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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....


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#1 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:01 AM

Anyone can tell me about these? There seems to be both a "regular" release and an Amazon version of some sort.

I don't know if this means they rescanned the original film elements or if it's just the DVDs' source blown up to not-actually-HD. And I have no idea how they decided that people would pay to see the G1 cartoon like this but I'm still curious.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 07:37 AM

I believe it says on Autobase Aichi that the transfer is the same as on the DVDs.
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Posted 04 August 2017 - 09:31 AM

And I have no idea how they decided that people would pay to see the G1 cartoon like this but I'm still curious.

 

Considering that people have been asking for a Blu-Ray release of the G1 cartoon ever since Shout! Factory got the Transformers DVD license for North America back around 2009ish, I'd say there's plenty of demand for it.


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

You'd have much clearer pictures of the abysmal, unfinished Rhino transfers because the show was mastered on video tape.

Unless they were going to pay to have it digitally fixed which would likely run into hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars.

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

How did they do the frame-by-frame stuff of animation on videotape?

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 01:31 PM

my understanding is after they fixed everything with the raw footage they transferred the "final" version to video tape for broadcast.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 01:15 AM

Looks like an SD on Blu-ray release. Disappointing, but not surprising.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 01:31 AM

You'd have much clearer pictures of the abysmal, unfinished Rhino transfers because the show was mastered on video tape.

Unless they were going to pay to have it digitally fixed which would likely run into hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars.


Well, there's been plenty of fairly obscure 80's and 90's anime that was originallly edited on video but has still been released properly on Blu-ray (sometimes with some upscaled shots though). It would certainly be a challenge to do all of G1 properly but I think it could be done as long as all the film masters are still in good shape.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 07:33 AM

Anyone can tell me about these? There seems to be both a "regular" release and an Amazon version of some sort.

I don't know if this means they rescanned the original film elements or if it's just the DVDs' source blown up to not-actually-HD. And I have no idea how they decided that people would pay to see the G1 cartoon like this but I'm still curious.

It seems that the Amazon.co.jp version just comes out sooner, it doesn't appear to have any special bonuses like some Blu-rays they sell.

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:25 PM

 

You'd have much clearer pictures of the abysmal, unfinished Rhino transfers because the show was mastered on video tape.

Unless they were going to pay to have it digitally fixed which would likely run into hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars.


Well, there's been plenty of fairly obscure 80's and 90's anime that was originallly edited on video but has still been released properly on Blu-ray (sometimes with some upscaled shots though). It would certainly be a challenge to do all of G1 properly but I think it could be done as long as all the film masters are still in good shape.

 

G1 wasn't edited on video. When you look at broadcast version, you can see film splices whenever a scene was corrected.
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Posted 07 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

There's convenience to using Blu-ray for SD, since it takes up much less physical space than DVD. (Ex: this set is three discs instead of fifteen.) If you can live with Japan's dumb markups for home video (and, well, the language), this isn't too bad if you didn't already have the previous sets.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:43 AM

 

You'd have much clearer pictures of the abysmal, unfinished Rhino transfers because the show was mastered on video tape.

Unless they were going to pay to have it digitally fixed which would likely run into hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of dollars.

Well, there's been plenty of fairly obscure 80's and 90's anime that was originallly edited on video but has still been released properly on Blu-ray (sometimes with some upscaled shots though). It would certainly be a challenge to do all of G1 properly but I think it could be done as long as all the film masters are still in good shape.
 
G1 wasn't edited on video. When you look at broadcast version, you can see film splices whenever a scene was corrected.
Ah, never noticed that before. That makes Rhino's remastering efforts even more disappointing, then. I wonder if the film for the fixed episodes is still sitting in a vault somewhere... I'd certainly volunteer my time to check through film canisters here in Japan if anyone would let me, but I only know a couple of people who have done work for Takara, Pioneer, and E-Hobby, not Toei, so I doubt I could convince anyone to let me.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:48 AM

There's convenience to using Blu-ray for SD, since it takes up much less physical space than DVD. (Ex: this set is three discs instead of fifteen.) If you can live with Japan's dumb markups for home video


YMMV but I'd personally rather have an expensive release than none at all. Consider all the niche anime that gets a home video release while the US can't even get The Simpsons DVD sets anymore.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:54 AM

Actually, they just announced the 18th season of the Simpsons for DVD (but not Blu-Ray!) release.

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:05 AM

Ah, well better late than never I guess. But there's still tons of western animation that never sees a home video release, while nearly all anime does get one, which probably wouldn't happen if they had to price them for Wal-mart customers.

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:18 PM

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:39 PM

the entire series on 3 discs. im still amazed sometimes how much they can get on a bluray


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