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@  Maximus Ambus : (04 June 2020 - 11:51 PM)

They dubbed reaction shots and running scenes in the first two UT shows with "huh?" and grunts. very annoying.

@  Sabrblade : (04 June 2020 - 06:10 PM)

Watch it in Japanese with English subs. Karyuudo did all that work for us so that we could. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (04 June 2020 - 06:08 PM)

I tried... but it just wasn't that good. The comics were better.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 June 2020 - 04:07 PM)

I didn't even watch Armada when it originally aired.

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 June 2020 - 01:52 PM)

Anyone watch Armada anymore ._.

@  JRSBill : (03 June 2020 - 01:06 PM)

bain

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 June 2020 - 04:14 AM)

UBI is coming.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 June 2020 - 09:30 PM)

I can just HEAR his screechy G1 voice saying that....

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 June 2020 - 09:30 PM)

*Dies laughing* XDDDDDD

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 June 2020 - 07:01 PM)

Megatron's coupon has failed! Now I, Starscream, shall speak to your manager!

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 June 2020 - 06:39 PM)

(i just want to make jokes excuse my doing)

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 June 2020 - 06:38 PM)

ITS STARSCREAM.... AND HIS CLONES

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 June 2020 - 06:31 PM)

And there was no one there when I started!

@  Steevy Maximus : (02 June 2020 - 06:31 PM)

I swear, I'm in line to use a coupon, there is something wrong with said coupon, and suddenly I'm holding up a line of 3 or 4 people

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 June 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Ha! Talk about getting away with something!

@  Maximus Ambus : (01 June 2020 - 09:08 AM)

Carnivac was still an evil Decepticon at heart, and no one shot him in the back for it.

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 06:52 PM)

*stares at the light switch* .... I see what you did there

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (30 May 2020 - 01:40 PM)

*hands llittleautobot1218 a light switch* There you go.

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 10:53 AM)

I feel a need to lighten up the mood.... ;)

@  -LittleAutob... : (30 May 2020 - 10:38 AM)

:p

@  Maximus Ambus : (30 May 2020 - 02:14 AM)

Shockwave did it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (30 May 2020 - 12:21 AM)

I'm not in the US and at least some of the episodes seem to work for me. I don't know the actual list of places it's available, though.

@  Shockwave 75 : (29 May 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Unfortunately It seems Cyberverse is only available in the US on YouTube.

@  -LittleAutob... : (29 May 2020 - 09:19 AM)

Yes, and its ongoing.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (29 May 2020 - 01:05 AM)

Cyberverse is already officially uploaded to YouTube.

@  fourteenwings : (29 May 2020 - 12:36 AM)

Spin Master is abridging current episodes of Bakugan Armored Alliance and posting the result on YouTube. Maybe Hasbro does that someday too.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 10:59 PM)

I see... :/

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 08:14 PM)

Within the US anyway. Those channels aren't easy or cheap to access in other countries, and their website often region lock content. Tubi is the only good thing on that list: largely identical (but not perfectly so. Damnit. I wanna watch COPS.) country to country and free.

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:24 PM)

So yeah, Hasbro is using plenty of venues to spread exposure of their brands

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Starz currently licenses Transformers G1 and the GI Joe movie (as well as MLP specials). Netflix has more current series available.

@  Nevermore : (28 May 2020 - 07:21 PM)

Study shows: Holders of the title "world's oldest person" have a severely increased risk of dying.

@  Steevy Maximus : (28 May 2020 - 07:18 PM)

Tubi TV and Youtube both host various Hasbro cartoons. Both are freely accessed and ad supported. Any basic TV package (barring straight antenna) includes channels like USA Network, SyFy and FX, all of which regularly air the films from Transformers and GI Joe.

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 06:18 PM)

I dunno what to tell you, media might be changing slowly, but at least it's still accessible. Even the folks that DON'T get one of the streaming services can watch it on the company website. It's a vehicle for the toy line after all, they need to make an effort to make it as consumable as possible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 05:41 PM)

Well. Thats said, then.... I guess... :doh

@  wonko the sane? : (28 May 2020 - 04:13 PM)

As long as the the cartoons are profitable, then they'll make more. The media it's shown on is completely irrelevant. I say that as a guy whose earliest surviving memory is a big red truck turning into a big red robot.

@  ZakuConvoy : (28 May 2020 - 03:06 PM)

Might be the end of an era. With the rise of streaming, who knows if Transformers will ever be on broadcast TV again.

@  -LittleAutob... : (28 May 2020 - 11:46 AM)

3 seasons on a show is usually enough... but yeah ;-;

@  Roddie Luver : (27 May 2020 - 09:37 PM)

I’m also sad Cyberverse has no season four.

