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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#41 Spark

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:33 PM

I sure missed all of this leaked stuff.

 

Is Wreckage the bad guy in Bee Movie? That seems like a reveal.

We know literally nothing about it.  It's just a name and a "TRANSFORMERS (Unreadable mess)" as a placeholder.  Everything else has pictures.  But that one is specifically referred to as "Stryker 2" twice, so it's not like "second Stryker figure of the line" or anything.


Edited by Spark, 27 July 2017 - 06:34 PM.

Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:37 PM

Fascinating. I don't know how many new toys of guys I already have I need, but we'll see! I've wanted a Leader Blackout as long as anybody. I kinda wish he were actually an MPM like some people guessed originally, but then an MPM shouldn't have his tail rotor as a hand weapon.



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Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:02 AM

BLACKOUT BLACKOUT BLACKOUT

 

BLACKOUT FOR THE BLACKOUT GOD

(Seriously he's one of the most memorable guys in movie 1 and shows off 3-4 extremely toyetic features, none of which can you really do with any of his full sized toys)


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:13 AM

Would be marvelous if Blackout actually had his chest cannon for once. He's got the tail rotor on his arm, so presumably he does something like the Cyberverse toy's flip-out rotor-saw thing.



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Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:44 AM

 

I sure missed all of this leaked stuff.

 

Is Wreckage the bad guy in Bee Movie? That seems like a reveal.

We know literally nothing about it.  It's just a name and a "TRANSFORMERS (Unreadable mess)" as a placeholder.  Everything else has pictures.  But that one is specifically referred to as "Stryker 2" twice, so it's not like "second Stryker figure of the line" or anything.

 

 

Can't wait til it turns out it's Z, not 2

 

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:42 AM

 

Guys who haven't gotten toys since ~DotM might get new molds since Hasbro seems against using older toys for whatever reason.

They don't fit current budgets except in special cases, like store exclusives.

 

Well, Fortress Maximus is a retool of a toy from three lines ago.  Actually, so is PMOP come to think of it  Redecos of old toys are basically free revenue so long as they actually sell, there just isn't anything else they could put in CW or TR due to the standardized nature of the gimmicks, and PotP is just CW2: Electric Boogaloo, so expect more of the same.

 

I also suspect that they kinda wore out their goodwill with buyers by the shameless amount of repaints they did circa 2008-2009, which is probably why mold reuses are being pretooled now.  Kinda shot themselves in the foot by allowing buyers to special-order assortments too.  "Oh, lets just order a zillion cases of wave 1 and 2 with the Decepticon beasts removed!  We're so clever!"


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:22 AM

 

 

Guys who haven't gotten toys since ~DotM might get new molds since Hasbro seems against using older toys for whatever reason.

They don't fit current budgets except in special cases, like store exclusives.

 

Well, Fortress Maximus is a retool of a toy from three lines ago.  Actually, so is PMOP come to think of it  Redecos of old toys are basically free revenue so long as they actually sell, there just isn't anything else they could put in CW or TR due to the standardized nature of the gimmicks, and PotP is just CW2: Electric Boogaloo, so expect more of the same.

 

I also suspect that they kinda wore out their goodwill with buyers by the shameless amount of repaints they did circa 2008-2009, which is probably why mold reuses are being pretooled now.  Kinda shot themselves in the foot by allowing buyers to special-order assortments too.  "Oh, lets just order a zillion cases of wave 1 and 2 with the Decepticon beasts removed!  We're so clever!"

I'm not sure what you're arguing here, if you are indeed arguing anything.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:33 AM

Im just hoping the Leader Blackout replaces Cyberverse Blackout as my favorite toy of the character. Seriously, that thing is amazing.

Also hoping Jazz has forearms more substantial than two hinged panels.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:58 AM

The new mold thing seems to come from the fact that there are no Starscream and Optimus that both look like that and are the same size so at least one has to be new.

ROTF Voyager Starscream and his repaints and HFTD Battle Blades Optimus and his repaints?



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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:04 AM

BLACKOUT BLACKOUT BLACKOUT

 

BLACKOUT FOR THE BLACKOUT GOD

(Seriously he's one of the most memorable guys in movie 1 and shows off 3-4 extremely toyetic features, none of which can you really do with any of his full sized toys)

 

The original voyager has breaks-very-easily action, which is accurate to the film.


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:36 PM

I'm definitely excited for a Leader Blackout, and I really hope there are Voyagers of Brawl and Bonecrusher. I love the Movie 1 Decepticons. I would really love to see them at a better range of scales compared to all the rest of the movie figures.

