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@  Kalidor : (24 February 2021 - 01:49 PM)

It just depends on what it is. It is preferable to take it to P&R though. But sometimes current news as it's happening is less restrictive.

@  fourteenwings : (24 February 2021 - 12:18 AM)

Huh, good point (x3)

@  ▲ndrusi : (23 February 2021 - 11:46 AM)

Yeah. 1. People treat it like Twitter. 2. There's no "take it to P&R" since there's no P&R for the Shoutbox. 3. There's similarly no way to avoid either subjects or people in the Shoutbox since there's no division and it doesn't respect the ignore function, so people end up engaging when they normally wouldn't.

@  fourteenwings : (23 February 2021 - 10:56 AM)

Is there something about the Shoutbox that just means we get politics taking over the thing at least once a week?

@  wonko the sane? : (23 February 2021 - 08:26 AM)

At least your government is willing to talk about the collapsing medicare system. In quebec, their ignoring it in favour of talking about language again! Oh, and unconstitutionally denying access to eduction.

@  Shockwave 75 : (23 February 2021 - 07:52 AM)

At least here in my home province of Ontario we have a conservative gov't who doesn't want to cuz $$$$, but the argument is that they'll end up paying in medical care anyways for those sick people so why not?

@  Shockwave 75 : (23 February 2021 - 07:51 AM)

We have paid sick leave here in Canada too, but it's not very much and not everyone has it. So we're trying to get the gov't to extend it, and give it to everyone.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:23 AM)

The only reason people still go to work despite being sick is because they feel emotionally obliged to serve their employer.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:20 AM)

Some people abuse the system by somehow getting sick with a different plague every five weeks.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:20 AM)

Those six weeks are out of the employer's pocket by legal mandate. If you're still sick after those six weeks, the health insurance company takes over the payment.

@  Nevermore : (23 February 2021 - 02:19 AM)

That's the good thing in Germany - we have legally mandated paid sick days. Six weeks (!) for a single cause (consecutive or recurring, as long as it's the same cause; reinfections long after the fact don't count), Everytime the employee gets sick with a new cause, another six weeks start.

@  tigerhawk : (22 February 2021 - 04:48 PM)

That's how my family got sick, my brothers a teacher, he has a class for expelled students, they gave full attendance these past few lockdowns out of sheer boredom, they can turn in sick and break isolation and he nor the other staff, who also got sick, couldn't do anything about it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2021 - 03:03 PM)

Yeah, pretty sure the only reason people don't stay home when they're sick is that the vast majority of society lives paycheque to paycheque, and they can't afford even one missed day of work.

@  -LittleAutob... : (22 February 2021 - 11:27 AM)

That's unfortunate... I know masks can be annoying, but I think not being able to breath comfortably for a while is better than actually having the virus and not being able to breath at all. bUt Oh, pEoPLe dOn'T bELiVe ThE dAmN vIrUs Is rEaL

@  wonko the sane? : (22 February 2021 - 08:28 AM)

Hahahaha! Oh, you're serious. Yeah, no one is going to do that. Far too many are in positions where they simply cannot afford the time off, and most of the rest are the kind who won't wear the mask in a global pandemic, never mind when they alone have the sniffles.

@  Shockwave 75 : (22 February 2021 - 08:20 AM)

I just hope a take-away from this will be for people to stay home when they're sick, and if they have to go out, wear a mask so as not to spread their illness.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2021 - 08:25 PM)

I think it's mostly the masking that's kept the flu season down so much, and that's unlikely to be kept up for that long. I'm sure there'll be some people who keep wearing masks for years after this, but I suspect a larger number are anticipating people able to toss them once vaccinations are complete.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2021 - 05:27 PM)

Same in canada. Doctors report it to be basically non-existant. I kinda hope they keep some stuff up after everyone is vaccinated. Like hand sanitizer at store entrances, and actually cleaning the shopping carts.

@  tigerhawk : (21 February 2021 - 05:17 PM)

On the plus side cold and flu cases are down 80% this winter thanks to lockdowns, or at least that's the case in the UK.

@  Hg Dragon : (21 February 2021 - 04:37 PM)

This is quite possibly the most miserable i have ever felt.

@  Hg Dragon : (21 February 2021 - 04:37 PM)

i'll be nice and not bypass the cupcake monkey, but COVID can *bleep* itself in the *bleeping* *bleeper* with a *bleeping* cactus.

