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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not


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#21 MrBlud

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:59 AM

The Springer redeco (we never got) probably would've been the upgrade.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:40 AM

The Springer redeco (we never got) probably would've been the upgrade.

Had it happened it would have been the one SG upgrade that was actually a physical upgrade!

SG Galvatron's a wash. The Evac mould's better than the Energon Voyager Megatron mould used for SG Megs. As far as being a toy goes (though I think the Evac mould is shorter iirc). Fictionally though? I have to think "rescue helicopter" is a bit of a step down from "space jet."

And SG Optimus/Nova getting smaller with each "upgrade" sort of became a running gag as far as I was concerned.

As I said...I preferred SG when it was it's own thing that kind of had some fun with TF tropes. I didn't care for it when it got involved in multiverse stuff. Then again I don't care for the "across the multiverse" stuff anyway *shrug*

As far as character design went...
I'm going to echo Magnusblitz. I liked less obvious decos. Like SG Megatron and SG Galvatron both have pretty traditional Megs and Galvy colour schemes. They each just take their respective schemes in a more "heroic" direction. While still looking very much like Megs and Galvy.
Same with Ultra Magnus. He's still using Diaclone PC colours, but now he has a skull face and douchebag tribal tattoos. I dig it.

Optimus and Rodimus were great because they didn't hijack the colour schemes of "positive universe" Decepitcons. They looked like you took their G1 colour schemes and put them through "evil" and "grimy" filters.
Optimus-as-Nova was neat. SG Nova uses the same colour scheme as Nova Prime does elsewhere. The difference was that he was now a benevolent upgrade of crazypants SG Optimus. Rather than being a tyrant from the distance past. Nova Prime's deco wasn't inverted. His character origin/personality was.

I also dug the mininots who had their schemes based off of the 2007 movie scout assortment repaints from the UT. Like that black and gold Cybertron Armourhide repaint being SG Huffer. Or that muted olive and military green repaint of Energon Strongarm being SG Brawn.

I was also a fan of the weird pulls. SG Soundwave being based off of the primarily white iPod-looking version of MusicLabel Soundwave was cool. As was basing SG Prowl off of a Mexican variant of G1 Prowl.

Basically any redeco, virtual or otherwise, that wasn't just "here's a character in his opposite number's colour scheme. Isn't it whacky here in opposite land???" was a win in my book. Grimlock done up as Trypticon and Starscream done up as Jetfire seem a bit on the dull side.

The worst had to be SG Cyclonus in Hot Rod colours though. That one character exemplifies every pratfall you can fall into when doing a "mirror universe" story. His colour scheme is just a boring reproduction of the character's opposite number from the "main" continuity. And his personality is just inverted. G1 Cyclonus was loyal? Well now he's a traitor!
It was just dull. Thankfully SG managed to pull itself up from that nadir, but it still has me shaking my head years later.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 10:07 AM

 And his personality is just inverted. G1 Cyclonus was loyal? Well now he's a traitor!

 

His whole ordeal in "Coalescence" was about his path to redemption.


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

G1 Cyclonus is a purple guy who wears a purple symbol, so it makes sense to me that his counterpart from the universe where he wears a red symbol would be a red guy.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 10:40 AM

Been trying to think of an intended chronological reading order of the main SG fiction. Disregarding smaller ancillary media like bios/profiles and Around Cybertron/Recordicons, I think this might be correct:

 

Shattered Glass

Dungeons & Dinobots

Do Over

The Desert Heat!

Eye in the Sky

Blitzwing Bop

Transhuman

Reunification: Parts 1-6

The Coming Storm: Part 1

Coalescence (before the final epilogue)

Invasion Prologue

Invasion

Solar Requiem

Spatiotemporal Challengers Parts 1-4

Invasion Epilogue (this is technically more of a TransTech story, but it reads well as a direct lead-in to BWSG)

Beast Wars Shattered Glass, Chapters 1-6

Another Light, Prologue, Parts 1-6

Whichever chapter of "Of Masters and Mayhem" it was that featured one last look at the main SG universe.

The third epilogue of "Coalescence"

 

Although, since the SG fiction became so intertwined with the Classics fiction starting with "Invasion", I may want to add in the Classics fiction around all this and make it a "Classics/Shattered Glass" chronology list.


Edited by Sabrblade, 18 July 2017 - 10:42 AM.

