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@  Nevermore : (26 January 2021 - 12:47 PM)

Question to all the native English speakers: Those of you familiar with Australian singer Sia - how hard are her vocals for you to understand?

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 January 2021 - 04:44 AM)

Calm down, Dirge.

@  Paladin : (25 January 2021 - 09:44 PM)

death comes for us all. what difference does it make how?

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 January 2021 - 06:26 PM)

It's only murder and that is all, why should I feel the way I do...

@  Rufus : (25 January 2021 - 01:37 PM)

It's only murder if it comes from the Murder region of France, otherwise it's just suspiciously deceased.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 January 2021 - 09:17 AM)

It's only murder if they find the body, otherwise it's just a missing persons case.

@  Telly : (24 January 2021 - 02:31 AM)

so light yagami is a BAD role model? but ive already got a death note...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 January 2021 - 11:43 PM)

Do you always model proper behavior after anime characters?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 January 2021 - 06:34 PM)

Don't forget Yu-Gi-Oh and the Millennium items.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 January 2021 - 02:51 PM)

There was a five season anime with wearing relics as the premise.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 January 2021 - 01:16 PM)

You don't wear relics, you enshrine them.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 06:23 PM)

Wrong holey... and probably the wrong way to dress too.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2021 - 06:09 PM)

If your underwear is old and holy, it is considered a relic and should be protected with your life.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 02:04 PM)

That's the argument we keep making: but I still need to wait till feb 8th minimum to replace my holey underwear.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2021 - 01:57 PM)

Personally I'm glad Ontario wasn't so misguided as to try to define what is or isn't "essential" for big box stores like Walmart to sell. If someone is stuck at home literally for weeks and unable to go out, who's to say a new TV or game console isn't essential (if only for one's sanity) if theirs breaks down?

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2021 - 01:55 PM)

Although fortunately, Ontario's daily cases and positivity rate has been on a steady decline for the past week or so; if they can get the vaccinations back on track, there is some hope.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2021 - 01:53 PM)

And as far as Canada's lockdowns go, I'm guessing none of them will end until late March, or perhaps the beginning of April. What small businesses that might be left at that point will be allowed to open for their going out of business sales.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2021 - 01:52 PM)

Unfortunately the CEO of Target Canada made more money by running the company into the ground than he ever would have had he made it a success, so there was zero incentive to succeed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 January 2021 - 01:51 PM)

Target made some serious mistakes when they came into Canada. They focused on opening like 150+ stores within a 2 year timeframe and had no online infrastructure whatsoever; their website literally only contained legal blurbs and a store locator... lacking even the ability to see what they sold in stores, or if it was in stock and, if so, where. They should have started with 1/3 the number of stores with a full online experience including online shopping and inventory checking

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 12:35 PM)

See; quebec is under a new lockdown, have been since the 26th. It's supposed to end the 8th of february, but probably won't. Stores are only supposed to sell necessities (in deference to the stores which are closed.), but the quebec government made no effort define what counts as a "necessity", only punished them for getting it wrong. So I can buy all the candy I want, but not underwear, boots, winterwear, small appliances. Hell, my brother had to explain why he wanted a FUSE when he needed to fix his stove shortly before new years.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 12:31 PM)

Targets don't exist in canada anymore. They lasted like 3 years before abandoning the market. But even if they WERE still here: they would be under the same poorly defined restrictions as walmart.

@  -LittleAutob... : (22 January 2021 - 12:10 PM)

Target's better-

@  wonko the sane? : (22 January 2021 - 07:51 AM)

HA! my walmarts can't even sell underwear. There's no clearances going on up here.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 January 2021 - 11:31 PM)

Check your Walmarts: Post-Christmas clearances are going on and I snagged Need For Speed Hot Pursuit Remastered for Switch for only $5 (YMMV)

@  ZakuConvoy : (21 January 2021 - 03:15 PM)

*walks out on stage* Umm, I don't know how to tell everyone this, but Conway Twitty's been dead for nearly 30 years, now. So...*dances awkwardly as distraction*

@  tigerhawk : (21 January 2021 - 10:47 AM)

uh oh we need a distraction, ladies and gentlemen Conway Twitty.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 January 2021 - 10:20 AM)

*screaming internally*

@  -LittleAutob... : (21 January 2021 - 09:46 AM)

Everything is f i n e

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 January 2021 - 08:30 AM)

Everything's okay until it isn't. That's life.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 January 2021 - 08:12 AM)

Oh my god... I forgot entirely about yellowstone.

@  tigerhawk : (21 January 2021 - 03:32 AM)

Until the third civil war. Or yellowstone, whatever's good.

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2021 - 06:01 PM)

That's not true. An adult man is in control of the White House now.

@  repowers : (19 January 2021 - 03:18 PM)

Everything's out of control.

@  -LittleAutob... : (19 January 2021 - 09:51 AM)

*cough* w h a t?