@  tigerhawk : (21 February 2021 - 02:39 AM)

He only appeared the once in the US comics and got one follow up in the UK comic. He never suffered badass decay like Omega Supreme and the combiners.

@  Rycochet : (19 February 2021 - 05:15 PM)

Trypticon's debut issues in the marvel comic were the absolute best 'To sell a toy' comics of the book.

@  tigerhawk : (19 February 2021 - 03:04 AM)

Then the audience goes "This was a stealth Transformers film wannit!"

@  tigerhawk : (19 February 2021 - 03:03 AM)

Godzilla vs Trypticon, co written by Christina Hobson and Max Borenstein.

@  Bass X0 : (19 February 2021 - 01:36 AM)

I now want G1 Grimlock to transform into Mecha Godzilla.

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2021 - 04:23 PM)

I preferred Rush when Midway made it.

@  Bass X0 : (17 February 2021 - 03:13 PM)

The best Rush comes from Canada.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 February 2021 - 02:54 PM)

In *other* wonderful and fantastic news, guess whose Kingdom Cheetor and Paleotrex FINALLY arrived today?

@  Bass X0 : (16 February 2021 - 03:07 PM)

yeah, its a good show. watch as much as you can.

@  tigerhawk : (16 February 2021 - 04:58 AM)

Goodnight Sweethearts turned out to be a gem, I only knew Nicholas Lyndhurst in Only Fools and Horses but never saw this show before.

@  Bass X0 : (15 February 2021 - 04:07 PM)

Then we got Ultra Magnus, Fortress Maximus, Dai Atlas, Megatron, Galvatron, Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp and Banzai-Tron in Alternity...

@  Sabrblade : (15 February 2021 - 12:04 PM)

Heh, that new Binaltech comic that Ichikawa wrote for one of the Japanese Generations books even had the other Dinobots make fun of Grimlock for his "Autobot Car" body.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 February 2021 - 12:03 PM)

They got that rescue bot grimlock that turns into a motorcycle. That's... pretty neat...

@  Otaku : (15 February 2021 - 11:35 AM)

Just to make Grimlock feel more "wrong", they even highlight how his character just seems ill-suited for a sports car alternate mode in his own backstory.  Hindsight is 20/20, so I now wish they'd made a T-rex that transformed into a sportscar.  Still probably would have been as much or more of a pain to transform, but at least it'd feel more like Grimlock. :D

@  Rycochet : (13 February 2021 - 04:39 PM)

Some Alternators were fine, then you have Grimlock/Wheeljack, with three transformers worth of fiddly and a giant buttflap.

@  Telly : (13 February 2021 - 01:49 AM)

thats the main reason i got rid of my alternators. too much of a pain to transform

@  Stepwise : (13 February 2021 - 12:13 AM)

Didn't use a hammer, but feeling a little less sentimental.

@  Stepwise : (13 February 2021 - 12:12 AM)

(The video I found to get some hints had alcohol and a hammer, and by the time I was done, I understood why.)

@  Stepwise : (13 February 2021 - 12:11 AM)

I posted something about feeling all sentimental when I transformed alternators Smokescreen a few days ago...and tonight I tried transforming Grimlock.

@  Stepwise : (13 February 2021 - 12:10 AM)

they don't taste great.

@  Stepwise : (13 February 2021 - 12:10 AM)

I'm eating my words...

@  Kaon : (12 February 2021 - 01:48 AM)

How is everyone tonight

@  Telly : (11 February 2021 - 06:31 PM)

even intergalactic despots need some down time

@  wonko the sane? : (11 February 2021 - 05:07 PM)

Then he went and hid in a hot tub for a few months...

@  Bass X0 : (11 February 2021 - 04:52 PM)

Galvatron: "You'll do my proxy bidding, or taste my wrath!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 February 2021 - 02:13 PM)

There's kind of a range there.

@  Rycochet : (11 February 2021 - 11:41 AM)

IDW Autobot evil.

@  tigerhawk : (11 February 2021 - 07:47 AM)

IDW Overlord evil or Sunbow Megatron evil.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 February 2021 - 07:34 AM)

Deceptively or Decepticonly?


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#41 Chris McFeely

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

Another great episode.

 

How many episodes are you planning to make, Chris?

