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@  Sabrblade : (23 October 2018 - 11:27 AM)

One could argue that Optimus Prime has, in recent years, been performed less like a person and more like a computer. :p

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 11:23 AM)

The beautiful thing about the franchise is that it's big enough to endure. You can walk away for a while and come back later to see if you like whats new.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:06 AM)

But that's one of my many reasons to be tremendously bored with the state of TF fiction. (Others include: hey, let's have the Transformers actually transform sometimes.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:04 AM)

I'm saying, there are levels. The closest anyone comes is (occasionally) allowing Shockwave to be an actual robot. I would love to see a story where the only reason they've been fighting this long is because they are computers. Once a level of humanity is introduced, they actually stop fighting (only to have the inevitability of back-sliding into fighting again because of that same humanity.)

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 11:00 AM)

I entirely understand the necessity of some level of anthropomorphism. However, essentially turning them all into really tall metallic humans is not only entirely without purpose, it's boring as heck.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 10:54 AM)

But machine life has to be anthropomorphized, otherwise we don't see the life, just the machine.

@  EShadowP : (23 October 2018 - 10:04 AM)

Maybe we just need writers with better imaginations. Perhaps over-humanizing the Transformers is the longest running problem with every TF fiction ever. Just perhaps.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 09:33 AM)

Yeah, but they are machines. Couldn't they just adjust their own memories for the lifespan? Do we even know how they store memories in the first place?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:12 AM)

Now, I'm not saying that Cybertronians ought to have human life-spans, just that "millions of years" is too long.  Though I suppose it makes the "Oh, I suddenly remembered [plot point]!" moments credible because where do you store all the memories in an easily accessed form?  If you do remember even most things clearly... might that not be maddening?

@  Otaku : (23 October 2018 - 09:09 AM)

The "millions of years old" thing is probably the most alien aspect of Cybertronians.  It pushes my suspension of disbelief for anything remotely human to live that long and still be sane, or maybe even functional.  I think of how aging has affected my own view and sure, some of it is biological maturation, but a lot of it is experience.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 October 2018 - 07:11 AM)

But they don't really have a childhood either. They go online and all maturation is literally job experience.

@  Shrug : (23 October 2018 - 06:47 AM)

Well, they're practically immortal. That kind of lifespan doesn't exactly push growing up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 October 2018 - 04:00 AM)

They can't handle physical scale, did you think temporal scale would fare any better?

@  Pennpenn : (23 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

Maybe it's that they're functionally intelligent, but don't ever really mature much psychologically. That and presumably the original writers gave as much of a shit about deep time as they did about space geometry.

@  Whirl Maximus : (23 October 2018 - 02:03 AM)

I'm mixed about the millions of years thing, it's somewhat at odds when transformers are humanized as they often are.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 October 2018 - 11:59 PM)

Are any of the Transformers terribly bright, really? This is a spacefaring civilization that's millions of years old that seem to be fighting a perpetual war for no particular reason. Transformers are stupider than humans

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 08:31 PM)

Depends on the machine. Are you recruiting them, or MAKING them?

@  Cybersnark : (22 October 2018 - 08:30 PM)

... And not terribly bright.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 October 2018 - 07:51 PM)

Makes sense for robot soldiers: you would want something fast, low profile, but lots of power.

@  Waspinator : (22 October 2018 - 06:31 PM)

If we go by the Prime cartoon, sports cars apparently ARE the expendable troop of choice.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 October 2018 - 04:29 PM)

Just fold 'em into a box and slap some wheels on it, they'll figure it out.

@  Pennpenn : (22 October 2018 - 01:57 AM)

Given that by the time we're up to in the story Functionalism had been dead for millions of years and many of the people around were made during and for the war, it's probably more likely that "sports car shaped thing" was an easy to make alt mode for expendable troops.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 09:52 PM)

maybe there's underground demolition derbies too

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 09:25 PM)

Every single sports car was one of those two jobs? Considering how many there seem to be....

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 07:34 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (21 October 2018 - 03:32 PM)

It's mentioned in one issue that Bumblebee was a courier. The only other fast cars I can remember seeing in Functionist times were Blur and a couple of Stunticons, as racers.

@  SG Roadbuster : (21 October 2018 - 12:14 PM)

i figured the sports cars were either racers or couriers.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 12:13 PM)

Upper Class. They're clearly not made for manual labor.

