costume, I saw the redesign she had in Cable, jeez.

Well two different Blinks. The original Blink is the one running with Cable, while the AoA one will be the continuing Exiles character. Is it wrong to hope that Wolvy is just Morph and Marvel is just pulling a fast one on us.



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Posted 05 January 2018 - 08:30 PM

So America is being removed as a "Legacy" title with Marvel stating it "was incorrectly solicited as a Legacy title. This title is not a Legacy title."

Speculation is this is a very half-assed attempt at making it so that it doesn't look like they're killing ANOTHER Legacy book six months after the relaunch. America is the last missing title from the March soliciations that hasn't been confirmed or denied as being canceled.

https://www.newsaram...cy-line-up.html

 
It's my understanding that the book was a darling of various critical circles (IIRC Comic Book Resources, Bleeding Cool, and the like), so even though all that admiration never translated into increased sales it's probably going to be very difficult for Cebulski to cancel it outright.

From a financial standpoint it makes sense to let it and the other under-performing titles go (more resources for other titles, less competition between Marvel's own titles, et cetra), but the minute it's officially cancelled there will likely be some very upset people. I can understand why Marvel would be cautious about finally lowering the boom.

 

Gail Simone is doing a Domino book.

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https://news.marvel....teps-spotlight/


Not sure if want...

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Posted 05 January 2018 - 08:51 PM


Domino = Meh.

Gail Simone = Cool.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 12:46 PM

Gail Simone is doing a Domino book.

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https://news.marvel....teps-spotlight/


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Alright Marvel... You have my attention.

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Posted 06 January 2018 - 10:04 PM

That is the worst looking pizza I've ever seen

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 04:18 AM

Also, Greg Land drew that cover?

I... I don't understand.
It's not terrible.

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Posted 07 January 2018 - 05:58 AM

Also, Greg Land drew that cover?

I... I don't understand.
It's not terrible.

 

Someone else colored it.





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