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@  CORVUS : (21 February 2020 - 07:28 PM)

Stupid, delicious Ben & Jerry's.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 06:42 PM)

Ahh. I remember watching Bubblegum Crisis 2020 or whatever.

@  Dekafox : (21 February 2020 - 06:25 PM)

Next you'll say they have Dominion Tank Police and L.I.L.Y.Cat

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 February 2020 - 06:06 PM)

Bubblegum Crisis, going by several shouts down.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2020 - 05:38 PM)

BGC?

@  Bass X0 : (21 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Enjoy the fudgy icing of this Hostess Cup Cake!

@  Telly : (21 February 2020 - 02:31 PM)

harlock is on tubi as well. not dubbed though :(

@  Rhinox42 : (21 February 2020 - 01:19 PM)

Blugh, the english dub of BGC is atrocious.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I might need to update my software, or they face regional limitations, cause I found no evidence of either.

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 10:31 PM)

DUDE! Starcom and COPS are on Tubi too!

@  Steevy Maximus : (20 February 2020 - 09:29 PM)

Spiffy! The english dub of Bubblegum Crisis on Tubi. It's gotten so hard to find these oldies on modern streaming services.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:44 PM)

And now I know and now I know and now I know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me, know that you can hear me.

@  Nevermore : (20 February 2020 - 08:31 PM)

Oh, oh, people can you hear me? People can you hear me? People can you hear me?

@  Echowarrior : (20 February 2020 - 06:39 PM)

Let me go-o-o-o!

@  Telly : (20 February 2020 - 05:41 PM)

Galileo Galileo!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Very very fright-ning me!

@  Sabrblade : (20 February 2020 - 04:02 PM)

*thunder and lightning*

@  ▲ndrusi : (20 February 2020 - 03:46 PM)

Ah, ah, ah!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (20 February 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Already did. It didn't take long.

@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.


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#21 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 02:47 AM

I don't understand all the hate for Harmony Gold regarding Jetfire. They paid for the exclusive rights to something, and fought to maintain it.

Hasbro would do the same thing if Mattel released action figures that looked like Optimus Prime.

It's just a part of the system/game.


Well, that particular Jetfire was just a G.I. Joe aircraft in Jetfire's color scheme, which didn't come from Macross.

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:15 AM

Didn't they also demand that every copy of the toy be mailed to them or something?



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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:29 AM

Didn't HG once try to stop one of the people who worked on Macross from selling copies of his own art at a convention or am I misremembering it with some other legal hugery they did?


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:48 AM

The anime community acknowledged that HG was one of the grandfathers of anime in America, but HG/Streamline were elevated to the status of vampires/boogeymen of the creative community, and eventually became a (not very funny) joke.  There was even a time when, if you criticised a title, someone would, reflexively, yell, "Quiet, HG will sue you over that!"


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:59 AM

I don't understand all the hate for Harmony Gold regarding Jetfire. They paid for the exclusive rights to something, and fought to maintain it.

Hasbro would do the same thing if Mattel released action figures that looked like Optimus Prime.

It's just a part of the system/game.

The results of everything that's actually went to court (or been dismissed, like the Jetfire case) show that the rights they have aren't as exclusive or extensive as they think they are.

 

I'd say the Jetfire case was more like if Mattel released a Hot Wheels car that was a (not yellow) Lamborghini with extra parts on top, and if Hasbro sued over that.



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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:01 PM

 

I don't understand all the hate for Harmony Gold regarding Jetfire. They paid for the exclusive rights to something, and fought to maintain it.

Hasbro would do the same thing if Mattel released action figures that looked like Optimus Prime.

It's just a part of the system/game.


Well, that particular Jetfire was just a G.I. Joe aircraft in Jetfire's color scheme, which didn't come from Macross.

 

 

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:03 PM

あれはバルキリーじゃない。ジェットファイヤーだ!


"That's no Valkyrie. It's Jetfire!"

...?

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:18 PM

 

あれはバルキリーじゃない。ジェットファイヤーだ!


"That's no Valkyrie. It's Jetfire!"

...?

 

 

I was trying to retort to D Buster Prime that calling the 2013 Jetfire toy a Valkyrie was nonsense.


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Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:58 PM

Didn't they also demand that every copy of the toy be mailed to them or something?

 

they did

 

http://www.animenews...?ann-edition=uk

 

 

 

for Hasbro to deliver all toys or other products in their possession that violate the copyright; for Hasbro to be required to recall the toys from "any person or entity known to them who purchased or received" copies of the infringing products

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 05:48 PM

I don't understand all the hate for Harmony Gold regarding Jetfire. They paid for the exclusive rights to something, and fought to maintain it.

