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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 July 2019 - 10:40 AM)

I don't suppose the allspark has any criminal lawyers from Georgia. ;P

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 July 2019 - 01:17 PM)

It seems like, with these kind of things, anything not TF-specific is either in an existing thread or just not discussed since they're not part of something deemed important enough to get its own thread already.

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Yeah, but it's for Transformers specifically

@  Gryllid : (19 July 2019 - 12:39 PM)

There is. It's called "SDCC 2019 thread"

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:24 PM)

no general SDCC thread?

@  Benbot : (19 July 2019 - 12:08 PM)

I never even bothered to see it.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 July 2019 - 10:30 AM)

O never hated it, the whole thing was an Indiana Jones movie. I didn't care for the CGI, but that's just nature of the beast.

@  Paladin : (19 July 2019 - 07:58 AM)

sidebar- has enough time passed that we can stop irrationally hating "Crystal Skull" yet?

@  Telly : (18 July 2019 - 09:18 PM)

after 38 years and i dont know how many viewings, today is the first time i noticed indiana jones doesnt use a revolver in the bar fight in raiders...

@  Kalidor : (18 July 2019 - 05:33 PM)

@Sabrblade Depends on when you're here. I used to have the backups happen once daily, now I have them happen once per hour so you might often see a hesitation at the top of every hour for 30-45 seconds.

@  Locoman : (18 July 2019 - 05:11 PM)

isn't that just Modern Family

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:45 PM)

that's right. my gym teacher is a clown. new series coming to disney channel next fall

@  Foffy : (18 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)

all these clowns are making me run really fast.

@  Sabrblade : (18 July 2019 - 12:10 PM)

All this awesome SDCC news is really making these boards run slowly.

@  Bass X0 : (18 July 2019 - 07:54 AM)

Racism must be stopped. No matter the cost.

@  MEDdMI : (18 July 2019 - 07:49 AM)

Tine to stop buttering it up.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 July 2019 - 09:43 PM)

Well shucks.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 July 2019 - 08:14 PM)

The joke is a husk of its former self.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 01:15 PM)

Pop.

@  Shrug : (17 July 2019 - 10:15 AM)

Something something... corn bread?

@  MEDdMI : (17 July 2019 - 07:21 AM)

Ok, ok. Enough of the puns and let's all thank Kal for the amaizeing job he did.

@  Paladin : (17 July 2019 - 06:24 AM)

by now I think this jokes' been creamed.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

The kernel.

@  Nevermore : (17 July 2019 - 03:31 AM)

Who gives the orders in cybernetic warfare?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:59 PM)

Zea mays

@  Xellos : (16 July 2019 - 09:53 PM)

Isn't that a kernel of truth.

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 08:43 PM)

huh. suddenly the Squawk is popping.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 07:47 PM)

Not placing much stalk in this conversation.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 06:22 PM)

That's so corny.

@  Shrug : (16 July 2019 - 06:07 PM)

It's absurd how happy I am that a post of mine made the front page of Reddit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

Aww, shucks.

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:45 PM)

Not till I taste the corn

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 05:43 PM)

You guys aren't being very nice. You're supposed to tell me I did "good, really good!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 July 2019 - 05:40 PM)

Just don't go beyond the rows.

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

Left over from the failed Beast Machines sequel, Beast Farmers

@  Patch : (16 July 2019 - 05:39 PM)

It's techno-organic corn

@  TriBlurr : (16 July 2019 - 05:26 PM)

We have a cornfield? Can I get a few ears?

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:56 PM)

And lastly, if it becomes too much hassle to deal with - it might just get sent into the cornfield and replaced with a Discord box anyway. So cool it.

