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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 03:07 AM

 

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Posted 16 September 2017 - 04:29 AM

You know, there was a time when the idea of a Robotech movie would have gotten me hyped. The whole sage, realised in successive films begining with the battles of the SDF-1 vs Zentradi. Transforming F-14 style fighter jets.

Now though? I just can't see that whatever this film might turn out storywise, it will so not that. And after all the hassles, stupid legal cases, rererereleases of the series.

I actually hope the movie doesn't get going, because i want a Macross movie.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:05 AM

It occurred to me recently that Harmony Gold might have a chance of salvaging Robotech by licensing the orphaned stepchild of the Macross franchise: Macross II.

 

The VF-2 would make a good transitional veritech design to succeed the Valkyrie and precede the Alpha/Beta.

 

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 09:42 AM

No thanks.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:16 AM

Because Harmony Gold sucks?



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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:28 AM

Yes, that is my reason for not brainstorming ideas for a horrid cockroach to survive the boot of destiny.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:34 AM

It occurred to me recently that Harmony Gold might have a chance of salvaging Robotech by licensing the orphaned stepchild of the Macross franchise: Macross II.


How would they even obtain such a license?

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:48 AM

Buy it from Big West?  It's not as if they're using it.

 

https://en.wikipedia...I:_Lovers_Again

 

In Japan, Macross II is as dead as Southern Cross and Mospeada.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:51 AM

I mean, if HG can't even renew the rights they already had, it doesn't seem likely that they could get any other Macross stuff.

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#90 Pale Rider

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 10:54 AM

That's because the original Macross is still a thriving IP.  Has Harmony Gold had any problems maintaining their license to the other IPs that comprise Robotech?



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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:03 AM

I hope no one ever even considers selling anything Macross related back to Harmony Gold.  That would be a monumental mistake.


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 11:05 AM

Speaking of which, Harmony Gold has overhauled Robotech.com yet again.

 

https://robotech.com



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Posted 23 January 2018 - 06:10 PM

I doubt Big West would ever engage in business with Harmony Gold again at this point.

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 07:00 PM

i would hope NOBODY would do business with harmony gold ever again...


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 08:01 PM

Where else is Toynami supposed to get toy designs to show off at Toyfair and then never mention again?


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Posted 23 January 2018 - 08:37 PM

Buy it from Big West?  It's not as if they're using it.

 

https://en.wikipedia...I:_Lovers_Again

 

In Japan, Macross II is as dead as Southern Cross and Mospeada.

 

*Cries silently in the corner*

 

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 09:31 AM

Except in plastic. Holy crap


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:13 AM

 

Buy it from Big West?  It's not as if they're using it.

 

https://en.wikipedia...I:_Lovers_Again

 

In Japan, Macross II is as dead as Southern Cross and Mospeada.

 

*Cries silently in the corner*

 

~Marduk (Okay, so the floating SDF-01 head at the end is a little weird, but, man, VF-II's with SAP. Those things are awesome)

 

Why do you think I want Robotech to have it?  It had a lot of good in it and I even liked the premise of the Marduk (Mardook?).  However, I never really understood what they were supposed to be.  Were they the original creators of the Zentradi or yet another descendant of the Protoculture that used music to enslave a Zentradi army (versus integrating them into their society as we did)? Macross II should have been longer.

 

Let me approach this differently: if Harmony Gold sold Robotech to a company like Hasbro, would there be any objection to integrating Macross II into it?


Edited by Pale Rider, 24 January 2018 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 10:48 AM

I think if they continue Robotech, they should expand on the Robotech original storylines like the Sentinels stuff or show us what happened to the SDF-3. Shadow Chronicles had the idea of making the Haydonites the new enemy of humanity. Maybe continue along those lines or the idea of everything being the designs of their god like in the novels. 

 

But really the best show to adapt for Robotech is probably Macross Frontier. They could just set up the Vajra as the Invid.


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Posted 24 January 2018 - 11:10 AM

The only thing I REALLY want from Robotech from anyone honestly is more Invid toys.

I *LOVED* the Invid Shock Trooper toy in the 80s and still have mine. And the little Scout Trooper too. It kills me that those are the only toys to ever exist. Something about the Invid looks just really speaks to me and I've always wanted more toys of the designs that didn't get them then and more modern Shock Trooper toys.


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