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@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.


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#41 Noideaforaname

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:25 PM

Is "From the looks, the series is a redux of Transformers G1" based solely on the images used in that one slide? Because that would seem to be reading an awful lot into those unless somewhere there actually said "redux of G1" or something similar. 

 

Well, TFW did up and declare "Beast Hunters" to be a Beast Wars sequel when we first heard about it, so....



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:26 PM

"The Binder of Revelation is dead" is an overreaction. Movies, comics, toys and no doubt this cartoon will all be using concepts generated by that book. Just because Alvarez's stupid surrealistic plan of an ongoing continuity across all media didn't work out it doesn't mean the binder is in a dusty room. In fact it was the center piece of the writer's room!

 

My only worry about this is honestly the art style, would be a shame to have it be too g1-ish and end up with two toylines that look nearly the same instead of the cool variety we had the last 7 years.



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:29 PM

I sincerely hope this Cyberverse cartoon is more 'The Brave and the Bold' and less 'Transformers: Regurgitation'.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

I hope "Cyberverse" is not a name reuse but an indication of the toyline plans.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

Man, and I was all set to make the "CYBERVERSE LIVES" signs.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:36 PM

I believe that MASK image is something we've seen before, and that it recycles at least one of the DOTM Wreckers. Am I misremembering?



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:38 PM

I was thinking the same thing. The fact that two of the vehicles look nothing alike shows just how rough a mock it is. "Do we have something that looks like it has helmets and cool vehicles? Great, that's all we need."



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

I liked RiD in that it was unafraid to do stuff that no other Transformers show had really done (eg. not having an Optimus or a Convoy lead the team, no Megatron/Galvatron, useful and likeable human characters, amazing diversity of new characters for future franchises to adapt that weren't tied to G1 in any way.) Plot and pacing wise, though.... it could have been better.

Maybe, in retrospect, RiD was more of a placeholder show while Hasbro re-jiggered its approach than anything really designed to shake up the franchise, but I'm worried that the next show, in keeping with how Hasbro seems to be moving these days, will just be a G1-rehash "ONE SHALL STAND ONE SHALL FALL" type show...

#49 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

"The Binder of Revelation is dead" is an overreaction. Movies, comics, toys and no doubt this cartoon will all be using concepts generated by that book. Just because Alvarez's stupid surrealistic plan of an ongoing continuity across all media didn't work out it doesn't mean the binder is in a dusty room. In fact it was the center piece of the writer's room!

The writer's room said very early on they wanted to explore the Transformers mythos. It seems likely that Hasbro gave them the binder as part of that process.

And Alvarez's plan pretty much was Aligned. The idea that you'd have video games, novels, toys, and tv shows all following the same continuity. Early on I remember a lot of Aligned talk from Hasbro's end was how everything you knew before was being channeled into just this new mega continuity. They even said something about Aligned being it's own thing, entirely separate from the previously established multi-verse.

My point is that this obviously didn't pan out. Internal consistancy among Aligned's properties was never there. And with Alvarez and Archer moving on? It's clear that the plans for Aligned to be this thing that swallowed up everything else are done away with.
Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections. No more Aligned novels. A video game that pulled from G1 and IDW rather than any of the Aligned games.

And now the Aligned show's replacement doesn't appear to be in that continuity either. At best? Ongoing Aligned fiction will just be ReacueBots. And that's hilarious, considering Alvarez didn't even want it in the Aligned continuity in the first place.
 

My only worry about this is honestly the art style, would be a shame to have it be too g1-ish and end up with two toylines that look nearly the same instead of the cool variety we had the last 7 years.

I think the latter end of RiD 2015's line gives us a good idea of what to expect from Cyberverse.
Stuff like RiD Starscream, Soundwave, and Bludgeon that are obviously G1 referential without being "Classics/Generations" style updates.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

Cyberverse better be told through the magic of the Cybernet Space Cube or I'm out.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

I'm hoping for TF Brave and the Bold, but that's just setting myself up for disappointment.

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#53 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:49 PM

Cyberverse better be told through the magic of the Cybernet Space Cube or I'm out.

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

 

Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..

 

 

I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 03:57 PM

I'm hoping for TF Brave and the Bold, but that's just setting myself up for disappointment.

 

Well, now I'm going to be disappointed when it winds up not being that.

 

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#56 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:05 PM

 Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..
 

 
I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.
Nope. Not at all. First, I never said Aligned was "obliterated." Just over. Or close to being over.
Secondly? Aligned itself featured the Omega Lock. Which was taken from the UT. The Omega Lock was introduced in the Prime show in 2012. I don't think I'm out on a limb to say that the UT as a continuity was over and done with by 2012.

Fact is that Aligned, like every other continuity, contributed something to the brand. In this case? The G1-based PotP line is running with the idea of the Thirteen. That doesn't mean Aligned as an active continuity isn't winding down. It's just that another ongoing continuity took some of its concepts.
Yes, Prime Wars uses some Aligned concepts. It's not connected to the Aligned continuity family. No more so than Aligned was connected to the UT via the Omega Lock.

Besides. The Thirteen weren't even an original Aligned concept anyway. Given the role Vector Prime played in the very earliest Thirteen fiction? It's not unfair to say it has UT roots as much as it is to say it has Aligned roots.

Edited by LordGigaIce, 03 August 2017 - 04:06 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:06 PM

 

 

Since they left? We've gotten a three part story via Generations with no Aligned connections..

 

 

I mean, isn't this patently false? Aligned IS the Binder of Revalation, and there are only Twelve Primes, and the other one is (or at least was) Optimus Prime whilst he held the Matrix. To say that Aligned is completely obliterated like this is paying too much attention to the literal continuity of origin and too little to all of the concepts that actually came of it.

 

Power of the Primes leverages stuff that originated from the Binder for its entire gimmick and back story, so while Aligned is basically dead after RiD goes, the Binder influences march on.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:17 PM

To me "the Aligned continuity is over" just means "the era of the Prime/Rescue Bots/RID shared universe is coming to a close." It certainly does not mean "every concept introduced as part of Aligned will be jettisoned." 



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:19 PM

I wouldn't be at all surprised if "Cyberverse" is functionally indistinguishable from "Aligned" in terms of its lore and characters, but just won't be part of the same over-arcing loose timeline.


Edited by Chris McFeely, 03 August 2017 - 04:19 PM.


#60 LordGigaIce

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 04:22 PM

To me "the Aligned continuity is over" just means "the era of the Prime/Rescue Bots/RID shared universe is coming to a close." It certainly does not mean "every concept introduced as part of Aligned will be jettisoned." 

Exactly.



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