@  Paladin : (26 May 2020 - 08:10 PM)

it's too hugging hot today.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.


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#1 Maruten

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 11:09 PM

https://www.allspark...on-on-robotech/
 
DC did some pretty good stuff with their Robotech books I think? But it's great to see the license alive again somewhere. Well, it is if you're a Robotech fan. And kind of bizarre to see Furman on it. 
 
"Titan also plans on republishing the entire back catalogue of Robotech comics from Comico onward" is a pretty remarkable sentence to read, too. They pumped a LOT of stuff out back in the day. 
 
If we must turn this thread into the inevitable HG/Macek bashfest let's do so in a civilised manner, shall we? :)

For posterity, here are a selection of previous topics relating to Harmony Gold or Robotech and its source material.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 11:40 PM

...Robotech is still a thing?


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 12:03 AM

It's generally in a sort of hybrid state of having previously been a thing and perennially trying to become a thing again, but basically... yes. A bit. 

 

Post-Shadow Chronicles Actual Animated Fiction turned out not to be a thing, but there are always toys coming from somewhere, they're pushing the original series on Hulu and Netflix (can they pull a Voltron perhaps?!) etc. Palladium is still churning out RPG content.

 

Robotech.com has LOTS of stuff to sell you if you need a fix. I mean, I'm sure YOU don't need a fix, but some people do. 


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 12:56 AM

Am I the only person that kinda wants to see a new Robotech trilogy?  Where someone takes three series unrelated aside from art style and makes it into a single generation-spanning epic?


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 03:27 AM

Only if the three series western to avoid any ugly cultural supremacist allusions.

 

 

If we must turn this thread into the inevitable HG/Macek bashfest let's do so in a civilised manner, shall we? :)

 

Speaking of, does anyone else remember ages ago when we had a Robotech/Macross argument here and some guy I was arguing with claimed Robotech saved Macross' studio? At the time I kinda wanted to stop arguing so I accepted it and backed off, but a few months later I looked back at the thread and the link he posted to support the claim didn't prove anything at all.

 

I'm still pissed off about that. Let's have a round two, whoever you were.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 04:18 AM

Only if the three series western to avoid any ugly cultural supremacist allusions.

I think it's far more obvious that the people involved had cultural supremacist illusions than that any one choice or detail reflects them. I'm sure the results would be measurably different if we were talking about a collection of French rather than Japanese cartoons but you'd need to run some spreadsheets.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 04:36 AM

It disgust me that people will still give harmony gold money.

Its suffering being a macross fan in the west

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 06:05 AM

Am I the only person that kinda wants to see a new Robotech trilogy?  Where someone takes three series unrelated aside from art style and makes it into a single generation-spanning epic?


I think there can be a remarkable creative exercise in this kind of thing, but it's 2017 and I'd we're just kind of past the point where that's a smart or valid thing to do. Peoples is too smart, they'll just bitch forever about you bastardising the OSM. One imagines that part of the reason Robotech carved such a firm foothold was that back then nobody knew any better. When the show was airing, there weren't a lot of people sitting there going UH IT'S MISA NOT LISA. By the time we understood the situation better, Robotech had fashioned its own legitimacy -- or believed it had -- and while it's obviously something of a black sheep it still has fans.

I'm one of them, I think the connective tissue Macek and co built gives us a whole that's more than the sum of its parts (though I happily confess that nostalgia may be an overriding factor for me). I also think hello it's (still) 2017, there's room for Robotech AND Macross AND the boring one AND the good one. There's no excuse for Harmony Gold doing all that... Harmony Gold stuff they've done.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

For the record, I'm glad that Robotech is still out there. I mean, I don't have firm memories of it - I caught the odd rerun on Toonami years ago, but I wasn't really able to follow it - but it's not a big thing for me.

 

Still, from the perspective of an outsider looking in, it feels like Harmony Gold is doing more to hurt itself and its property than it is to help it. I hear more about their lawsuits than I do their product.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 05:52 PM

Yeah. HGUSA is... Not doing itself any favors.

 

That doesn't mean I don't love Robotech and would totally buy this if (A) I read comics and (B) it wasn't starting as another re-tread of The Macross Saga (at least from the pics). I hope it does well, because, man, the Robotech world is great.

 

Still, reprinting all of the old material? That might be worth it for Sentinels, even if Sentinels gets kind-of weak / weird in places (anything to do with Tesla, IMO).

 

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 06:29 PM

In terms of Harmony Gold actually doing anything, it certainly tends to look more like "here's another coffee mug to make it seem like the property is alive" than "actually keeping Robotech alive in a meaningful way". They rely a lot on third parties trying to cash in on the license. I mean, it seems like HG is always trying to get new movies or shows happening, but unfortunately nobody seems to care. Shadow Chronicles was far from perfect but I'd rather see more of that than nothing. 

