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@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

@  Xellos : (16 July 2019 - 09:53 PM)

Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 05:17 AM)

I know Shockwave's super mode is pretty lame and Magnus is kinda greebly but it's not that bad.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:38 AM)

Though with the luck and caliber of leaders we've had of late in the darkest timeline, maybe it's too much to hope for.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 July 2019 - 12:36 AM)

Just like democracy, it's not perfect but better than the present alternatives. Capitalism as it's practiced today won't be able to weather the coming wave of automation, though. Best to plan for it and hope for a gentle transition rather than the aforementioned collapse

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 12:27 AM)

Capitalism is the worst amiright? Sent from my iPhone

@  Vexwing : (15 July 2019 - 11:24 PM)

Because the collapse is gonna be just great.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 July 2019 - 10:41 PM)

Let's hope this is late stage and we're on the cusp of something better.

@  abates : (15 July 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Late stage capitalism is the absolute best.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 01:33 PM)

So, welcome to all retail, everywhere.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Oh, and Greenpeace also conducted a protest at a German Amazon facility, to protest against Amazon's practice of throwing customer returns in the trash.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

Right, because with Amazon, it's just the employees that have to step in dog shit while having no space to breathe.[/slightexaggeration]

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 July 2019 - 01:03 PM)

At least I can use Amazon without losing the ability to breath or step in dog shit.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:58 PM)

Considering that Amazon is the new Walmart...

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

All of my best wishes go out to the brave women and men who have the balls (and ovaries) to go on strike at an Amazon facility in the US.

@  Nevermore : (15 July 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Speaking of. Not only are we in Germany on strike today, but so is the fulfillment center in Shakopee, Minnesota!

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Overnight delivery is the right of all sentient beings.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:34 PM)

(and is it sexist of me to assume that a character named "Amazon Prime" would be feminine?)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:34 PM)

Whenever she was summoned, she would arrive the next day?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 July 2019 - 12:32 PM)

The Scioli and Barber TF vs Joe series mentioned an Amazon Prime.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 July 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Meanwhile I'm wondering why no one's come up with a fan character named "Amazon Prime". I mean, today IS her special day...

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 July 2019 - 11:20 AM)

The Wallet-Eater.

@  unluckiness : (15 July 2019 - 08:44 AM)

Woah. Unicron broke the site.

@  MEDdMI : (14 July 2019 - 10:08 PM)

Is that what kids are calling it these days?

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2019 - 07:33 PM)

Ssshh, you'll get us both "dealt with".

@  RichardT1977 : (14 July 2019 - 07:28 PM)

No, but I did *read* it from you...


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#421 AgentOrange

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:16 PM

GOOD NEWS. They killed him in Spider-Geddon and after THAT death, his soul is saved and he's OK now.
 
It's a bullshit explanation but way better than goddamn Slott gave us for him being crazy when he came back.


Not seeing the bullshit in being killed and resurrected repeatedly for months as torture breaking Reilly.
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#422 Rust

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:21 PM

It may make sense for the story, but in my 35 years on this Earth, I've seen far, far too many of the characters I grew up with turn into raving lunatic villains for me to tolerate the idea in the slightest any longer. Bad enough what they did to Phil Urich, I'm not going to have Ben defaced after being pretty much the one bright spot in late 90s Spider comics. Especially not when he was bringing levity in the "I AM THE SPIDER!" era where Peter was competing with flipping BATMAN for psychotic pathos.



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:42 PM

I really don't care what's going on in any books aside from Immortal Hulk and The Green Lantern. Never thought I'd say that for the latter, but here we are.


 

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:35 PM

I echo not being fond of Ben's return. It wasn't bullshit HOW he was turned into a bad guy, it was bullshit THAT he was turned into a bad guy.

 

And Peter David's followup series of high-school-level ruminations about the nature of good and evil didn't come close to justifying it.


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:46 PM

I echo not being fond of Ben's return. It wasn't bullshit HOW he was turned into a bad guy, it was bullshit THAT he was turned into a bad guy.
 
And Peter David's followup series of high-school-level ruminations about the nature of good and evil didn't come close to justifying it.


