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@  Cybersnark : (23 October 2018 - 05:41 PM)

Canonically, Soong DID create a perfectly human-like consciousness. He's called Lore. It ended badly.

@  Patch : (23 October 2018 - 04:52 PM)

Alternatively, Data's creator was a 24th century hipster and wanted to make the android equivalent of a vinyl record album.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:46 PM)

Data was also written when such predictive algorithms were a pipe dream. Science marches on.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 October 2018 - 04:18 PM)

Ergo, if Data the 24th century Star Trek android was a real-life 24th century machine, then everyone would laugh at his creator for being too dumb to equip Data with human-equivalent thinking by default, thereby rendering Data disadvantaged for social interaction with organics.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 October 2018 - 04:17 PM)

If you think about it, we already have algorithms in 2018 that can predict certain human behaviors with stunning accuracy (e.g. tracking cookies that can pick up if someone is already shopping for pregnany products).

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 October 2018 - 04:15 PM)

I should point out that the real life sci-fi concept of "machine-like thinking" and robots / androids relies a lot on the arbitrary trope of A.I. and metallic species being less sophisticated than humans.

@  Sabrblade : (23 October 2018 - 11:27 AM)

One could argue that Optimus Prime has, in recent years, been performed less like a person and more like a computer. :p

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 11:23 AM)

The beautiful thing about the franchise is that it's big enough to endure. You can walk away for a while and come back later to see if you like whats new.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:06 AM)

But that's one of my many reasons to be tremendously bored with the state of TF fiction. (Others include: hey, let's have the Transformers actually transform sometimes.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:04 AM)

I'm saying, there are levels. The closest anyone comes is (occasionally) allowing Shockwave to be an actual robot. I would love to see a story where the only reason they've been fighting this long is because they are computers. Once a level of humanity is introduced, they actually stop fighting (only to have the inevitability of back-sliding into fighting again because of that same humanity.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:00 AM)

I entirely understand the necessity of some level of anthropomorphism. However, essentially turning them all into really tall metallic humans is not only entirely without purpose, it's boring as heck.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 10:54 AM)

But machine life has to be anthropomorphized, otherwise we don't see the life, just the machine.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 10:04 AM)

Maybe we just need writers with better imaginations. Perhaps over-humanizing the Transformers is the longest running problem with every TF fiction ever. Just perhaps.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 09:33 AM)

Yeah, but they are machines. Couldn't they just adjust their own memories for the lifespan? Do we even know how they store memories in the first place?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

Athletic Entertainment

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:20 PM

Got an image of TFs you want to share but doesn't fit into any active topic? Post it here!

 

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#2 Cabooceratops

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:21 PM

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#3 Copper Bezel

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:25 PM

And a word of warning: find a hosting service other than PhotoBucket.

Aw, why would you say that? Incidentally check out this awesome new leak of Power of the Primes Sideways.

 

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XD


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:27 PM

 

And a word of warning: find a hosting service other than PhotoBucket.

Aw, why would you say that? Incidentally check out this awesome new leak of Power of the Primes Sideways.

 

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XD

 

 

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:37 PM

Look, at least it's not Tarantulas again.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:39 PM

 

And a word of warning: find a hosting service other than PhotoBucket.

Aw, why would you say that? Incidentally check out this awesome new leak of Power of the Primes Sideways.

 

oS6ej6Y.jpg

 

XD

 

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:53 PM

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Dark of the Moon: Silent Movie Edition! It... it made sense in context... I think? Probably.



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:54 PM

I love everything about this image Foffy shared elsewhere some time ago. Now it has a home.

 

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Sadly I can't find the original source, just Zerochan, Pinterest, etc. reposts.

 

Edit: Also a good time (before I start something I don't intend) to note that we are on Random Image Thread rules in here, so the dress code applies.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 31 July 2017 - 10:14 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


#9 Tyranno

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 10:12 PM

Look, at least it's not Tarantulas again.

 

every cloud, etc. etc.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 10:31 PM

Any excuse to post this one.  And it's SG-1's 20th Anniversary!

 

 

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 03:37 AM

Can't really be bothered to post them all myself but Ponzu has a pretty good collection of G1-themed Transformer girls.

 

https://www.pixiv.ne...ust_id=52805498

 

Think you might need an account for big sizes tho. As to NSFW-ness, there's a few noticable midriffs but nothing too bad, but mods feel free to delete and ban me if you disagree.


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#12 Copper Bezel

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 04:01 AM

Oh, yeah, I vaguely remember that set. Geez those are nicely done. So many lovely little character cues there. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 08:38 AM

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 09:51 AM

Can't really be bothered to post them all myself but Ponzu has a pretty good collection of G1-themed Transformer girls.

 

https://www.pixiv.ne...ust_id=52805498

 

Think you might need an account for big sizes tho. As to NSFW-ness, there's a few noticable midriffs but nothing too bad, but mods feel free to delete and ban me if you disagree.

 

Wow, yeah, those are nice. I like Jazz in particular, and most of the minibots are adorable (chunky frilly poofy Cosmos!)



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Posted 01 August 2017 - 12:58 PM

I love everything about this image Foffy shared elsewhere some time ago. Now it has a home.

 

[SNIP]

 

Sadly I can't find the original source, just Zerochan, Pinterest, etc. reposts.

 

Edit: Also a good time (before I start something I don't intend) to note that we are on Random Image Thread rules in here, so the dress code applies.

I gotcha covered.



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Posted 01 August 2017 - 02:29 PM

Thanks! = D That Shockwave is fun, too, pity there isn't a final version. 
 

As to NSFW-ness, there's a few noticable midriffs but nothing too bad, but mods feel free to delete and ban me if you disagree.

Ha, don't expect my worries about following the rules to extend to enforcing them, I could just picture the timeline where I came back and the thread was nothing but mecha musume metal lingerie and I had to ban everyone. XD
 

Wow, yeah, those are nice. I like Jazz in particular, and most of the minibots are adorable (chunky frilly poofy Cosmos!)

Definitely, I love Cosmos! Also the only time the Datsuns have ever looked better than the MP mold. Or maybe an even wash?
 
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They just nail the personalities so much. Reminds me a lot of this set, another of my faves. 
 
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Unrelated, but this one's had a special spot in my heart and hard drive for years.
 
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Edited by Copper Bezel, 01 August 2017 - 02:29 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

Are we posting Transformer girls?
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https://www.pixiv.ne...ust_id=55119758

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 03:53 PM

A tribute to Classics/Universe 2.0

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 04:00 PM

Uploading a bunch of the pictures I saved from ebay auctions to an imgur album.


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Posted 01 August 2017 - 04:03 PM

Uploading a bunch of the pictures I saved from ebay auctions to an imgur album.

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There we go
 

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