@  Locoman : (21 October 2018 - 12:09 PM)

Functionism only really makes sense for certain alternate modes like mining or construction equipment; where do things like sports cars fit in?

@  Xellos : (21 October 2018 - 11:51 AM)

At least in the movies they can switch to a (similar) alt mode at will, it seems. Especially if they want to sell more toys per movie.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 October 2018 - 10:44 AM)

They are a race of adaptive machines. Maybe they were expected to change themselves to fit the role?

@  RichardT1977 : (21 October 2018 - 10:06 AM)

IDW-verse discrimination still made more sense than the backstory in TF: Exodus, where everyone's caste was assigned seemingly at random with no regard for their aptitudes (altmode or otherwise)

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:55 AM)

Lost Light is good too, so far.

@  MEDdMI : (21 October 2018 - 07:54 AM)

I'm not terribly into Transformers in general, but I did mostly enjoy the More Than Meets The Eye series.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:11 AM)

Which has been in the state constitution since 1946, but was never actually executed according to documents, and is currently not in effect because the German federal constitution, which takes priority over state constitution, has banned the death penalty back in 1949.

@  Nevermore : (21 October 2018 - 05:09 AM)

Huh. So next weekend, when the German state of Hesse will have its state election, there will also be a ballot about changing the state constitution... and one of the proposed changes will be abolishing the death penalty.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 03:44 AM)

I really need to read those comics

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:28 AM)

Up to and including the fact that certain alternate modes could end up being classified as "surplus to requirements" and systematically murdered.

@  Pennpenn : (21 October 2018 - 03:26 AM)

And in IDW comics where it is/was literally a form of apartheid where your alternate mode pretty much dictated how you were treated by society, what jobs you could pursue, pretty much everything.

@  Waspinator : (21 October 2018 - 02:24 AM)

We do get hints of that from time to time in Transformers, with stuff like some jets acting smug towards cars and whatnot.

@  RichardT1977 : (20 October 2018 - 08:10 PM)

"No shotgun of Mine is going to marry a rocket launcher" sounds like something that Targetmasters (or WFC Siege Micromasters) might say...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 08:06 PM)

The characters are actually kinda nice. Sure a bunch of them are from New Jersey, but you get a few aliens too.. But if you do that, you might want to go digital delux verisons.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:38 PM)

My only issue is that the aside from Fox, the looks of the characters are kinda bland. If anything, I'll at least get it on Black Friday, as they almost always have deals on the toys to life stuff.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 October 2018 - 06:07 PM)

Well I can tell you, if you are going physical version because you want the toys. The Switch version has the best Ship mount as you just slide the joycons into it. The PS4 ship mount is wired. The game itself is very good in my opionion. In some ways it starts to turn into an RTS without being an RTS. You've got to start focus on keeping your planets from being taken back over. It has a LOT to do. It does have some repitive missions, because well, trying to let you level up all pilots and ships and such. The switch version -ALSO- has starfox only missions and the characters are incorporated into the story.

@  Xellos : (20 October 2018 - 06:03 PM)

How is Starlink anyways? Been thinking of getting the Switch version for StarFox, which is quite unusal for me, as I almost always pick the PS4 versions (favorite controller and I already have so many Trophys on it).

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:42 PM)

No shotgun of mine is going to marry a rocket launcher!

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 October 2018 - 05:22 PM)

Should they be allowed to marry outside of their own caliber?

@  Waspinator : (20 October 2018 - 05:18 PM)

I'm conflicted on the subject of marriage rights for shotguns.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:24 PM)

You say, "Damn it, what do you think this is, a shotgun wedding?"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 October 2018 - 03:23 PM)

What do you do if someone wants to bring their concealed-carry to your American wedding?


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#4281 LiamA

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Posted 26 December 2017 - 02:51 PM

I was at a Toys R' Us today and the Beachcombers and a Windcharger all had the same cards.  Makes me wonder how often that will happen



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Posted 26 December 2017 - 03:42 PM

Has anyone else pre-ordered the voyagers from the chosen prime and has anyone been billed for them yet? 


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Posted 26 December 2017 - 05:34 PM

Dreadwind has a port on his wrist in the perfect spot to turn his combiner fist into a Hulk Hand. Or Hellboy's Right Hand of Doom, since he only comes with one.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 09:55 AM

Dreadwind has a port on his wrist in the perfect spot to turn his combiner fist into a Hulk Hand. Or Hellboy's Right Hand of Doom, since he only comes with one.

