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@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

And then there was the Writers' Strike, which isn't the show's fault.

@  Cybersnark : (17 June 2021 - 04:40 PM)

Yeah, Sylar should've been, if not killed off, at least left to rest.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

It never truly recovered from that.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Season 1 was good until the finale.

@  Paladin : (17 June 2021 - 09:37 AM)

because it sucked.

@  tigerhawk : (17 June 2021 - 08:58 AM)

Heroes was cancelled twice.

@  Nevermore : (17 June 2021 - 06:33 AM)

The song's official name is "Holding Out for a Hero".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 June 2021 - 12:54 AM)

That's a long time to wait for a sandwich.

@  Maruten : (16 June 2021 - 07:13 PM)

Lucky there's a hero arriving in July.

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 June 2021 - 05:38 PM)

I think I've heard "I Need a Hero" more times this past week than I have in the past several years.

@  tigerhawk : (16 June 2021 - 12:41 PM)

Thanks to Earthrise I can recreate the end of Return of Optimus Prime part 1.

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I wish they would do something like that here: but then it would become obvious in which provinces you're getting gouged.

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Here in Germany, the price you see is the price you pay, tax included.

@  Nevermore : (16 June 2021 - 10:42 AM)

I always find it weaird hearing that stores in the US don't initially already taxes in their prices.

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You know what's kewl? Poor literacy.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 June 2021 - 04:31 PM)

Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

@  CORVUS : (15 June 2021 - 04:12 PM)

Kewl. Thanks!

@  Kalidor : (15 June 2021 - 02:08 PM)

Hey everybody! I wanted to announce that Sarahthecutevixen is our newest addition to the Allspark staff. She's primarily looking over discord stuff, but I wanted to make sure she got a welcome over here as well.

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Turn-Bass RPG

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It's all about that Bass XD.

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Will altering the moons orbit in any way help.

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or feed him after midnight

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man this chat is nothing but Bass X)

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Carefull, he is a Bass Xo.

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Aw, it's not even a shiny.

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A wild Bass X0 has appeared!

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I didn't even try this time.

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8ass X÷ has hijacked this conversation.

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Bass XO has been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty.

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It's good to be back, after that outage I think I'll try to post more.

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I think Hasbro Pulse is broken. Dang Star Wars nerds!

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When I googled 'space bridge' I was disappointed. Maybe in a hundred years.

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Bass XO has no known weaknesses.

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Base XO is definitely unstoppable.


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So, that 1994 "Fantastic Four" movie...


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 08:21 PM

 

Anyone else see it? I'm making my way through it now. 

 

Kinda crazy to think about Roger Corman even coming close to a Marvel property, but here it is. 



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Posted 02 September 2017 - 09:33 PM

Saw it a million years ago but it didn't leave much of an impression I guess.

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Posted 02 September 2017 - 10:42 PM

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.


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Posted 02 September 2017 - 11:04 PM

The documentary "DOOMED" about the making of this has been on hulu for a while now...its well worth a watch.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 01:51 AM

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.

I've seen different sources go back and forth as to what the disposition of the original prints are. 

 

Most agree that someone - likely Marvel - ordered the destruction of as many prints as they could obtain. 

 

Some sources hold that what we have now we have because a single print managed to survive, while other sources hold that what we have is derived from an unofficial copy or even a bootleg that slipped out. 

 

If it's the latter, then there may not be a surviving master Shout could get the footage from. 



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:53 AM

Seen it once.

 

It is what it is.


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:58 AM

I can't be too hard on it mainly because I've never been a huge FF fan and I think they work best as part of the bigger Marvel universe. Putting them as the only superhumans somehow doesn't work for me, whilst making them do gooders with success and good publicity works well to balance the vigilante style heroes elsewhere.



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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:39 AM

I mean, it's not a GREAT film by any stretch. But in the context of the "quality" of Marvel adaptions we were seeing to that point (and for several years after)...it is simply astounding at the authenticity it had to the base property. This was "completed" in 1994, yet we wouldn't get a good superhero adaption of a Marvel property until X-Men in 2000, and the argument could be made we didn't get a film with this sort of reverence for its source material until Spider-Man in 2002.

And for all its many flaws, it is still a fundamentally decent little Fantastic Four film, marred more by its own lack of budget and the quality of some of the actors than any real failures in its script or production design (within the context of its limited budget). And compared to the films we ended up getting from Fox (with several orders of magnitude more of a budget), I think this still stands as a good adaption of the property.

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Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:50 PM

 

Corman could probably charm his way into any studio or franchise in Hollywood, to be honest; the man is disarmingly likeable.  In this case, though, I think he got the job primarily for his well-deserved reputation of being able to stretch a budget ($1 million for this film, I think).

 

I'd like to see this get an official blu-ray release, personally.  Corman, the cast, and everyone involved in the production deserve it.  It's not as if Fox's efforts were any better, despite costing 100-130x more. If Shout Factory can release the 1990 Captain America, this one should be possible too.

I've seen different sources go back and forth as to what the disposition of the original prints are. 

 

Most agree that someone - likely Marvel - ordered the destruction of as many prints as they could obtain. 

 

Some sources hold that what we have now we have because a single print managed to survive, while other sources hold that what we have is derived from an unofficial copy or even a bootleg that slipped out. 

 

If it's the latter, then there may not be a surviving master Shout could get the footage 

 

 

This is finally explained in the DOOMED! documentary. One of the crew...I forget who...took a copy of it to get copied, and it leaked out from there,


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Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:09 PM

This is damning with faint praise, but it's still the best live-action FF we've had up to now.

 

When Alex Hyde-White popped up in a cameo in Agents Of SHIELD, I was hoping that was Marvel Studios' little nod to the Corman film, but it was probably just coincidence.



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 10:01 AM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.

Certainly better than the Chronicle guys one

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:04 AM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.

Certainly better than the Chronicle guys one

 

They could have been better, but they did a really damn good job with Human Torch and Thing, and Silver Surfer in the second one. Personally, aside from Galactus Clod, I think the second one is a vast improvement over the first one. 


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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:13 PM

The Thing suit is way better in the Corman version than in the first 2 FOX movies. But then, Corman had decades of prior experience in making creature costumes for zero dollars....



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Posted 04 September 2017 - 12:21 PM

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.


Wait was Raimi Spider-man even all that dark?

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 04:18 PM

Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

Probably not, but it had its moments.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 03:50 AM

 

I kinda like the mid 2000s ones. In a era of every comic film being dark, they were the only light hearted spot for a while.


Wait was Raimi Spider-man even all that dark?

 

 

Campy.

Very.

Very.

Campy.

 

I was cringing my way through it a few weeks ago when I watched it on a lark. Some movies age, other movies age well. Raimi's Spider-Man...it's kind of like putting on Tim Burton's Batman film and discovering the Adam West Batman film instead.



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Posted 05 September 2017 - 06:46 AM

Now I simply have to see it again.

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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:18 AM

Burton's Batman feels a lot campier in this day and age of high-quality superhero films, too.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:40 AM

I love this movie. Best FF movie yet in my opinion. 

 

The documentary "Doomed" is also a great watch.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 11:09 AM

Burton's Batman feels a lot campier in this day and age of high-quality superhero films, too.

Burton's Batman was dark but not serious.


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