@  Donocropolis : (19 January 2021 - 09:48 AM)

Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance they ain't no friends of mine

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 January 2021 - 08:52 AM)

You could leave your friends behind.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (18 January 2021 - 09:43 PM)

You could if you really wanted to.

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 January 2021 - 01:35 PM)

Nadie puede decir algo diferente >:D

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 January 2021 - 01:35 PM)

......... all wounds heal through God. *walks off*

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 January 2021 - 01:01 PM)

Let me know when the WEAPONs wake up.

@  tigerhawk : (18 January 2021 - 05:18 AM)

Or is the wound the Earth healing.

@  unluckiness : (18 January 2021 - 03:32 AM)

Healing is just destroying the wound

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 January 2021 - 06:08 PM)

But eventually destroys everything.

@  tigerhawk : (17 January 2021 - 05:03 PM)

Heals many wounds

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 January 2021 - 02:03 PM)

Time.

@  wonko the sane? : (17 January 2021 - 07:53 AM)

I dunno, maybe. I'm not clairvoyant either...

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2021 - 04:30 AM)

Covid?

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2021 - 09:50 PM)

At this point, if I'm going to die then it won't be the wait what killed me. It didn't help any, mind you, but it's not what got me.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 January 2021 - 09:37 PM)

Technically we are all literally dying to play with our next figure.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2021 - 05:36 PM)

I am figuratively dying to play with that cheetor.


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#1 SHIELD Agent 47

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:18 PM

Inspired by Spacewarp's BotCon fiction re-read, I have made a dedicated thread for discussing all things Shattered Glass: mainline SG, Shattered Expectations, SG Animated, Epilogue Two, etc. What did you like about it, what did you not like about it, would you like to see Shattered Glass in some form in the future?

 

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"One Generation Shattered" by Alex Milne

 

Previous discussion threads:

 

Transhuman

Coalescence

 

Spatiotemporal Challengers Part 1

Spatiotemporal Challengers Part 2

Spatiotemporal Challengers Part 3

Spatiotemporal Challengers Part 4

 

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 1 in TCC #49

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 2 in TCC #50

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 3 in TCC #51

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 4 in TCC #52

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 5 in TCC #53

Beast Wars Shattered Glass Chapter 6 in TCC #54

 

Another Light Prologue in TCC #60

Another Light Chapter 1 in TCC #61

Another Light Chapter 2 in TCC #62

Another Light Chapter 4 in TCC #63

Another Light Chapter 4 in TCC #64

Another Light Chapter 5 in TCC #65

Another Light Chapter 6 in TCC #66


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#2 Sabrblade

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:47 PM

I personally prefer it when SG characters have different decos from their positive polarity counterparts. SG Jazz's keeping G1 Jazz deco just makes him look like G1 Jazz in a new body, one that just happens to have some not nice sponsor text on it. He even still has a "good guy" blue visor.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:03 PM

It was a good concept that was kinda run into the ground

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:09 PM

I want to see Shattered Glass pop up in a cartoon one of these days. I NEED to hear Peter Cullen cackling like a madman about how DOOMED the foolish Decepticons are.



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:29 PM

For the most part I really loved the storyline & concepts I can't say I enjoyed Prime getting increasingly smaller & less imposing figures. I also would have liked to see him stay the villain, but oddly I can't say that I didn't like the Nova Prime direction. Was the only 3 shattered figures that were considered that we didn't get was Rodimus Prime, Bugly & Omega Doom right?

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:48 PM

Was the only 3 shattered figures that were considered that we didn't get was Rodimus Prime, Bugly & Omega Doom right?

"Considered" is an arbitrary term. The FP people were thinking of ideas all the time.

But to the point you're making, PeteCon also revealed that SG Metalhawk, Ratchet, Rollbar, Swindle, and Trailbreaker were early ideas for BotCon 2011, when the theme was SG vs. Classics. When the tentative theme became Beast Wars Shattered Glass, SG versions of Megatron, Ravage, Dinobot, Waspinator, Ramulus, Quickstrike, and Ultra Mammoth were considered.

And the concepts panel at BotCon 2014 revealed SG Stranglehold.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:48 PM

Not making Pretender Dirge a bug who jumped out of a robot was a shameful lapse in judgment.



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:54 PM

Shattered Glass kinda reminds me of some of Geoff Johns ideas, where they're neat at first but then used so much you just get tired of them.

 

I mean, I like the prose, but really....it got tiring after a while, and it's at its beast when its just more about making fun of TF tropes than "the battle ground of the multiverse" stuff.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:09 AM



I personally prefer it when SG characters have different decos from their positive polarity counterparts. SG Jazz's keeping G1 Jazz deco just makes him look like G1 Jazz in a new body, one that just happens to have some not nice sponsor text on it. He even still has a "good guy" blue visor.