Given how it attaches there, I pretend mine is an oversized Vega-esque claw. :D

 

Also, I'm liking Rodimus so far, but I do wonder why his designer/s decided to use attachment points where one section has to plug into another at odd, feels-like-I'm-breaking-something angles. :doh In particular are the forearms when they slot into the top for trailer mode, the base robot's legs into the spoiler section for car mode, and the car and trailer pipes attaching to the side panels of the Winnebago mode.


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:10 PM

Folding the fingers over to cover his real hand really accentuates how glove-like it is, compared to Rook just sticking the combiner hand at the end of his arm.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 01:41 PM

I had written off this Optimus because he's so at odds with what I usually like in Transformers, but he's starting to appeal to me for just that reason. When I first got G1 Optimus Prime, he was a guy made out of truck. Around this time I also got Stacks, who appealed to me because he makes better use of truck. Subsequent toys that went out of their way to hide truck, like MP-1, annoyed me; let him be truck. And now here's this toy that's basically the same truck, but it turns into a robot that's zero truck, and yet he combines with his trailer that's been severely compromised just so the robot mode can look like it's made of the same truck despite not using truck. It's taken the whole thing to such an absurd extreme that all I can do is be impressed by it. Also both robot modes look really nice, and I don't see anything as fiddly as MP-1's back panels.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 02:46 PM

saw a couple video reviews of rodimus, and im warming up to it a bit. it still has a mess of problems i dont like, but its in the "maybe" pile now. plus my collection needs a rodimus...


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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:43 PM

Oh man, I hope I'm lucky enough to find Rodimus at TRU when I go out later.

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Posted 27 December 2017 - 03:44 PM

Dreadwind has a port on his wrist in the perfect spot to turn his combiner fist into a Hulk Hand. Or Hellboy's Right Hand of Doom, since he only comes with one.

 

I was thinking of it more as a Warhammer 40K style Powerfist.



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Posted 27 December 2017 - 04:23 PM

Oh man, I hope I'm lucky enough to find Rodimus at TRU when I go out later.

--LBD "Nytetrayn"

 
i hope so too. dont want to have to send you a THIRD hot rod :p
 
actually, if you do find one, YOU need to send one to ME this time lol

Edited by Telly, 28 December 2017 - 12:56 AM.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:03 AM

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:32 AM

DAMMIT Hasbro. CROSS SELLS. It does you very little good to sell tiny combiners if you won't even tell anyone that they're tiny combiners! = O


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:37 AM

Man that is one ugly Tailgate

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:46 AM

VECTOR TAILGATE: Travels 4 billion years into the past to beat the jive out of Fangry  :D



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Posted 28 December 2017 - 03:52 AM

Oh, Battleslash's instructions with Battletrap were also posted.

 

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Edit: Someone on Facebook shared me a photo!

 

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Eeeeee he's perfect and I must have him XD

 

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Edited by Copper Bezel, 28 December 2017 - 03:59 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:16 AM

My desire that'll never happen: A Flywheels/Skytread that is TR compatible. I mean of course it'd have to have its own head for marketing reasons; but do like Nitro Zeus and have that head removable so that TR Skytread can join in on the combination. 


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:40 AM


Ok now that is a sweet "thinking out of the box" pair of toys that really makes me want a matching Flywheels.

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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:42 AM

My unrealistic hope is for Squawkbox reworked into this concept with vehicle modes instead of cassettes. My slightly more realistic hope, though it would make me slightly sad, is for Squawkbox reworked into this concept with robot modes instead of cassettes. Either one would avoid skytreading much of the same ground as Battletrap, while still being two little dorks, one aerial and one land-based, who combine into a normal-sized guy. 

 

But they're probably just doing Flywheels if anything. = /


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:49 AM

Odd thought on Flywheels/Skytread and how they can think ahead with remolding... if there is a way to remold it so that the Tank is the top half... they could probably make a half decent Slamdance...


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Posted 28 December 2017 - 04:58 AM

Seems plausible - at the very least, it's a built-in Autobot redeco even if it requires swapping the colors in one mode or the other. Presumably the combined robot. 

 

This amuses me. 

 

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Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 




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