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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#961 Johnny Here

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 06:56 PM

Just saw the Optimus Primal concept art.

Glad he wasnt in the movie. Murder murder kill kill goes against everyyhing he stands for.

Hes an EXPLORER. And not of guts.

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 07:16 PM

"We have 4 million years to wipe you off the walls, Megatron. I might risk it."
-original Optimus Primal

 

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 07:34 PM

More concept art.

 

World War II Hot Rod

 

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Guardian Knight

 

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Unused snake Transformer

 

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Posted 02 August 2017 - 07:40 PM

Why are the best parts of these movies never used
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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:01 PM

Because that thing belongs in G.I. Joe.


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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:57 PM

The Guardian Knight looks awesome. Doesn't look like it transforms in any capacity, but it is aesthetically pleasing. :)
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Posted 02 August 2017 - 08:59 PM

"We have 4 million years to wipe you off the walls, Megatron. I might risk it."
-original Optimus Primal

Yes Primal is known for his ruthless and unprovoked violence towards cliche sci-fi tropes.

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Edited by Copper Bezel, 02 August 2017 - 08:59 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 02 August 2017 - 09:03 PM

A snake? With that and the Optimus Primal art, it feels like we came close to live-action Beast Wars where everyone is a giant mechanical animal.


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Posted 02 August 2017 - 09:24 PM

Well, we actually more or less know that an earlier version of the Knights associated them with beasts, since the Dinobots were themselves an earlier version of TLK's Knights they didn't bother to retcon. Perhaps in some concept they had individual beast forms instead of a combined dragon form. That could even explain Primal's visual connection to Prime. The snake is larger than the ape but not awkwardly so, I think they'd play well together on screen. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 02 August 2017 - 09:50 PM

It's a little odd how the snake there is just a snake and not a weird alien impression of one. We've had nightmare cyclops kitties and zombie skeletalized dinosaurs and the Giant Claw... but this one's just a big ol' metal sidewinder, more accurate than your typical cartoon snake even (which is a little unusual since real snakes are kinda adorable).

 

It really makes me wish we'd get an art book for these films, both to see other lost little gems like this and hopefully to get an explanation as to what the hell was even going on with these things.



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Posted 02 August 2017 - 10:17 PM

Yeah, it's jarringly organic-looking. 

 

And am I remembering correctly that the Dinobots are the first movieverse Transformers (not counting comics or whatever) with beast modes and robot modes? Pretty much everyone we'd seen up to that point with a "beast mode", that was their robot mode. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 12:55 PM

Yeah, it's jarringly organic-looking. 

 

And am I remembering correctly that the Dinobots are the first movieverse Transformers (not counting comics or whatever) with beast modes and robot modes? Pretty much everyone we'd seen up to that point with a "beast mode", that was their robot mode. 

 

The only hypothetical exception is ROTF Insecticon, but his robot more was toy-only, he wasn't shown to transform in the film.



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Posted 03 August 2017 - 01:41 PM

 

Yeah, it's jarringly organic-looking. 

 

And am I remembering correctly that the Dinobots are the first movieverse Transformers (not counting comics or whatever) with beast modes and robot modes? Pretty much everyone we'd seen up to that point with a "beast mode", that was their robot mode. 

 

The only hypothetical exception is ROTF Insecticon, but his robot more was toy-only, he wasn't shown to transform in the film.

 

If we're including hypotheticals, there's Scorponok, who never transformed to his toys' robot mode in the film.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 01:45 PM

 

 

Yeah, it's jarringly organic-looking. 

 

And am I remembering correctly that the Dinobots are the first movieverse Transformers (not counting comics or whatever) with beast modes and robot modes? Pretty much everyone we'd seen up to that point with a "beast mode", that was their robot mode. 

 

The only hypothetical exception is ROTF Insecticon, but his robot more was toy-only, he wasn't shown to transform in the film.

 

I we're including hypotheticals, there's Scorponok, who never transformed to his toys' robot mode in the film.

 

I stand corrected!



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Posted 04 August 2017 - 05:05 AM

Yeah, I just meant out of the films themselves. Should have been clearer on that. Scorponok's alt mode per the movie appears to be "some guts out of a helicopter".


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 04 August 2017 - 05:25 AM

Also I would not classify scorpion thinng standing up as a robot mode

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 06:16 PM

https://www.amazon.c...ansformersmovie

 

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:04 PM

So who wants to confess they're buying it?
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Posted 12 August 2017 - 07:25 PM

Pffffft hahahaha
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