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@  Maximus Ambus : (19 October 2020 - 07:38 AM)

Greasepit for the Sports Car Patrol, Airwave for the Airstrike Patrol, Hot House for the Rescue Patrol, Ironworks for ????

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 October 2020 - 04:09 AM)

My local Walmart FINALLY got a restock of Generations during the early September reset and got a big shipment of Earthrise wave 1 (the first I’d seen around here). IF, and that’s a big IF, they restock I’m expecting a bunch of wave 3. Or wave 2. But we’ll be skipping one of those waves.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 October 2020 - 04:08 AM)

Barricade hanging around

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 October 2020 - 04:08 AM)

Brunt barely appeared here at all, wave 3 was pretty much skipped for a big load of wave 4, with Impactor and

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Brunt is shelfwarming around me. One walmart moved the whole lot of them off to a side shelf, but couldn't be added to liquidate them.

@  unluckiness : (18 October 2020 - 09:01 PM)

Ironworks is a plague. No idea if it was overproduced or if nobody wants it but thing's clogging shelves.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2020 - 04:23 PM)

My walmart the few times I go in will be lucky to have two or three transformers period.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 October 2020 - 10:29 AM)

I mostly just see walls of Ironworks. And the occassional Siege Hound.

@  Paladin : (18 October 2020 - 08:44 AM)

condolences.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 08:40 AM)

My local Symths is still chock full of Earthrise wave 1.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2020 - 08:24 AM)

Yup, generally so much they don't bother with any other waves as the existing stock doesn't sell out.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:56 AM)

All the damn time.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:56 AM)

If there's anything there's going to be plenty of stock, it's wave 1.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:56 AM)

I'm really not worried about wave 1 of a new line EVER.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 October 2020 - 07:47 AM)

At least you got listings for kingdom. walmart canada won't list them until they're actually in stock and that could very well never happen. I'm gonna get mine from BBTS cause I'm not missing out on the maximals.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:32 AM)

And I don't buy the "they all sold out" explanation. The Kingdom figures are still listed.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:32 AM)

I don't see any of Friday's reveals at Walmart.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:23 AM)

There's a difference between "sold out" and "no trace of a listing".

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:23 AM)

There is still a listing for the scalped and sold out Walmart exclusive limited edition version of Gigawatt.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 07:22 AM)

But there should still be a listing.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 October 2020 - 06:30 AM)

Probably got scalped and sold out in seconds.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 04:10 AM)

And I don't see links anywhere either.

@  Nevermore : (18 October 2020 - 04:10 AM)

So did Walmart somehow fail put up the Headmasters preorders as promised by Hasbro, or have the listings been taken down again? I cannot find them.

@  Kalidor : (18 October 2020 - 03:02 AM)

My Depth Charge is signed by David Sobolov on the wing.

@  Echowarrior : (16 October 2020 - 09:51 PM)

So do I, and I am one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 October 2020 - 07:33 PM)

I need an adult.

@  -LittleAutob... : (16 October 2020 - 11:26 AM)

Watching people talk here is satisfying-

@  wonko the sane? : (16 October 2020 - 05:57 AM)

Nope, just awesome 80's metal hair.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 October 2020 - 12:17 PM)

Feathered Depthcharge? Does he turn into a fish with feathers?

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2020 - 11:57 AM)

i've seen fan vids of feathered Dinobot and Depthcharge (which got a top comment by someone who claims to be his voice actor) which show how CG progressed.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 October 2020 - 08:01 AM)

A great story, and characters which more than make up for the now dated looking (but still clean and fluid.) CGI.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 October 2020 - 03:31 AM)

Thanks to Kingdom I've been rewatching Beast Wars. Still tops.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 October 2020 - 03:19 AM)

If they manage to tie GI Joe into Transformers like I hear they're trying to do, and it manages to put Joe product on the shelves again? I will totally forgive even the worst movie ever.

@  Telly : (15 October 2020 - 12:58 AM)

they LOOK cool, but i dont like the size. i grew up in the late 70s and early 80s where action figure size was 3 3/4, so thats what i prefer

@  fourteenwings : (15 October 2020 - 12:32 AM)

I think the new G.I. Joe Classified figures are pretty cool.

@  Telly : (14 October 2020 - 07:11 PM)

speaking of gi joe, just bought my first gi joe figure since...2011? whenever the 30th anniversary/pursuit of cobra was. got the so-called "retro" storm shadow. only got him cause i missed the ultimate version way back when

@  wonko the sane? : (14 October 2020 - 02:13 PM)

He has to say something eventually...

@  Bass X0 : (14 October 2020 - 02:11 PM)

New G.I. Joe anything has been a disappointment. The biggest of which is what I hear they will do with SnakeEyes.

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The disappointment of the new GI Joe game has been offset by the arrival of PRINNYS!

@  Nevermore : (14 October 2020 - 10:45 AM)

Sure, but as a unionized worker myself, it's a hot button topic for me.

@  Steevy Maximus : (14 October 2020 - 10:44 AM)

In fairness, there are FAR more pressing issues than whether a multinational company decides to use cheaper non-union VA for their cartoons

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 October 2020 - 07:24 AM)

That isn't contradictory because "most ethical companies" is just a comparison to other companies. It's like being the fastest snail.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 October 2020 - 03:50 AM)

Was Hasbro in charge of the voice casting?

