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@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

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Oops, All Berries

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Nope, Chuck Berry

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Nope, Chuck Testa.

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Generations Nightbeat never really scratched that itch sadly; he looked okay, but his transformation was fiddly, his robot mode had far too many bits and pieces flopping around unsecured, and his chest dragged along the surface in var mode. =/

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:57 AM)

I second wishing that we got a Deluxe Nightbeat from TR, mostly because as a kid he was second-in-command to my old Powermaster Optimus for the longest time. =P

@  tigerhawk : (08 May 2021 - 05:41 AM)

Wipe Out and Wilder it coulda been: Wipe Out is down in the dumps because the Scramble City Trypticon was destroyed and left him a drifting to the point he arrives in Legends World, he finds Wilder and both go on a crime spree subverted by their realisation neither gets any joy from it until they stop a violent crook together and become anti heroes. (Bass XO beat me!)

@  Bass X0 : (08 May 2021 - 05:39 AM)

Yes, Nightbeat and Siren would have been easy remolds of Chromedome - just give them new chests and each other's Titan Master heads. Fangry and Squeezeplay would be remolded from Twinferno with their own Titan Master heads. And Horri-Bull would have been remolded from Wolfwire.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:14 PM

The idea of whole new deluxe Jazz intrigues me.  The original wasn't great even by 2007 standards, and I'm really interested what more current design teams would do with the character design.


I just hope they keep/update Deluxe Jazz's cool arm transformation.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:20 PM

Huh. Bonecrusher is, like, the one '07 Con i don't feel needs replacing. I mean, i can see how he'd be improved, but compared to gunhands Screamer, huge backpacking Blackout, and loose arms Brawl, old Bonesy got everything right the first time.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:22 PM

I was under the impression that this would be a mostly-reissues line with a few new molds. The Deluxes and Leaders seemed to mostly line up with earlier releases.

Hopefully they do take the opportunity to get some necessary reissues out, and perhaps debut some Takara tooling in the US for guys like Dino and Dispenser.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:59 PM

I was under the impression that this would be a mostly-reissues line with a few new molds. The Deluxes and Leaders seemed to mostly line up with earlier releases.

Hopefully they do take the opportunity to get some necessary reissues out, and perhaps debut some Takara tooling in the US for guys like Dino and Dispenser.

We don't really know what it is, exactly.  The Grimlock and Blackout molds are new, but everything else looks like it's either a reissue or just a placeholder.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:55 PM

Yeah, I don't get the assumption that most/all of these are going to be new molds. That seems...not really possible under the current financial model of how they do things. I'd assume a couple token new molds (Blackout and Grimlock) and I'd pegged everyone else as being a retool or redeco. I do like that with Stinger and Crowbar listed there, there seems to be an active effort to finish off each line, though.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:03 PM

The new mold thing seems to come from the fact that there are no Starscream and Optimus that both look like that and are the same size so at least one has to be new.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:11 PM

Much like the Power of the Primes stuff, I think a chunk of these are placeholder images.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:13 PM

Much like the Power of the Primes stuff, I think a chunk of these are placeholder images.

I have to go through the images when I get home, but the optimus looked like an actual toy and unlike previous versions



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:23 PM

Crowbar at least is probably just going to be Berserker with a new head... which maybe might be why they went with him over someone like Mohawk or whoever in the first place? (well, with the deluxe at least)

Guys who haven't gotten toys since ~DotM might get new molds since Hasbro seems against using older toys for whatever reason.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:34 PM

I don't have any interest in movie toys. But in terms of repaints that might be usable as non-movie toys, a Western release of the black repaint of DOTM deluxe Soundwave would be nice (ideally with a gun and losing the daft Decepticon tampo), and maybe Cogman in a more interesting colour scheme with any contrast whatsoever.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:36 PM

Yeah, I don't get the assumption that most/all of these are going to be new molds. That seems...not really possible under the current financial model of how they do things. I'd assume a couple token new molds (Blackout and Grimlock) and I'd pegged everyone else as being a retool or redeco. I do like that with Stinger and Crowbar listed there, there seems to be an active effort to finish off each line, though.


My guess was that Stinger could be the same as the Takara one, and Crowbar seems to have Crankcase's SUV altmode in the photo, although sure, placeholder possible.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 02:58 PM

I have the the Takara Stringer and I really do love him.  I know he's just a recolor of Bumblebee, but the colors work so well on him.  That being said, I'm in full support of a more accurate Stinger mold.

 

I am most looking forward to Blackout though.  He's probably my favorite movie design and really just needed to be bigger.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:07 PM

I'm happy for those who like Blackout but I've no need for him. A proper Pagani Stinger, though, would be super cool.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:12 PM

Guys who haven't gotten toys since ~DotM might get new molds since Hasbro seems against using older toys for whatever reason.

They don't fit current budgets except in special cases, like store exclusives.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:31 PM

Movie 1 guys who haven't gotten (full sized) toys since rotf is just: Brawl, Bonecrusher, Blackout and Jazz.

 

Actually, did Frenzy get one? Was there a Frenzy with the DOTM Barricade?



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:35 PM

Movie 1 guys who haven't gotten (full sized) toys since rotf is just: Brawl, Bonecrusher, Blackout and Jazz.

 

Actually, did Frenzy get one? Was there a Frenzy with the DOTM Barricade?

 

And leader Brawl is still a great figure.

 

It looks like the HA Frenzy figure was reissued in 2015 as part of an Asia Premium 2-pack with Soundwave, but I don't know if it was any different than the first release of the same figure.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:41 PM

Is there a link to the list somewhere? I can't find it.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 03:56 PM

Is there a link to the list somewhere? I can't find it.

All the links are gone, but it's this:

 

Deluxes:

Wave 1

TF6 Stryker 2 (for reference, Stryker 1 is technically 2007 Wreckage if they've still got some preproduction names floating around)

TF4 Stinger

TF1 Ratchet

TF3 Crowbar

 

Wave 2

TF1 Jazz

TF4 Lockdown

TF6 Stryker 2

TF4 Stinger

 

??? (Voyager?  No name on slides.)

Wave 1

TF1 Starscream

TF2 Optimus

 

Wave 2

TF2 Megatron

TF2 Brawl

 

Wave 3

TF1 Ironhide

 

Wave 4

TF2 Starscream

 

Leader: (No name visible, but actual toy pictures speak for themselves)

Wave 1

TF4 Grimlock

Wave 2

TF1 Blackout


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:49 PM

This sounds siitably intriguing. There's certainly a few bots there that, should they be new molds, or simply new releases of japan only figures, i definitely would want them.

A new Jazz? Sure. New version of Stinger or simply the evil Bee Takara deco? Yes. Leadfoot? Definitely.

Blockout sounds interesting, but i'm not sure. He's a maybe for now.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:22 PM

I sure missed all of this leaked stuff.

 

Is Wreckage the bad guy in Bee Movie? That seems like a reveal.





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