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Second thing is we do actually have the ability to ban users specifically from using Shoutbox if it's being abused like that

@  Kalidor : (16 July 2019 - 12:55 PM)

Hey all - just a reminder and heads up. The Shoutbox has been kept here as a courtesy because it's what you folks like in lieu of Discord - but a few things to remember is that P&R should stay in P&R and isn't really something that needs to be dragged out here in the most public of spaces.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Done.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 10:25 AM)

You can make a new one. I doubt anybody would stop you.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2019 - 10:16 AM)

There was a thread but it appears to have disappeared. Might have been lost in one of the older forum sweeps.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 July 2019 - 09:58 AM)

Yeah this is pretty much circumventing the fact that we have different rules for political talk.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2019 - 09:55 AM)

Okay, so, basically, can we not do politics in here anymore? I mean, considering how often @Nevermore, you talk about your work conditions, don't you think it's time for a dedicated thread in P&R?

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:39 AM)

Scratch that; that's insulting to honest salads. Whatever that was was the text equivalent of hamburger.

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:38 AM)

Would you like some dressing to go with your word salad?

@  Paladin : (16 July 2019 - 09:34 AM)

yes; it now goes "shit piss hug *BLEEP* ^$@^ motherhuger **** turd fart encyclopedia & Socialism."

@  unluckiness : (16 July 2019 - 09:24 AM)

This is an American site, but isn't that unnecessarily severe language? IIRC it's one of the top four offensive pejoratives to English people

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 July 2019 - 08:52 AM)

It's amusing how so many (U.S.) wankers in this world love to whine "capitalism good socialism bad!" in the abstract while simultaneously pretending that megacorporations dominating de facto monopolies is anathema to the core capitalistic principle of competition benefits everyone.


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#261 Fear or Courage

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Posted 11 December 2017 - 09:05 AM

Yeah, I ain't a hater. These fill a purpose, and they fill it well. They're just not up my alley. Kids and some collectors will dig'em, though, and that's cool.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:26 AM

Authentics listed at Amazon, hi-res stock photos:
Optimus Prime
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Bumblebee
Bumblebee_packaging_US.jpg Bumblebee_robot.jpg Bumblebee_alternate.jpg

Megatron
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Starscream
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Posted 17 December 2017 - 01:42 PM

The treads on Megatron-the-toy's torso make him a more interesting design than the actual packaging art.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:10 PM

The fake windshield chests on these Autobots lead to wasted paint apps.

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 02:15 PM

Now that you bring it up, they actually have a surprising number of paint ops for what they're supposed to be, don't they?

 

Megatron has, like, ten assuming both eyes are painted, plus a Decepticon tampo - I guess it's possible the eyes and red stomach greeblies are one op each, since they're all one color on one side of one piece of plastic. (I've never quiiiiiiite been able to determine exactly how much flexibility you have with that.) Bumblebee's got a grille and headlights. That's not bad.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 09:35 PM

Megatron looks the best too me, he's got a pretty decent looking robot mode, and an alt mod that's not completely horrendous. Starscream is next down, as its still a really good robot mode but that Jet mode somehow manages to be worse then POTP, where at least that had the excuse of trying to do so many things, this doesn't have an excuse for being literal robot laying down. Its the worst of the alt modes. Optimus is third since the robot mode is nice, but the truck just feels under detailed.

 

Bumblebee... is easily the worst of the line as it feels like he's from the Cybertron's Legends line, being on par with that Hot Shot. It really stands out when everyone else has is kinda feel closer to modern legends toys and bumblebee only has what seems to only have what articulation is required for transformation. It wouldn't be out of place if everyone had limited articulation, but only Optimus is lacking elbows while still having an otherwise full range of movement like the Decepticons. He just feels like he's from some other toyline line shoved in here. 


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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:27 PM

I like Bumblebee more than Optimus because, while Bee doesn't have any leg articulation, both of his modes look pretty good. Both of Optimus' modes look pretty shitty.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 10:49 PM

Starscream and Megatron look pretty good (since they both have elbow and knee joints) but Starscream's jet mode looks like a McDonalds toy, it kinda puts me off it, but on the other hand their size next to a Legend means Megatron (and the others) will be larger then them which I like.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 11:13 PM

On the one hand, that Starscream's jet mode is like someone looked at POTP Starscream and said "Oh, so you quarter-assed that jet mode? Well, let me show you what one-eighth-assing a jet mode looks like!"