PAD should have quit at least a decade ago but I guess when you owe that much in back taxes you need to scrape and beg as much as you can.
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#426 D Immortalis

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:49 PM

yeah, i mean, i love PAD the man, but watchng him just write for a paycheck is terrible...on the other hand, watching him eat a bag of chips at a con is gold...so it balances out.


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#427 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:55 PM

I loved his stuff enough while growing up that I'll never begrudge PAD any work, but I have become a lot more selective about purchasing it.


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:26 PM

Being blunt - I gave up on comics completely when they decided to bring back Ben Reilly...and make him the friggen Jackal.


I've he never given up on them 100%, largely because there's good stuff going on outside of Marvel and DC. But yeah, I can totally understand that.

The one-two punches of "Civil War" and "Infinite Crisis" are what really soured me on the big two.
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#429 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 10:34 PM

Theres different degrees of giving up, and Im kinda in between them.

Im always gonna be at least a little curious about whats going on with Spider-Man, Superman, the X-Men, etc. Thanks to switching to digital comics, and thanks to Comixology and Amazon sales, it takes fairly little effort to check in from time to time,

But a real, emotional connection to ongoing comics continuity? Gone for a long, long time. Spider-Man never won me back after the Clone Saga. DC lost me completely with the New 52 (after mostly losing me with Infinite Crisis). X-Men, I cant pin it down to any specific story, but it probably wasnt long after Onslaught (Morrison briefly made me care again with the promise of a new direction, but that only lasted for as long as his run did).

I can still occasionally really enjoy a story or a run, but its almost academic at this point. Theres none of that extra emotional weight I used to get from reading the main book versus an out-of-continuity mini series.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:45 AM

 

Being blunt - I gave up on comics completely when they decided to bring back Ben Reilly...and make him the friggen Jackal.


I've he never given up on them 100%, largely because there's good stuff going on outside of Marvel and DC. But yeah, I can totally understand that.

 

That's fair. I need to stop looking at Marvel and DC as the lump sum of the comics industry. But the big two still shape the industry, and the fact of the matter is neither have been doing a great deal to impress. Marvel often feels like it's going out of its way to spoil my childhood and DC reboots itself every other year so it's hard to really care there.

 

And both of them have a sudden obsession with getting as many people as possible using a single moniker.



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Posted 21 January 2019 - 05:57 AM

My limiter is funds. Both because of comics rising prices and my changing life. In High School and College I had $10 to $20 for books a week and bought the majority of what Marvel put out and some of DC. Something like 6 to 12 or more books a week sometimes. When I started you could get a lot of books for a little funds. Comics prices have raised a rediculous amount while not offering more content and I've picked up a Wife, three kids, a house, 3 dogs and more.

If I won the lottery tomorrow I'd probably go back to buying a lot of comics, as is I generally get 3-4ish a month, leaning towards books I can share with the kids when/if I can find time to get over to the store.

ZacWilliam, What those are varies. Right now Champions is wonderful, Sleepwalker just finished. Squirrel Girl and Moon Girl remain fun comics. Unbeatable Wasp is great and my 4year old daughter Loves the new Rainbow Bright.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 02:31 PM

At this point Kaine is almost the better Scarlet Spider now. Sadly Otto has taken their slot in the Spider books now. Actually post Geddon Im sad to see Marvel canned Renew Your Vows as well.

Granted both RYV and Bens book were not quite my favorite stories in recent years but I still want the Pete and MJ marriage to be a thing again in the mainline, and Ben had some crazy things going on in Vegas.

And with Exiles again getting canned after finding some footing it looks like my best bet for Multiversal hopping adventure is down to Ghost Spider who is trying to stay in her home dimension. Granted that still can be fun alt shenanigans compared to the 616, but I was hoping for a Spider-Girls continuation, especially after Mayday and Annie connected with each other in Geddon.
At this point Kaine is almost the better Scarlet Spider now. Sadly Otto has taken their slot in the Spider books now. Actually post Geddon Im sad to see Marvel canned Renew Your Vows as well.