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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 10:55 AM

I think Blitzwing Bop ranks among my favorite club stories ever, up there with BWU stuff. It captures the feel of Sunbow so perfectly while still having some impact on the larger plot. Transhuman was also good, but holy geez is Coalescence disappointing to me.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:29 AM

 And his personality is just inverted. G1 Cyclonus was loyal? Well now he's a traitor!

 
His whole ordeal in "Coalescence" was about his path to redemption.
Never read it. I don't say that in a "proud of my ignorance" sort of way. More along the lines of "I was burnt out by the Shattered Glass story's excesses by that point."

G1 Cyclonus is a purple guy who wears a purple symbol, so it makes sense to me that his counterpart from the universe where he wears a red symbol would be a red guy.

Yeah, but then SG Ironhide ruined it.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:20 PM

My original idea for SG Drift was basically Bandit Keith from Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged. Hyperpatriotic idiot. Always called Optimus "Mr. President". A little BW Inferno-y maybe, but still.

 

 

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:22 PM

My original idea for SG Drift was basically Bandit Keith from Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged. Hyperpatriotic idiot. Always called Optimus "Mr. President". A little BW Inferno-y maybe, but still.
 
 
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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:08 PM

Cyclonus was a "traitor", but not meant as a malicious one... despite, you know, killing a guy.

He was gullible, confused, manipulated. He thought he was doing the right thing for Cybertron at the time because Alpha Trion was whispering in his ear. The whole Alpha Trion/Skyfall dynamic showing how it could happen... but Skyfall stayed just unswayed enough to see Alpha Trion's crazy finally bleed through.

As for Drift, I wasn't ever really happy with him as a "Mech with a Mouth". Just wasn't my favorite (not saying its bad or wrong, just not how I would have pictured him). I did kinda like how Andrew Hall changed him in Spatiotemporal Challengers. Still not sure if that would have been my treatment for the character but there is charm in Robot Deadpool coming to Earth, watching too many Samurai movies, and changing his lifestyle because of them.


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:10 PM

All this talk of SG Drift is making me wish I still had mine. :(


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:17 PM

And I do regret not having enough time while writing "Coalescence" for the full research I like to do. So a lot was based on the Wiki, a very quick skimming, and my own memory.

But that was a very short turnaround given the ending of the Club. So I did my best to work in handwaves with the timeline and character selection while trying to tie off story lines that had to be changed because the drastic changes in the universe that came with the 2012 and subsequent stories.

All those things and yeah. It's all a completely different tone than what came before. Not a fan of that myself, although I do like it well enough as a stand alone.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 04:20 PM

This should have always been the model for Shattered Glass Drift. You know it, I know it, the DOG knows it, Irene. (Yes, it's already mostly white, but that just means it'd need to be covered in more patriotism.)

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:18 PM

The evolution of the mock ups went:

Orange and blue Naruto-inspired -> Knock Out-inspired shown at BotCon 2011(?) -> Deadpool-inspired eternal flamester

Changing the country of his patriotism did come up of course. Well actually by Greg, like he said. Heh. But I think we all just had different ideas for what he could and should be.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:28 PM

FWIW, I like the final toy's Deadpool-ish deco and card bio.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:31 PM

A Naruto color scheme, while hilarious, would've never worked for SG Drift. He's the opposite of positive Drift, so he needs to be the exact opposite of a weeaboo.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:41 PM

A Naruto color scheme, while hilarious, would've never worked for SG Drift. He's the opposite of positive Drift, so he needs to be the exact opposite of a weeaboo.


I think the idea wasn't "opposite" but... well... if I remember...

He basically would have been the guy cosplaying IDW Drift if they existed in the same universe. A fan boy who found himself in an actual war, and he's completely unprepared. He can spout scores of dialog on cue, and his Great Sword is actually the Cybertronian version of cardboard and foil, but his swordplay video is on the Cybernet so he was enlisted without background check.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:43 PM

A Naruto color scheme, while hilarious, would've never worked for SG Drift. He's the opposite of positive Drift, so he needs to be the exact opposite of a weeaboo.

 

I mean. Naruto is actually Asian.

 

I'd say that's the exact opposite of a weeaboo right there.


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 05:49 PM

 

A Naruto color scheme, while hilarious, would've never worked for SG Drift. He's the opposite of positive Drift, so he needs to be the exact opposite of a weeaboo.

 

I mean. Naruto is actually Asian.

 

I'd say that's the exact opposite of a weeaboo right there.

 

True enough, I suppose. I'd just imagine Drift as being something along the lines of........Evel Knievel



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 06:03 PM

I honestly think the guys who were "evil skew on their regular personality" tended to be much more interesting than the "complete opposite" guys.


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