 

Agreed, though Jazz is a bit of a special case - he was kept similar because he had a toy in the boxset and they were trying to provide a "Classics" Jazz (SG was 2008, Reveal the Shield Jazz was until 2010). So they basically short-shifted the fiction at the expense of selling the boxset.

 

I'll add that I didn't like the characters who simply had the color schemes of their other-faction counterpart - Grimlock having a Trypticon color scheme, or Starscream having a Jetfire color scheme, for example. The Technobots and Terrorcons just switching color schemes struck me as extremely lazy. The best ones were guys like Optimus or Rodimus, who had fully unique decos that felt like what an opposite version of that character might choose, or using an obscure alt color scheme, like Thundercracker.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 12:19 AM

Something I always wondered.

 

SG Dinobot.

 

Was he going to betray the Predacons and join the Maximals? Or was the "twist" going to be that he wouldn't? Would another SG Predacon join the SG Maximals (Scorponok?) Would a Maximal join the Predacons?


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 01:11 AM

Something I always wondered.
 
SG Dinobot.
 
Was he going to betray the Predacons and join the Maximals? Or was the "twist" going to be that he wouldn't? Would another SG Predacon join the SG Maximals (Scorponok?) Would a Maximal join the Predacons?

"Coalescence" states that on the Predacon side, Scorponok, Tarantulas, Quickstrike, Scavenger, Waspinator, plus the extradimensional Depth Charge survived Earth. Megatron, Terrorsaur, and Dinobot from "Shattered Destiny" are nowhere to be seen. On the Maximal side, Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Rattrap, and Rhinox survived. Whatever went down is left to our imaginations, I guess.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 03:12 AM

I will never forgive SG Waspinator not being a Terminator expy.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 06:12 AM

I honestly love Shattered Glass. It was actually the first BotCon fiction I ever heard of back when I was younger, and I dug the concept enough to track down the Star Trek episode "Mirror, Mirror."

SG also inspired one of the first projects I tried to do on the internet, a Super Smash Bros. machinima called "Smashed Glass" (I was 11 and very unoriginal), which would've seen Pit travel to a mirror version of the SSB world.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:00 AM

I don't think Shattered Glass was "run into the ground", but it did have a few stories where it seemed to have lost its way. The best part of Shattered Glass was that it was fun. It could go dark and creepy, but there was always a quick 180 degree play on something G1 that put a smile back on your face... Or made you groan knowingly. lol.

 

But for some of the stories in the middle of its run, it seemed to get mired or bogged down in its own plot. Or it tried to do too much, making the stories a slog to work through and the characters paper thin and the character quirks that made the mirror-versions a joy were reduced to caricatures or tropes. If they even had any dialog or focus at all. I tried to bring the fun back into it with "Another Light" and "Coalescence", so hopefully that worked for at least a few readers. Even given the direction to include the 1986 movie stuff, I tried to find an interesting way to flip most of those scenes - I do think there was a mistake in those though with the scene where Rodimus drops the gun for Galvatron. That was just too on-the-nose.

 

And then Epilogue 2... Eh. I have mixed feelings about that one. I actually really rather like a negative polarity Axiom Nexus and negative polarity Multiverse existing elsewhere. Trying to cram the set-up into a page and three panels though made the writing cumbersome. And the intro of the negative Sunbow universe is just slapped on at the end. So I guess I'm glad the concept got established, but I have almost zero pride in the execution (of the story telling).


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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:11 AM

I just want confirmation that Black Convoy/Scourge could easily whip SG Optimus' skidplate.

Also, I am SO thankful for Shattered Glass (and Walky, of course) for bringing an official Batbot into reality and a part of my collection.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:18 AM

I always pictured it that SG Optimus was still a little more librarian than fighter, so a one-on-one engagement would probably result in Scourge being the winner.

 

But I'm not sure SG Optimus would ever even get into such a fight; he'd probably put machinations in motion so that he could try to eliminate Scourge without ever meeting him on a battlefield.



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 07:44 AM

I like how SG Starscream can hop on one leg in leg mode.

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:31 AM

How else would he do it...?



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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

Did we ever get to see SG Rodimus become Rodimus Prime? Which mold was used for that, if so?

 

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Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:51 AM

I remember being disappointed by SG Drift not being a stereotypical anime fan.

Also what Spacewarp said. It was fun as its own side thing. Once it became A BATTLE BEYOND GOOD, BEYOND EVIL, BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION I just checked out.

That being said...I dug the "ending" that paid homage to TFTM. Crazy SG Optimus becoming wise and enlightened Nova was interesting, and the ending was, for the most part, a nice way to wrap it all up.
I just didn't care for all the universe hoping and EPIC MULTIUNIVERSAL SINGULARITY exposition/the Shroud stuff that it took to get there.

Did we ever get to see SG Rodimus become Rodimus Prime? Which mold was used for that, if so?
 
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I don't think he changed bodies in the fiction. He just started calling himself "Rodimus Prime."

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