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@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN


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#41 Noideaforaname

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:25 PM

Is "From the looks, the series is a redux of Transformers G1" based solely on the images used in that one slide? Because that would seem to be reading an awful lot into those unless somewhere there actually said "redux of G1" or something similar. 

 

Well, TFW did up and declare "Beast Hunters" to be a Beast Wars sequel when we first heard about it, so....



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:26 PM

"The Binder of Revelation is dead" is an overreaction. Movies, comics, toys and no doubt this cartoon will all be using concepts generated by that book. Just because Alvarez's stupid surrealistic plan of an ongoing continuity across all media didn't work out it doesn't mean the binder is in a dusty room. In fact it was the center piece of the writer's room!

 

My only worry about this is honestly the art style, would be a shame to have it be too g1-ish and end up with two toylines that look nearly the same instead of the cool variety we had the last 7 years.



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:29 PM

I sincerely hope this Cyberverse cartoon is more 'The Brave and the Bold' and less 'Transformers: Regurgitation'.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

I hope "Cyberverse" is not a name reuse but an indication of the toyline plans.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

Man, and I was all set to make the "CYBERVERSE LIVES" signs.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

I believe that MASK image is something we've seen before, and that it recycles at least one of the DOTM Wreckers. Am I misremembering?



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:38 PM

I was thinking the same thing. The fact that two of the vehicles look nothing alike shows just how rough a mock it is. "Do we have something that looks like it has helmets and cool vehicles? Great, that's all we need."



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

I liked RiD in that it was unafraid to do stuff that no other Transformers show had really done (eg. not having an Optimus or a Convoy lead the team, no Megatron/Galvatron, useful and likeable human characters, amazing diversity of new characters for future franchises to adapt that weren't tied to G1 in any way.) Plot and pacing wise, though.... it could have been better.

Maybe, in retrospect, RiD was more of a placeholder show while Hasbro re-jiggered its approach than anything really designed to shake up the franchise, but I'm worried that the next show, in keeping with how Hasbro seems to be moving these days, will just be a G1-rehash "ONE SHALL STAND ONE SHALL FALL" type show...

#49 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

"The Binder of Revelation is dead" is an overreaction. Movies, comics, toys and no doubt this cartoon will all be using concepts generated by that book. Just because Alvarez's stupid surrealistic plan of an ongoing continuity across all media didn't work out it doesn't mean the binder is in a dusty room. In fact it was the center piece of the writer's room!

The writer's room said very early on they wanted to explore the Transformers mythos. It seems likely that Hasbro gave them the binder as part of that process.

And Alvarez's plan pretty much was Aligned. The idea that you'd have video games, novels, toys, and tv shows all following the same continuity. Early on I remember a lot of Aligned talk from Hasbro's end was how everything you knew before was being channeled into just this new mega continuity. They even said something about Aligned being it's own thing, entirely separate from the previously established multi-verse.

My point is that this obviously didn't pan out. Internal consistancy among Aligned's properties was never there. And with Alvarez and Archer moving on? It's clear that the plans for Aligned to be this thing that swallowed up everything else are done away with.
Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections. No more Aligned novels. A video game that pulled from G1 and IDW rather than any of the Aligned games.

And now the Aligned show's replacement doesn't appear to be in that continuity either. At best? Ongoing Aligned fiction will just be ReacueBots. And that's hilarious, considering Alvarez didn't even want it in the Aligned continuity in the first place.
 

My only worry about this is honestly the art style, would be a shame to have it be too g1-ish and end up with two toylines that look nearly the same instead of the cool variety we had the last 7 years.

I think the latter end of RiD 2015's line gives us a good idea of what to expect from Cyberverse.
Stuff like RiD Starscream, Soundwave, and Bludgeon that are obviously G1 referential without being "Classics/Generations" style updates.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

Cyberverse better be told through the magic of the Cybernet Space Cube or I'm out.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

I'm hoping for TF Brave and the Bold, but that's just setting myself up for disappointment.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:49 PM

Cyberverse better be told through the magic of the Cybernet Space Cube or I'm out.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

 

Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..

 

 

I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:57 PM

I'm hoping for TF Brave and the Bold, but that's just setting myself up for disappointment.

 

Well, now I'm going to be disappointed when it winds up not being that.

 

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#56 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:05 PM

 Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..
 

 
I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.
Nope. Not at all. First, I never said Aligned was "obliterated." Just over. Or close to being over.
Secondly? Aligned itself featured the Omega Lock. Which was taken from the UT. The Omega Lock was introduced in the Prime show in 2012. I don't think I'm out on a limb to say that the UT as a continuity was over and done with by 2012.

Fact is that Aligned, like every other continuity, contributed something to the brand. In this case? The G1-based PotP line is running with the idea of the Thirteen. That doesn't mean Aligned as an active continuity isn't winding down. It's just that another ongoing continuity took some of its concepts.
Yes, Prime Wars uses some Aligned concepts. It's not connected to the Aligned continuity family. No more so than Aligned was connected to the UT via the Omega Lock.

Besides. The Thirteen weren't even an original Aligned concept anyway. Given the role Vector Prime played in the very earliest Thirteen fiction? It's not unfair to say it has UT roots as much as it is to say it has Aligned roots.

Edited by LordGigaIce, 03 August 2017 - 04:06 PM.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:06 PM

 

 

Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..

 

 

I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.

 

Power of the Primes leverages stuff that originated from the Binder for its entire gimmick and back story, so while Aligned is basically dead after RiD goes, the Binder influences march on.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:17 PM

To me "the Aligned continuity is over" just means "the era of the Prime/Rescue Bots/RID shared universe is coming to a close." It certainly does not mean "every concept introduced as part of Aligned will be jettisoned." 



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:19 PM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if "Cyberverse" is functionally indistinguishable from "Aligned" in terms of its lore and characters, but just won't be part of the same over-arcing loose timeline.


Edited by Chris McFeely, 03 August 2017 - 04:19 PM.


#60 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:22 PM

To me "the Aligned continuity is over" just means "the era of the Prime/Rescue Bots/RID shared universe is coming to a close." It certainly does not mean "every concept introduced as part of Aligned will be jettisoned." 

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