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@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

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English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

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English needs to revive book in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

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English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

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English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Ģorn in everyday text.

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Generations Nightbeat never really scratched that itch sadly; he looked okay, but his transformation was fiddly, his robot mode had far too many bits and pieces flopping around unsecured, and his chest dragged along the surface in var mode. =/

@  Demovere Xeno : (08 May 2021 - 08:57 AM)

I second wishing that we got a Deluxe Nightbeat from TR, mostly because as a kid he was second-in-command to my old Powermaster Optimus for the longest time. =P

@  tigerhawk : (08 May 2021 - 05:41 AM)

Wipe Out and Wilder it coulda been: Wipe Out is down in the dumps because the Scramble City Trypticon was destroyed and left him a drifting to the point he arrives in Legends World, he finds Wilder and both go on a crime spree subverted by their realisation neither gets any joy from it until they stop a violent crook together and become anti heroes. (Bass XO beat me!)

@  Bass X0 : (08 May 2021 - 05:39 AM)

Yes, Nightbeat and Siren would have been easy remolds of Chromedome - just give them new chests and each other's Titan Master heads. Fangry and Squeezeplay would be remolded from Twinferno with their own Titan Master heads. And Horri-Bull would have been remolded from Wolfwire.


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#1 Octavius Prime

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:51 AM

So, in the one SDCC interview, John Warden indicates that more movie stuff (not TLK) is to be shown at Hascon; it's hard not to think that it will be the leaked list from last week.

So, of the leaked characters, which are you most happy about? Which do you really not care for and would rather see replaced by another character or design?

I think my favorite thing so far about this line is the loose scale they are implementing. The only character that kind of seems out of place is Ratchet; I always think of him and Ironhide as supposed to be the same size in bot mode. But it's great that they saved the leader class for characters who are supposed to be huge, and all the voyager characters are close to the same size in bot mode.

The one character I think I'm most looking forward to is Stinger since he didn't get a real toy for AoE. He isn't much of a character but he looks great and is a neat concept. Blackout is a close second, of course; it seems like they switched him and Brawl and that should have been the case back in 2007.

I am sort of disappointed that Megatron is in his ROTF form. His ROTF voyager was pretty good, though I do hope this new one does not rely on kibble wings and has a more accurate bot mode as a result. I think I would have preffered his 2007 design as I think they could make a much betfer toy of it if it didnt have to accomodate the claw-wings gimmick and ice parts.

Im also surprised to not see Bumblebee, but I figure they plan to remold Stinger into him eventually.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:59 AM

Crowbar. All the better if he gets a reshell into Dreadbot.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:49 AM

Honestly, I hope they also end up using this line as a chance to re-release some of the molds that never came here before- like Que, Soundwave, Leadfoot and probably Cogman.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:03 AM

Blackout and Grimlock

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:04 AM

Leader Blackout is the only one that interested me, and that's mostly because he's got an actual toy design and not just a render.

But I made the hard switch to Cyberverse during DotM, so unless we see small scale stuff (Tiny Titan Changers!) I'd probably just pass on it all.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:12 AM

I've limited my movie collection to just the cast of the first film, so Blackout is definitely the (word meaning the thing where dogs' ears perk up) figure for me here.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:24 AM

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:25 AM

Blackout is pretty much the only thing I care about in that particular chunk of leaks.  I probably already have better (or the same) versions of everything else.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:34 AM

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 09:50 AM

I think I'm also intrigued by what the voyager Optimus will look like

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:51 AM

The idea of whole new deluxe Jazz intrigues me.  The original wasn't great even by 2007 standards, and I'm really interested what more current design teams would do with the character design.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:58 AM

I'd love a better looking toy of 66 Camaro Bumblebee from AOE. I really liked the look of that car and wish that the existing toy didn't look so weird in robot mode.

Other than that, new Jazz and Blackout sound interesting.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:16 AM

 

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.

 

 

Bonecrusher is the worst Movie 1 Decepticon toy, imo. Blackout's not great, but its still better and have at least a few gimmick to excuse some of that, and Brawl got a leader class toy since his Deluxe toy is nullified. 


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:20 AM

 

 

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.

 

 

Bonecrusher is the worst Movie 1 Decepticon toy, imo. Blackout's not great, but its still better and have at least a few gimmick to excuse some of that, and Brawl got a leader class toy since his Deluxe toy is nullified. 

 

Bonecrusher is still a better toy than any of Megatron's Movie 1 design toys.



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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

 

 

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.

 

 

Bonecrusher is the worst Movie 1 Decepticon toy, imo. Blackout's not great, but its still better and have at least a few gimmick to excuse some of that, and Brawl got a leader class toy since his Deluxe toy is nullified. 

 

Bonecrusher > Swindle.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:46 AM

Blackout's the only one I'll buy, most likely. I want them to make a new Bonecrusher.


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:05 PM

 

 

 

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.

 

 

Bonecrusher is the worst Movie 1 Decepticon toy, imo. Blackout's not great, but its still better and have at least a few gimmick to excuse some of that, and Brawl got a leader class toy since his Deluxe toy is nullified. 

 

Bonecrusher is still a better toy than any of Megatron's Movie 1 design toys.

 

 

I tend to forget about the Movie 1 designs for him since as a Character Megatron does get some better toys from other movies, so he's not a character I think of when I think 'needs a better representation' since at the very least his DOTM and TLK toys are good. 

 

 

 

 

Bonecrusher seriously needs a better toy. 

 

I do love me my deluxe Bonecrusher but I sure wouldn't turn down a Voyager one.

 

 

Bonecrusher is the worst Movie 1 Decepticon toy, imo. Blackout's not great, but its still better and have at least a few gimmick to excuse some of that, and Brawl got a leader class toy since his Deluxe toy is nullified. 

 

Bonecrusher > Swindle.

 

 

Never owned that mold, so you might be right there. Though I kinda blank out on the non-movie characters regardless, even ones I own and really like... 


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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:11 PM

Jazz may have my favorite design of the movie-folk, so even though I don't see my Human Alliance figure going anywhere, I'm just excited to find out what they do with him.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:14 PM

I don't know what the problem is with Bonecrusher, other than being too small. 

 

I mean he has the incredible huggy stretchy arms and his cool scorpion tail weapon that's pretty much accurate to the film. 

 

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