Hasbro would do the same thing if Mattel released action figures that looked like Optimus Prime.

It's just a part of the system/game.

The results of everything that's actually went to court (or been dismissed, like the Jetfire case) show that the rights they have aren't as exclusive or extensive as they think they are.
 
I'd say the Jetfire case was more like if Mattel released a Hot Wheels car that was a (not yellow) Lamborghini with extra parts on top, and if Hasbro sued over that.

Except Mattel actually does stuff with Hot Wheels.

It's more like Mattel releasing a Clayface figure and Hasbro suing them because it's "too close" to an Inhumanoid.

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:24 PM

I understand trying to stand by their legal perspective DBuster, but understand that HG has pretty much torched any goodwill they ever accrued. I grew up loving Robotech, but I'm ready to see it die to see Marcoss be able to release properly world wide.

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Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:41 PM

Robotech may die...

 

But the WOMEN OF ROBOTECH shall live on!

 



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 09:58 AM

HG has tried many times to restart RT, each of them with lack-luster results.    They really could make MORE money off the property if they sold it to a company that actually gave a damn about it, instead of the small amount of revenue it brings them...  Most of which seems to get squandered on lawsuits. 


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:13 AM

HG has tried many times to restart RT, each of them with lack-luster results.    They really could make MORE money off the property if they sold it to a company that actually gave a damn about it, instead of the small amount of revenue it brings them...  Most of which seems to get squandered on lawsuits. 

They have a marketing problem.  They do not understand the market and seem to be unwilling to pay someone to define it.  Once they have the definition, they then have to hire people with the creativity to meet the desires of the market with existing properties.  It costs less and has fewer risks to hire lawyers to protect the properties, than it does to hire marketers and creative types.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:23 AM

Robotech may die...

 

But the WOMEN OF ROBOTECH shall live on!

 

I watching those commercials back to back, it gives the message to young girls that the women in Rick's life were 100% interchangeable. 

 

Without knowing the story, here is what it looks like.

A guy dates two women - neither know each other - the guy takes his dates to the same restaurant on the same night (he doesn't even bother to change clothes) - and no one knows any better - AND the women are free to pursue their dreams...This has '87 SITCOM written all over it.

 

The 80's were a terribly progressive time.


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:59 AM

Four years until I can get a professionally-dubbed, official copy of DYRL! Wooo!

 

THANK GOD.

 

 

I will always love my Robotech Novels, but Harmony Gold has even screwed those up now first by making them non-canon and then apparently heavily editing the online versions. (Read about that on Facebook.)



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:14 PM

Four years until I can get a professionally-dubbed, official copy of DYRL! Wooo!

 

I'd settle for an official release with subtitles, but that would be even better!


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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:16 PM

I will always love my Robotech Novels, but Harmony Gold has even screwed those up now first by making them non-canon and then apparently heavily editing the online versions. (Read about that on Facebook.)

Can you elaborate? I've been thinking of going digital at some point, and the RT novels would probably be one of my first purchases.

I know they edited the timeline / dates way back when Shadow Chronicles came back (I don't remember if it was a late/early return for the REF), but I didn't think they did any other major edits. Unless they went back and renamed the AJACs again.

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 12:56 PM

Four years until I can get a professionally-dubbed, official copy of DYRL! Wooo!

 

THANK GOD.

 

 

I will always love my Robotech Novels, but Harmony Gold has even screwed those up now first by making them non-canon and then apparently heavily editing the online versions. (Read about that on Facebook.)

 

 

 

Four years until I can get a professionally-dubbed, official copy of DYRL! Wooo!

 

I'd settle for an official release with subtitles, but that would be even better!

 

or a blueray with both...

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:12 PM

Robotech may die...
 
But the WOMEN OF ROBOTECH shall live on!
 

I watching those commercials back to back, it gives the message to young girls that the women in Rick's life were 100% interchangeable. 
 
Without knowing the story, here is what it looks like.
A guy dates two women - neither know each other - the guy takes his dates to the same restaurant on the same night (he doesn't even bother to change clothes) - and no one knows any better - AND the women are free to pursue their dreams...This has '87 SITCOM written all over it.
 
The 80's were a terribly progressive time.
I almost wish there were more dolls just for the awful disparity between "ongoing war drama" and "isn't she neat?"

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