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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not


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#1 Xaaron

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:30 PM

With the recent passing of the official Collector's Club and BotCon conventions, I wanted to take some time and acknowledge how those "official fan groups" affected the brand as a whole. Whether we're talking BotCon, 3H, or Fun Pub, what are some characters, body designs, or ideas that originated in the conventions or fan media that ended up being used elsewhere? Here's what I can think of initially...

 

- Universal streams: Love 'em or hate 'em, the universal stream system has helped define and categorize the Transformers multiverse. And with its use in Alternity material, the idea has spread beyond Fun Publications and the Wiki.

 

- Nexus Prime: Chicken or the egg? The Thirteen in general is one of those concepts that evolved through both the fan clubs AND traditional media. The idea of Thirteen original Transformers may have been sparked by Simon Furman with 3H's Covenant stories, but officially written down in the mass-media The Ultimate Guide. Then Fun Pub expanded the idea with their magazine, but certainly only with Hasbro's approval.

 

Still, whoever first came up with the idea of the Thirteen (3H, Fun Pub, Hasbro, Simon Furman on his own in the john), Nexus Prime was certainly defined by the first five years of Fun Publications magazine as the original Combiner. Their presentation of him obviously influenced the Aligned representations of him in the Covenant of Primus, prose novels, and even the IDW version.

 

- Shokaract and Antagony: Created for BotCon during the 3H years, these two Beast Wars recolors were used in IDW's Beast Wars comics. Antagony has also reappeared in the main IDW continuity as a supporting player in the Hasbroverse's First Strike crossover.

 

- Roulette and Red Wing: Adapted into IDW comics continuity.

 

- Windrazor: Hidden character in the Beast Wars: Transmetals N64 game.

 

- Alpha Trion: Lion and spaceship alternate modes introduced by 3H and Fun Pub, respectively.

 

- Shattered Glass Masterpiece Optimus Prime

 

- Rapido: is Spanish!

 

- Cyberverse Flamewar

 

- Hero Mashers Heatwave

 

- Ferak: BotCon design used in IDW comics

 

- Animated Flareup, Glyph, and Tap-Out

 

Other additions?


Edited by Xaaron, 14 September 2017 - 07:03 PM.


#2 Locoman

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:38 PM

There was a drink called the "Grand Uprising" in one of the recent OP issues.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:38 PM

3H's OTFCC Roulette migrated into the IDW G1 continuity, as did FP's Red Wing.

Shattered Glass as a concept went somewhat more mainstream with a namesake event in the Legends mobile game.

3H first conceptualized G1 Alpha Trion with a lion alt-mode in their Beast Era continuity, followed by FP doing SG Alpha Trion with a spaceship alt-mode.

Two English names from Ask Vector Prime Facebook for characters in the Chinese Transformers Online MMO made it into IDW's Shining Armor.

And this probably falls more under first to be done than influencing other creators, but 3H was the first to depict the RiD Commandos as affiliates of Unicron, and FP was the first to depict G1-based incarnations of RiD Sky-Byte and Armada Tidal Wave.

Edited by SHIELD Agent 47, 14 September 2017 - 02:50 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:39 PM

Hasbro Asia released Shattered Glass MP Prime.

 

While it's not something I expect to continue, it marks the first time a branded SG toy was released without FunPub's involvement.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:39 PM

I wanna point out that the initial 5-year arc of Club comics that delved into the 13 and etc came from Forrest Lee, who was from Hasbro, not a fan brought in by FP. Which muddies those waters a shade.

 

Roulette is in the IDW comics and not dead! And a female Shadow Striker did pop up in the Revenge of the Fallen toyline.

 

Rapido's Spanish heritage returned in United EX.

 

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:49 PM

Flamewar also got a toy in the Prime Cyberverse line.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:14 PM

Hero Masher Heatwave.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:15 PM

In that vein, Universe Skywarp (BM Jetstorm recolor) first appeared in the 3H comics.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:29 PM

In that vein, Universe Skywarp (BM Jetstorm recolor) first appeared in the 3H comics.

 

As memory serves, there was a few items in that first Universe line came from Glen. Like, not "he put in a comic first then Hasbro made it" but "Glen proposed it specifically for the toyline and Hasbro made it"

 

 

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:36 PM

 

In that vein, Universe Skywarp (BM Jetstorm recolor) first appeared in the 3H comics.

 

As memory serves, there was a few items in that first Universe line came from Glen. Like, not "he put in a comic first then Hasbro made it" but "Glen proposed it specifically for the toyline and Hasbro made it"

 

 

M "Another Weird... Moosh Of Con/Hasbro Sourcing" Sipher

 

Interesting, if true, but didn't it take about three years for the Skywarp toy to finally come out?  My notes say he appeared in their comic in 2001, and the toy came out in 2004.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:39 PM

I don't have the relevant dialogue to show right now, but I swear that Earth Wars has acknowledged the Shroud's presence on the multiverse.

Sideswipe appeared in his G2-style BotCon 2010 toy design in The Death of Optimus Prime from IDW. And Ferak appeared in his BotCon 2014 toy design in the 2017 Transformers annual IDW.

Edited by SHIELD Agent 47, 14 September 2017 - 03:40 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:42 PM

I don't have the relevant dialogue to show right now, but I swear that Earth Wars has acknowledged the Shroud's presence on the multiverse.

Sideswipe appeared in his G2-style BotCon 2010 toy design in The Death of Optimus Prime from IDW. And Ferak appeared in his BotCon 2014 toy design in the 2017 Transformers annual IDW.

Hrmm?

 

Do you at least have a quote on the Shroud thing?



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:46 PM

Animated Flareup.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:09 PM

Speaking of which, Prime Flamewar!


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:31 PM

Animated had quite a few. Glyph comes to mind.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:51 PM

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:07 PM

Onyx Prime.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:18 PM

 

- Universal streams: Love 'em or hate 'em, the universal stream system has helped define and categorize the Transformers multiverse. And with its use in Alternity material, the idea has spread beyond Fun Publications and the Wiki.

 

And makes the Wikia completely unreadable to pretty much anyone that might need to read a Wiki.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:27 PM

The name "Quickslinger" being applied to Transformers.



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Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:35 PM

I liked the TFCC Quickslinger, I gave it and Skorponok/Scamper both to Trypticon.  For a while, I only knew 'Wreckers' though Botcon and FunPub stuff, I had no knowledge of it elsewhere until quite a bit later.  I don't know if they re-popularized it, though.





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