 

On the other hand it doesn't seem to have a fake cockpit chest.



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Posted 17 December 2017 - 11:28 PM

Fans: Oh go, POTP Starscream is just awful, no way they could made a worse jet then that!

 

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Posted 17 December 2017 - 11:41 PM

Due credit, he does have a better robot mode.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 02:19 AM

I'd say

Prime
Robot Mode- C for looking decent but being lacking articulation.
Truck Mode - D for looking pretty terrible in the leg department.
Overall - C-

Bumblebee
Robot Mode - C for looking decent but looking like it's even less poseable than Prime.
Car Mode - B- The missing side windows are weird but not terrible and the rest is fine.
OverAll - C+

Megatron
Robot Mode - B+
Tank Mode - B+ Looks good in both modes and poseable this one is the clear winner of these.
Overall - B+

Starscream
Robot Mode - B+ Looks good and surprising poseable
Jet Mode - D possibly D- That's like a 3 year olds drawing of a jet. It's bad. I find it really hard to believe they couldn't have got a better sculpted/proportioned jet out of the same bot mode with the same number of parts. It feels like an execution issue rather than a technical one and a bad one at that.
Overall - C-

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 02:42 AM

Jet Mode - D possibly D- That's like a 3 year olds drawing of a jet. It's bad. I find it really hard to believe they couldn't have got a better sculpted/proportioned jet out of the same bot mode with the same number of parts. It feels like an execution issue rather than a technical one and a bad one at that.

Can't help thinking they could have made a start by using the same hollow, collapsing legs as Megatron and Optimus and extending the fuselage up behind his neck a bit. Maybe he'd end up with big joints for earwarmers, but it could have shortened the back and lengthened the front of the plane enough not to look like it was meant as a joke. And making those armatures for the arms longer seems relatively easy.

 

Some strange choices, but then ... for a line like this, I just don't expect a top engineering game. They have an absurdly thin budget to work with and very high durability and simplicity requirements, and you know, this whole "convincingly change from a robot to a vehicle" thing is like a third or fourth tier priority at best. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 05:44 AM

The Starscream jet mode gives me enough Pretender Starscream vibes, I'm almost tempted by it's dorkiness.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 06:12 AM

It's very weird that Prime and Starscream have their vehicle modes sculpted based on MP-10 and the Combiner Wars Leader respectively, rather than their evergreen designs' vehicle modes...

Can anyone peg Megatron and Bee's vehicles as specific toys?

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:00 AM

Bumblebee is the TR down to the strange panel line choices but with not-G1 proportions. Megatron I don't see anything similar.
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:05 AM

It's very weird that Prime and Starscream have their vehicle modes sculpted based on MP-10 and the Combiner Wars Leader respectively, rather than their evergreen designs' vehicle modes...

Can anyone peg Megatron and Bee's vehicles as specific toys?

Megatron's looks a lot like the Legends scale one that was retooled into Warpath.

 

Bumblebee looks like the Legion (?) / Legend (?) sized one that came out in Universe and was redecoed into Gold Bumblebee and Henkei Cliffjumper.


At least that's what they remind me a lot of.


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:12 AM

Those are similar figures with similar transformations and alt modes, but the detailing doesn't match up. Where Optimus and Bumblebee's alt modes (and only alt modes) match MP-10 and TR Bee only in the detailing, but it's very specific details that don't show up on any other toy rather fastidiously remapped into these. And Megatron unfortunately doesn't match the Legends in the shape of the cannon, tread area armor, hatches, etc. (naturally ignoring necessities like the feet.)
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 18 December 2017 - 08:47 AM

Ah yeah, that's definitely TR Bee, I somehow didn't think to check that one.

I checked the immediately obvious Megatrons - T30 Legends and CW Leader - but neither of those is a match.

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Posted 18 December 2017 - 09:46 AM

Maybe ROTF Bludgeon, who was used to make the GDO and Cloud Megatrons?


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