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@  wonko the sane? : (14 November 2019 - 07:38 AM)

There actually are a good number of clinics around here: but the walk ins require an appointment (what?) and are only done once a week. IF you can get an appointment, you see a doctor usually within 40 minutes, but good luck getting the appointment.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

Depending on the day.

@  Nevermore : (14 November 2019 - 03:35 AM)

We have family doctors (called "house doctors") with regular office hours where you may need an hour or two of waiting time.

@  TM2-Megatron : (14 November 2019 - 12:50 AM)

Two weeks? That seems a little long; are there not a lot of walk-in clinics around you?

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 07:01 PM)

Does germany make it quick and easy to see a doctor too? Cause an emergency doctor visit can take two weeks out here, and an emergency ROOM visit can take 18-24 hours.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:43 PM)

(Good thing is, under German law, if you call in sick during your vacation and see a doctor immediately, you get to keep your vacation days.)

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:42 PM)

Too bad. My plans wee to do two more overtime hours before having my last day of vacation for the year on Friday. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (13 November 2019 - 06:41 PM)

So I'm currently on medical leave for a particularly stupid reason: Burned my back with a hot-water bag while sleeping last night. Though the doctor said I'm hardly the first person to have this happen to them.

@  Patch : (13 November 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Just a particularly odious example of the 90s era of depicting transgender women as either the subject of crude humor, or "Jerry Springer" material.

@  Ashley : (13 November 2019 - 04:55 PM)

I think Ace Ventura legit contributed to me spending years in self denial. I will never be ok with Jim Carrey.

@  Benbot : (13 November 2019 - 01:22 PM)

I thought he since changed his tune.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (13 November 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Jim Carry Paladin?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 November 2019 - 12:22 PM)

Don't doubt what he can do. Sonic the Hedgehog!

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 11:51 AM)

not giving a dime to a transphobic antivaxxer.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 November 2019 - 11:25 AM)

It'll be a terrible movie if jim carrey phones it in. Otherwise it should be decent.

@  Paladin : (13 November 2019 - 10:45 AM)

sonics' still gonna be a terrible movie but at least they whined loud enough to make him look passable for a 2-minute trailer. "yay."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:37 AM)

But of course to annoying people there's no such thing as different decisions made for different reasons, there is only "I like it so it's right" and "I don't like it so it's wrong."

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:35 AM)

Even if we pretend it's objective truth that they were both bad, then they were bad in very different ways.

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 November 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Sonic's previous movie design looked genuinely bad. The Transformers '07 designs just looked insufficiently like what certain loud and obnoxious parts of the fandom think Transformers are required to always look like.

@  Otaku : (13 November 2019 - 08:50 AM)

Um... Purple Monkey Dishwasher?

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.


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#61 Copper Bezel

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:13 PM

It'd be interesting but not wholly consistent, since presumably he'd heal eventually even in alt mode.
Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:16 PM

/unexpectedcena



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:21 PM

There was discussion happening in two separate topics, so I've merged it all back into the existing Bee Movie news thread.

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:36 PM

Bumblebee not being a Camaro makes me feel... weirdly less interested in this.

Him being a VW Bug just seems kinda out of character for Movie Bee, I dunno.

Edited by unitremover, 31 July 2017 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 03:38 PM

will you shut up now, purists?!?!

Depends. Will you get your head out of you-know-where and realize they're selling you trash?
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:01 PM

Yeah, nothing says "head up one's own ass" than looking at the breadth of news items that indicate a course-change for this movie that could result in a far better product and thinking "hey, this may change things towards a far more positive outcome and better product", rather than steadfastly sticking to screaming about bayformers suxxorrs and declaring "garbage" this early.

 

 

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:07 PM

I'm kind of curious if they're going to have Bumblebee keep his normal proportions and just cheat the scale like they did with Evasion Optimus, or redesign him so that he's a squat little Skids/Mudflap-style bot.

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Posted 31 July 2017 - 04:20 PM

I guess they must have watched this, then!

 

 


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:07 PM

something something fruity pebbles



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:15 PM

something something fruity pebbles

This news makes me sad that The Rock turned down the lead in AoE.

 



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:18 PM

I'm kind of curious if they're going to have Bumblebee keep his normal proportions and just cheat the scale like they did with Evasion Optimus, or redesign him so that he's a squat little Skids/Mudflap-style bot.

 

Along the same train of thought, I'm curious if they'll do like Evasion Optimus and have Bee's vehicle parts in robot mode line up close-enough-if-you-squint to his G1 counterpart with his major parts landing approximately in the same place (IE: roof=chest, hood=feet) or shuffle them around a bit more (a la E.J. Su's IDW design) to bring his physique/silhouette closer to in the other films.



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:24 PM

Yeah, we have technically seen him before and after this movie, so I wonder if they'll change some of the essential pieces of his design, like his face



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:25 PM

John Cena?  In a Transformers movie?  Can somebody say "cash cow"?



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:26 PM

John Cena?  In a Transformers movie?  Can somebody say "cash cow"?

 

We're talking about the same franchise, right? The one where every piece of media has existed to sell toys since 1984?


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 09:58 PM

I can not wait.

Let's go Cena. Cena...trucks? No, that doesn't work.
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Posted 31 July 2017 - 11:06 PM

A Bumblebee that's not a muscle car, hooray!

 

 

 

John Cena?  In a Transformers movie?  Can somebody say "cash cow"?

 

We're talking about the same franchise, right? The one where every piece of media has existed to sell toys since 1984?

 

 

I'm reminded of a comment Lindsey Ellis made about The Last Knight, where literally every moment in the film was made to sell something and not because of any actual creative desire.



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Posted 31 July 2017 - 11:33 PM

I honestly don't expect the Volkswagen thing to stick, I think it'll just be a replay of Evasion Optimus (that is, much less exposure than the beater form for 2007 Bee). It does make that supposed set image of the yellow vintage Chevy seem a bit less likely, though. I was kinda expecting him to switch up to the Camaro, too, but who knows, maybe this is just how much they intend to separate themselves from the Bay series. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 31 July 2017 - 11:38 PM

I'll be interested to see a VW Bumblebee who doesn't turn into the boxy G1 model.

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 01:06 AM

Cena casting does little to convince me. Basically confirms this will be about the humans yet again and so calling it "the Bumblebee movie' is a bit of a lie.

Couldn't have just gone with relative unknowns like Star Wars often does and made the robots characters?

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Posted 01 August 2017 - 01:18 AM

Of COURSE it'll be about the humans, and as part of that the human relationship with the Transformers. Everything that's been said about Steinfeld and Bee at the center of this reflects that. And Cena is like the first significantly NON-relative unknown (the others are getting their start in Hollywood, but not the same name recall clearly), to me at least.

 

Nothing about this precludes them "making the robots characters". 



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