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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#1 Broadside

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 09:28 AM

This is, honestly, hilarious. I mean, it's not going to make Marvel any better and can only make DC worse, but it's still really funny that the ultimate Marvel Company Man is now at DC.

Edited by Broadside, 01 February 2018 - 11:17 AM.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 09:45 AM

goodbye forever

 

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 09:48 AM

Also, you ever notice how Bendis looks like a real life Lex Luthor?


 

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:21 AM

Sad that Irredeemable Iron Man won't get to become a full FF book like it seemes to be leading to, as that was the only Marvel book I was reading.

Oh well, we'll see if this gives him some new energy. Hopefully in one of the like 7 books he'll be writing at any one time there will be some smaller fare like Blue Devil

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:33 AM

Well, I'll always of the fond memories of Ultimate Spider-man.

Maybe he'll add that same energy to a DC property and grab my interest.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 01:55 PM

Pray he knows anything at all about your favorite characters, lament because he will not. (let him create his own, maybe?)

He'll be the busiest man at the company and still somehow accomplish the least.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 03:06 PM

et him create his own, maybe?

 

Has creating an all-new character gone well for DC in the past 20 years, no matter the writer?

 

Now, yet another Superman or Batman that's talking like this and never stops and just keeps talking with more and more speech bubbles... yeah, I can see him doing that.


Edited by PiratedTVPro, 07 November 2017 - 03:12 PM.

Yep.

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 03:34 PM

I wonder which DC hero he'll have date Kitty Pryde.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 04:03 PM

 

et him create his own, maybe?

 

Has creating an all-new character gone well for DC in the past 20 years, no matter the writer?

 

Now, yet another Superman or Batman that's talking like this and never stops and just keeps talking with more and more speech bubbles... yeah, I can see him doing that.

 

30, more like.  Unless you mean "gone well" ironically, in which case I'll just point at Bloodlines.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 04:05 PM

What about Jaime Reyes?

Granted, I mostly know him as the main Blue Beetle in Brave and the Bold

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 04:25 PM

 

 

et him create his own, maybe?

 

Has creating an all-new character gone well for DC in the past 20 years, no matter the writer?

 

Now, yet another Superman or Batman that's talking like this and never stops and just keeps talking with more and more speech bubbles... yeah, I can see him doing that.

 

30, more like.  Unless you mean "gone well" ironically, in which case I'll just point at Bloodlines.

 

 

30? 30's too far.  Tim Drake, Cassandra Cain, Harley Quinn, Bane, Conner Kent, John Henry Irons, Hank Henshaw, Kyle Rayner, Jack Knight, Tommy Monaghan off the top of my head.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:23 PM

The rats are leaving the sinking ship. Marvel needs to look internally to see the glaring problems people have already pointed out or itll be too late for them.

But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:46 PM

 

let him create his own, maybe?

 

Has creating an all-new character gone well for DC in the past 20 years, no matter the writer?

 

 

Has it? You tell me, I gave up on DC's books ten years ago. The only one I've bought between then and now is Scooby Apocalypse.



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Posted 07 November 2017 - 06:58 PM

I will hear nothing bad said about Kenan Kong. Or Casey Brinke, for that matter.
(New Super-Man and Doom Patrol are both very good.)

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 08:17 PM

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Posted 07 November 2017 - 09:13 PM

I'm interested if he writes crime or street-level stories since that's what he's really good at. Put him in Detective Comics where Batman actually does some honest to goodness detective work. Or hell, put him in charge of the Question.


But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:13 PM

I wonder which DC hero he'll have date Kitty Pryde.

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I guess it depends how many Peters are Running around the DCU


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Posted 07 November 2017 - 10:48 PM

I really changed my opinion on him once I started reading books and stopped borrowing my opinion from the internet so much.

 

OK, Ultimate Spider-man is an amazing accomplishment. Like, seriously, it was pretty much the center axis of the otherwise tumultuous Ultimate Universe. You read it during Ultimatum and you would have no idea that the book's neighbor was next level poo-poo.

 

His transition from Alias to New Avengers was rough, wiping out much of the team in the poorly executed Avengers Disassembled, but the new team had enough new elements to warrant the "New" title and the book was one of Marvel's flagship's during some great years. Around Civil War he did one shows showing he learned the value of short format storytelling and thanks to (I imagine) some wikipedia he had come to understand the value of the characters he washed away. Hawkeye was back, and after some time away with him, he was cool! an icon of how you can't keep down a fan-favorite.

BUT is was kind of crappy that he hijacks Asgard away from JMS, and Age Of Ultron was just a weak storyline that I feel started Marvel's recent string of bad events. I haven't heard anything good about his run on GOTG, but I've been enjoying Defenders well enough, which makes sense since it's him back in his street-level roots. although the guest stars are tiring.

 

So who knows what he could do at DC? Hopefully editorial won't give him Carte Blanche, or perhaps he'll contribute to the very slowly moving Earth-1 project. Me? I'm fascinated - this could go either way. I'm not going to commit until I know more about his first book, but she it comes I'm going to ignore alls y'all and make up my own mind.


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Posted 08 November 2017 - 01:03 AM

I don't think I've read a Bendis comic since his awful Fear Itself tie-ins. They happened right around when Ultimate Peter Parker died, so that felt like a pretty good jumping off point in general. That marked the start of my Marvel reading declining to nothing.



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Posted 08 November 2017 - 07:11 AM

I really liked New Avengers when he started that, but it felt like everything changed almost immediately after, and never really settled into any sort of status quo as new events were pretty constant.

I feel like you can't even name an Avengers roster that stayed out for longer than a cup of coffee since he started.

Ultimate Spider-Man was great.

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