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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#241 Chip

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:28 PM

The sides needed paint or a deeper sculpt. With Bee, they realized that if you can't paint the windows you should just sculpt them rolled down.

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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:39 PM

TFW2005 user Ikkad has posted some relative size comparison images.


"Plastic is very cheap"
"Feels like a KO"
"Lack of elbows restricts poseability"
"Uses fake chest windows"
"Hasbro has cornered the market on KO TFs"

I should've just looked at the mirrored pictures instead of clicking through to the review.


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:53 PM

Super simple G1-ish Optimus Prime toy has to cheat the window chest bit? :???



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Posted 08 December 2017 - 07:56 PM

The windows are on the top of his backpack and wider than his chest. It's just simply not using the G1 transformation. For what they were trying to accomplish here, it seems like a totally reasonable solution.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 08 December 2017 - 08:01 PM

 

TFW2005 user Ikkad has posted some relative size comparison images.


"Plastic is very cheap"
"Feels like a KO"
"Lack of elbows restricts poseability"
"Uses fake chest windows"
"Hasbro has cornered the market on KO TFs"

 

These quotes could be from virtually any toy reveal thread on TFW.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:38 AM

In-hand video review by chefatron:

 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:47 AM

Read as "crab Magnus", got excited, then disappointed.


I am so down for Crabnus =o

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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:50 AM

TFW2005 user Ikkad has posted some relative size comparison images.


"Plastic is very cheap"
"Feels like a KO"
"Lack of elbows restricts poseability"
"Uses fake chest windows"
"Hasbro has cornered the market on KO TFs"
 
These quotes could be from virtually any toy reveal thread on TFW.

Well then that guy fits right in. It's like a goddamned Mad Lib.

No wonder I almost exclusively stay on the Allspark.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:27 AM

TBH, these guys don't look good at all. The smaller legends and the larger Cyber Battalion managed to be cheap figures that still had good silhouettes and sculpts, but these guys really seem to lack that.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 10:37 AM

I'm a sucker for small, cheap TFs but it's hard to get excited about these when we've seen the same characters done better at relatively low pricepoints in fairly recent memory (I mean, this is basically that first wave of new Legends from a couple years ago, just less good).

 

I'm totally in for Grimlock, though, and it might be cool if the line continues and produces some less ubiquitous characters. Obviously I'm not the target audience, so anything good we get out of this is a bonus.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 11:39 AM

Ouch. After I shared the review video for the Allspark on Facebook, a guy from Hong Kong says "not good", and then a guy from Colombia says "ugly".


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 11:49 AM

Not really surprising, is it? These are just about the least fan-oriented Transformers toys Hasbro produces. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:20 PM

I don't know about that. They're G1 - that covers a multitude of sins to many people. I bet, at gunpoint, lots of people would take them over a movie One-Step - or maybe a movie Deluxe.



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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:25 PM

Okay, that's fair - I mean, would take one over a Movie one-step, and it'd depend on the Deluxe in question. I even considered getting CB Jetfire as a custom base. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 09 December 2017 - 12:25 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 12:29 PM

Movie fan super-biased comment follows:

The same guy arguing that TLK Legion Hot Rod is just a recolor of RID Legion Sideswipe will buy two of each so he can keep one MOSC.

(Snarky remark written after setting my Movie One-step back down on the coffee table.)


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 01:41 PM

I get what they're going for with these, I really do, but man they don't look good.

 

I mean Starscream probably looks the best but that jet mode just kills it.


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Posted 09 December 2017 - 02:53 PM

These are so clearly not designed for this market, I don't really get the surprise at their quality. I wouldn't buy them, but I know I'm not even remotely expected to.

 

Then again, kids uh... find a way. I used Gobot Road Ranger as my Optimus Prime. You make do with what ya got.


 
 
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Posted 09 December 2017 - 04:04 PM

Road Ranger is an extremely cool toy on it's own merits. This isn't, but it does look more like an established character. I'd hope Road Ranger would win out.

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Posted 10 December 2017 - 02:28 AM

I'm going to end up buying a bunch of those Starscreams simply to pilfer their null-rays.
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Posted 10 December 2017 - 05:56 AM

Didn't you get like any Titans Return cars? :p



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