@  Nevermore : (14 October 2020 - 12:27 AM)

Doesn't sound very ethical to me.

@  Nevermore : (14 October 2020 - 12:26 AM)

Wasn't Hasbro once awarded as one of the "most ethical companies"?

@  Sabrblade : (13 October 2020 - 10:43 AM)

Jason Marsden wasn't too thrilled about it either, in the case of Rescue Bots Academy

@  Paladin : (13 October 2020 - 07:09 AM)

the Netflix show is done with non-union VAs. Cullen & Welker both objected to this before Siege came out. everyone's forgotten already...

@  Sabrblade : (13 October 2020 - 01:12 AM)

More likely they'll all just be recast with local VAs like how Primal was voiced by Ron Perlman in POTP.

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 October 2020 - 12:09 AM)

Gary Chalk, Ian James Corlett, VenusTerzo and Blu Mankuma would be welcome. Chances are, the Beast Wars characters will be unused or a speechless legion referencing their use in IDW1.

@  Steevy Maximus : (12 October 2020 - 05:01 PM)

I'd rather get David Kaye back for Megatron.


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So, that 1994 "Fantastic Four" movie...


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 08:21 PM

 

Anyone else see it? I'm making my way through it now. 

 

Kinda crazy to think about Roger Corman even coming close to a Marvel property, but here it is. 



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Posted 02 September 2017 - 09:33 PM

Saw it a million years ago but it didn't leave much of an impression I guess.

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 10:42 PM

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 11:04 PM

The documentary "DOOMED" about the making of this has been on hulu for a while now...its well worth a watch.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:51 AM

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.

I've seen different sources go back and forth as to what the disposition of the original prints are. 

 

Most agree that someone - likely Marvel - ordered the destruction of as many prints as they could obtain. 

 

Some sources hold that what we have now we have because a single print managed to survive, while other sources hold that what we have is derived from an unofficial copy or even a bootleg that slipped out. 

 

If it's the latter, then there may not be a surviving master Shout could get the footage from. 



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:53 AM

Seen it once.

 

It is what it is.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:58 AM

I can't be too hard on it mainly because I've never been a huge FF fan and I think they work best as part of the bigger Marvel universe. Putting them as the only superhumans somehow doesn't work for me, whilst making them do gooders with success and good publicity works well to balance the vigilante style heroes elsewhere.



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:39 AM

I mean, it's not a GREAT film by any stretch. But in the context of the "quality" of Marvel adaptions we were seeing to that point (and for several years after)...it is simply astounding at the authenticity it had to the base property. This was "completed" in 1994, yet we wouldn't get a good superhero adaption of a Marvel property until X-Men in 2000, and the argument could be made we didn't get a film with this sort of reverence for its source material until Spider-Man in 2002.

And for all its many flaws, it is still a fundamentally decent little Fantastic Four film, marred more by its own lack of budget and the quality of some of the actors than any real failures in its script or production design (within the context of its limited budget). And compared to the films we ended up getting from Fox (with several orders of magnitude more of a budget), I think this still stands as a good adaption of the property.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:50 PM

 

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.

I've seen different sources go back and forth as to what the disposition of the original prints are. 

 

Most agree that someone - likely Marvel - ordered the destruction of as many prints as they could obtain. 

 

Some sources hold that what we have now we have because a single print managed to survive, while other sources hold that what we have is derived from an unofficial copy or even a bootleg that slipped out. 

 

If it's the latter, then there may not be a surviving master Shout could get the footage 

 

 

This is finally explained in the DOOMED! documentary. One of the crew...I forget who...took a copy of it to get copied, and it leaked out from there,


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:09 PM

This is damning with faint praise, but it's still the best live-action FF we've had up to now.

 

When Alex Hyde-White popped up in a cameo in Agents Of SHIELD, I was hoping that was Marvel Studios' little nod to the Corman film, but it was probably just coincidence.



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 10:01 AM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.

Certainly better than the Chronicle guys one

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:04 AM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.

Certainly better than the Chronicle guys one

 

They could have been better, but they did a really damn good job with Human Torch and Thing, and Silver Surfer in the second one. Personally, aside from Galactus Clod, I think the second one is a vast improvement over the first one. 


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:13 PM

The Thing suit is way better in the Corman version than in the first 2 FOX movies. But then, Corman had decades of prior experience in making creature costumes for zero dollars....



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:21 PM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.


Wait was Raimi Spider-man even all that dark?

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 04:18 PM

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

Probably not, but it had its moments.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 03:50 AM

 

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.


Wait was Raimi Spider-man even all that dark?

 

 

Campy.

Very.

Very.

Campy.

 

I was cringing my way through it a few weeks ago when I watched it on a lark. Some movies age, other movies age well. Raimi's Spider-Man...it's kind of like putting on Tim Burton's Batman film and discovering the Adam West Batman film instead.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:46 AM

Now I simply have to see it again.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:18 AM

Burton's Batman feels a lot campier in this day and age of high-quality superhero films, too.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:40 AM

I love this movie. Best FF movie yet in my opinion. 

 

The documentary "Doomed" is also a great watch.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:09 AM

Burton's Batman feels a lot campier in this day and age of high-quality superhero films, too.

Burton's Batman was dark but not serious.


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