Granted both RYV and Bens book were not quite my favorite stories in recent years but I still want the Pete and MJ marriage to be a thing again in the mainline, and Ben had some crazy things going on in Vegas.

And with Exiles again getting canned after finding some footing it looks like my best bet for Multiversal hopping adventure is down to Ghost Spider who is trying to stay in her home dimension. Granted that still can be fun alt shenanigans compared to the 616, but I was hoping for a Spider-Girls continuation, especially after Mayday and Annie connected with each other in Geddon.

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Posted 26 January 2019 - 08:25 PM

I really don't care what's going on in any books aside from Immortal Hulk and The Green Lantern. Never thought I'd say that for the latter, but here we are.


Same. But this is actually the most I'm reading in years. They were just so my shit/genuinley good that I got dragged back.

I knew I was going to be a mark for Hulk since Ewing went on an interview and kept talking about Hulk's ability to see ghosts.

I'll probably start reading the Superman books again when I'm 100% sure that Jon will be returned to his normal age/the next trade comes out.

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:43 AM

I picked up issue 1 of Man Without Fear

 

then 2, 3 and 4

 

That's a brilliant comic. Giving us a good character with deep moments as they recover from major trauma, as well as developing the consequences of a superhero life.


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Posted 13 February 2019 - 06:48 PM

Really enjoyed Wonder Twins #1. If we couldn't have an Extreme Justice revival, this seems like the next best thing. 

 

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Posted 14 February 2019 - 06:19 PM

Really enjoyed Wonder Twins #1. If we couldn't have an Extreme Justice revival, this seems like the next best thing. 

 

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 11:59 PM

Really enjoyed Sam Humphries and Joe Quinones' new Dial H. Had heard some stuff about it being... cool in special ways, or special in cool ways... and I wasn't disappointed. It feels like one of those books that might turn out to be really something great, but if I talk it up I'll wreck it, so... we'll just stick with "I liked it a lot". One of those rare books that makes me think Comixology doesn't do it justice and I'll have to grab the trade later as well. 
 
These Bendis-free books in the Bendis imprint are turning out to be pretty solid.

Edit: also this.
 
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Other edit: for anyone put off by the art in those images, I should clarify that's not what the book looks like, that's the gimmick.

https://www.kotaku.c...-hero-relaunch/

And one of the angles Joe has taken with this book is that when a character on the page dials the H Dial, and when they transform, the comic itself transforms as well. The reading experience becomes transformed by the H Dial, and weve seen that in the first issue when Miguel turns into Monster Truck.

And Joes art style has changed, Jordans colouring has changed, the lettering has changed, the caption style has changed, the narration has changed, the action has changed, the storytelling has changed...its like the H Dial has actually morphed the comic book thats physically in your hands.

And this first issue, Monster Truck is going to be the most low key example of what were doing, and in issue two, we take that concept to the next level. In issue three, we take it to the next level. And so on and so forth.


Maybe that escalation will make the book go off the rails, or maybe it will be awesome. I'm keen to find out.

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 04:24 AM

Heroes in Crisis is still making me dislike Tom King. Vision was good. Omega Men was good. This...with Wally West most likely being the Sanctuary murderer after bringing him back in Rebirth?

This is bullshit.


But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 30 March 2019 - 10:15 AM

Havn't been reading it and it does indeed sound pretty bad from all I've heard, but it also sounds a lot like it's all built on some "twist" they havnt got to yet, so honestly I'm very doubtful actual Wally had anything to do with it.

-ZacWilliam, also still mostly expecting most of the dead folks, especially anyone of any import will end up "not dead" by the end.

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Posted 30 March 2019 - 01:00 PM

Wally was always 'my' Flash but I hated how Rebirth handled his return and the nonsensical retcon that the 'other' Wally was Daniel West's son. Rebirth Wally has only ever registered as some weird imposter to me so I say go for it.

 

I also needed my fainting couch for the totally unforeseen revelation that Poison Ivy wasn't actually dead. So shocking. Never would I have predicted that a character with borderline magical regeneration abilities and whose body we never even saw didn't die. I couldn't believe that anyone thought she was even meant to be dead within this story, let alone that she'd be dead forever even if she was.





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