 

Really, it's pretty much the Decepticons across all the movies that I want to see more of. I'd love to see more of the Constructicons, Alice, Crowbar, Stinger, Mohawk, Dreadbot, and Onslaught. A good Leader Demolishor would be wonderful.



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Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:49 PM

Well, Fortress Maximus is a retool of a toy from three lines ago.  Actually, so is PMOP come to think of it  Redecos of old toys are basically free revenue so long as they actually sell, there just isn't anything else they could put in CW or TR due to the standardized nature of the gimmicks, and PotP is just CW2: Electric Boogaloo, so expect more of the same.
 
I also suspect that they kinda wore out their goodwill with buyers by the shameless amount of repaints they did circa 2008-2009, which is probably why mold reuses are being pretooled now.  Kinda shot themselves in the foot by allowing buyers to special-order assortments too.  "Oh, lets just order a zillion cases of wave 1 and 2 with the Decepticon beasts removed!  We're so clever!"

I'm not sure what you're arguing here, if you are indeed arguing anything.

Yeah, not only are those very recent molds being heavily retooled, but ... they're heavy retools. The current budget, if it differs, is built in. That's a very different thing from a mold that's 10 years old or something, and we do indeed only see those in cases where the price point is unique to the occasion, like the various "evolution" themed packs over the years and the Tribute line with its 2007 Optimus. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 07:12 PM

I'm not sure what you're arguing here, if you are indeed arguing anything.

 

 

 

That "(per-figure parts/assembly/materials) budget" is a non-reason for not reusing a product that has already had its engineering, sculpting, and most importantly tooling fully paid for.  If they can get away with repaints and reissues, they will, because again, they can sell an old Deluxe wholesale for ten bucks after manufacturing it for a dollar, it's literally free money.  They just can't get away with it because A) they boxed themselves out of it with the linewide gimmicks, so anything reused has to be retooled to the point where it's almost a new figure (and yet... they still did it to save on sculpting and engineering), and B) retailers are still salty about the mass amounts of liquidated inventory from Universe and RotF.  The former doesn't apply to a Movie 10th Anniversary line, so I think they'll be willing to risk the latter.



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Posted 28 July 2017 - 07:37 PM

Do retailers even notice, let alone care, that the same molds are used? Is that even on their radar? It's a new product because it says so on the box and people buy it. 

 

I think you're either overestimating the ease of producing these things or misreading how the costs are amortized. Later releases of a mold in the same line have, indeed, often seemed to receive more paint applications, and we know that the reason every mold gets released in at least two decos is to cover the initial investment. But a more complex figure is still more factory time. 

 

Edit: "Free" things tend to have opportunity costs. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 28 July 2017 - 07:37 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:07 PM

If they can get away with repaints and reissues, they will, because again, they can sell an old Deluxe wholesale for ten bucks after manufacturing it for a dollar, it's literally free money.

No, if those are the actual numbers (which I rather strongly suspect they are not) then it's money that cost a dollar.

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:19 PM

If this new line is indeed composed of new molds, I hope to see new molds of the Constructicons and that can actually combine! (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall only the Legends version can combine)I mean, its a long shot, but a man can dream, right?

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Posted 28 July 2017 - 11:16 PM

Copper already said it. More parts is more labor for more assembly. More parts is also generally more weight for shipping. Labor and shipping are where costs have skyrocketed. The tooling being made is great but doesn't really matter.

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Posted 29 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

Aren't licensing fees for the movie's real-world alt-modes also a factor? I recall that being mentioned somewhere as one of the reasons why non-Bumblebee/Optimus movie molds rarely get reused.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:20 AM

Blurry images but it's something I guess.

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Posted 22 October 2017 - 06:42 AM

Oh, right, these were in the Forbidden Leak. Wave 2 of what seemed to be Voyagers.

EDIT: I feel like this will become The Thread for this line, so here's what we know from the leak:

DELUXE
Wave 1
- TF6 "Stryker 2"
- TF4 Stinger
- TF1 Ratchet
- TF3 Crowbar
Wave 2
- TF1 Jazz
- TF4 Lockdown
(The leak was almost certainly missing a slide with extra waves)

VOYAGER
Wave 1
- TF1 Starscream
- TF2 Optimus Prime
Wave 2
- TF2 Megatron
- TF1 Brawl
Wave 3
- TF1 Ironhide
Wave 4
- TF2 Starscream

LEADER
- TF4 Grimlock
- TF1 Blackout

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