 

It's a franchise that would really benefit from a ground-up reboot -- take the amazing world building that Macek and his successors did and use it to create a series that isn't just Frankesteined together using Nonsense Glue. Take the show as your base while bringing in the best new elements of McKinney or the Waltrips etc.

 

They should REALLY be looking to Voltron for the key to their future. The source material there is rubbish compared to Robotech and Netflix has something spectacular on their hands. A modernised Robotech saga that actually organically segued from generation to generation would be achievable and magnificent. 

 

I'd struggle with an all new voice cast though. Those Robotech voices are so iconic.

 

ETA: hopefully Titan is trying to do something like this and we'll see hints of post-Macross stuff there sooner rather than later.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 07:40 PM

Oh, I didn't realise that actual information about the Udon art books existed yet, but here we are.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:04 PM

I feel like Voltron comparisons are difficult for the same reason I feel like Robotech comparisons are kinda unfair in discussions of Voltron. In the case of Voltron, you have two shows made successively by the same studio as different spins of the same concept that died domestically, cut together into a mix no one really remembers one show's contribution to anyway, that then took off as a major property here in the States. The original studio then animated fresh episodes in the newly rewritten continuity to seal it all up, which is to say that they had themselves abandoned GoLion for Voltron because the latter was more profitable. That's not nostalgia goggles and media provincialism! That difference in the relationship leaves Robotech feeling kinda skeevy in ways that Voltron just doesn't. 

 

So taking the same tack as Voltron and rebooting everything with reimagined characters and wit and pretty animation and so on sounds appealing - but I'm still going to cringe at the US dub names and plot scampi. 

 

HG's need to circle the drain tapping the same old nostalgia for a bad dub of Macross means they'll never go even that far, but I don't know if even that would be quite far enough for me. I'd much rather see them step back to broker a deal with Netflix or whoever and just make a US cartoon for whatever toys Big West (I guess?) is selling right now. You know, make up your own, new anglo-named characters if you like, but at least keep the franchise name....


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:28 PM

Could also just make a brand new unrelated mecha series untainted by Robotech.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:28 PM

Also an option.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:52 PM

To be clear when I mention Voltron I'm not in any way invoking the original series; I mostly just mean "make a good show". 

 

The model we see on Netflix (I should really be saying "from Dreamworks" or whoever I guess) where they take the most fundamental elements of the original and then just do whatever the hell they want with them seems like a winner. For every OSM-faithful decision there's a big departure. Because they just sat down in 2016 and said "let's take this license and make a great show". "Let's use these building blocks but not let slavish adherence to history interfere with the creation of engaging characters and a compelling narrative". 

 

[Bleep] is a girl, Allura looks weird, what's a "Shiro"? WHAT HAPPENED TO CORAN... but we survive. It's a great show. I would just love to see what might have happened if it was Robotech they were working with. Give Macross, Mospeada and Southern Cross some breathing room. Lean on them less while still heaping recogniseable flesh onto the skeleton Macek assembled from them. I suppose to a degree that's what they were trying to achieve with Shadow Chronicles. But. 

 

There are other factors that may influence Robotech's future of course... will we ever see this live action movie? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Speaking of "movies", a Robotech reboot would even allow them to reinstate stuff from Robotech: The Movie without needing the Megazone 23 footage they no longer have rights to. That's probably not going to be high on anyone's priority list, but it's an idea with some appeal I think.

 

Anyway, BRB, renaming this thread to "Tim rants about Robotech forever"


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:22 PM

I've long thought that the best thing HGUSA could do with Robotech is to ignore the Hunters, Sterlings, Bernard, etc and just focus on using what they have. I mean, there's this big rich universe and continuity to play with, but all everyone at HG cares about is the continuing adventures of Rick Hunter.

It's just criminally bad handling what they've done with that world. Global Civil War, Three Robotech Wars, Reconstruction, Malcontent Uprisings, post-Invid Invasion, Sentinels, Armies of the Southern Cross in South America, the EBSIS, etc. All that stuff and they just let it sit there and rot.

Speaking of "movies", a Robotech reboot would even allow them to reinstate stuff from Robotech: The Movie without needing the Megazone 23 footage they no longer have rights to. That's probably not going to be high on anyone's priority list, but it's an idea with some appeal I think."

*Raises hand* But only if they somehow manage to create a Not-Hargun, Not-MODAT, and Not-EVE, because otherwise you get "The Master's Gambit" and nobody wants that.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:39 PM

Good to see the comic is complete garbage as expected.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:46 PM

Bugger!


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:53 PM

Yikes.

Well, at least I still have my McKinney novels & RPG books.

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