 

No set limit! Like I said I've got the "big four" this month, but there'll always be something to talk about, I reckon! 



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:43 AM

It'd be cool later on to do an ep about personal canons (since I've noticed they tend to be bigger in the Transformers fandom than in others), reaching back to these eps to talk about how some fans can repurpose these name reuses into new (or obscure fan-favourite) characters (since Bumblebee, Bumblebee, and Bumblebee don't really have much in common, while Bumper and Tigertrack have vanished into obscurity).

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:59 AM

 

Another great episode.

 

How many episodes are you planning to make, Chris?

 

No set limit! Like I said I've got the "big four" this month, but there'll always be something to talk about, I reckon! 

 

Awesome! I wasn't sure if you had planned this to be a mini-series or an ongoing project. Either way, this is great stuff. :thumbsup


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

Another great episode.
 
Minor nitpicking by a Beast Wars fan: That picture is of Santon, who is officially a separate character from BW Ironhide (and yes, there is a difference in their fictional designs). Meanwhile, BW Ironhide is G1 Ironhide in a new body, but only through retcons. All I'm saying is that Ironhide is a bigger mess to sort out than the video lets on.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:09 PM


Great job again Chris. It's wonderful to have these out there for new fans. Thanks for doing all the work that goes into them and producing them at such a high level.

-ZacWilliam. I feel like the Wiki should have a little "For Beginners" box on the front page that links to this series. Just to help those coming in to everything for the first time get a good foundation.
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#46 Copper Bezel

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:13 AM

All I'm saying is that [Transformers] is a bigger mess to sort out than the video lets on.

You have to stop somewhere, particularly with woefully obscure characters like this. I figure as long as the simple description given is technically correct and doesn't do anything to confuse the bigger picture, it's probably fine. No one for whom this video is primarily intended needs to know, right at that moment, that there are two or three different characters represented by that particular image. Ironhide came in a set with G1 names and no story and then somebody said later on that, yeah, he's probably the same guy, while he was released in slightly different colors in Japan as a different dude.

 

But to say that BW Ironhide is the same guy as the original character is both technically accurate now and also passes the squint test, since in this context we don't care about the toy mold, only that Hasbro decided to release a new Ironhide in the same continuity as the original and say it was the same guy, which they did.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 11 June 2017 - 12:14 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:26 AM

Beast Wars Ironhide was introduced into a line where Scorponok, Inferno, and other classic names were assigned to unrelated characters, with no bio and no obvious similarity to G1 Ironhide other than them both having red. The toy probably wasn't designed with the intent of being the same guy.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:34 AM

Beast Wars Ironhide was also sold in a box with guys named Prowl and Silverbolt.

Edited by Copper Bezel, 11 June 2017 - 12:34 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 04:19 AM

 

I like it!

Any ideas of what future episodes will entail?

 

Yup! My theme for this month of weekly episodes is "Who, What, Where, and How." Episode #1 is HOW does the world of TF work. Episode #2 is WHO - all about characters, the story behind name re-use and the evolution of "legacy" characters. #3 is WHAT  - what is a Transformer? A biology ep! And #4 is WHERE - where did they come from? Creation stories from atechnogenesis to Quintessons to Primus!

 

 

https://youtu.be/5drjr9PmTMA?t=2m10s

 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:38 AM

I think that ticks all the biggest boxes for the debut month, and after that - on what'll likely not be a weekly schedule - it'll get more spotlight-y, with episodes dedicated to particular concepts (like the Matrix, Energon, Spacebridges, the Thirteen, the multiverse/singularities),

 

Speaking of singularities, fellow Allsparker Verity Carlo recently found a previously-undiscovered Ask Vector Prime answer in the Complete AllSpark Almanac that features a singularity-related question:

 

 

Q: Optimus Prime is sometimes one of the Thirteen, does this make him a multiversal singularity?

 

A: In a sense, yes. Most Universes have an Optimus Prime, and they tend towards exemplifying the best expressions of Autobot ideals. Megatron, Starscream, Grimlock, Shockwave, Bumblebee and the like could be similarly contextualized; as archetypes they are transcribed universally.

 

Really glad this one wasn't found until after the dissolution of the singularity concept.

 

I mention it here in case you'd need it to cite as one more official source of info for if/when you get to making a singularity-related episode. :thumbsup


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#51 Copper Bezel

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:57 AM

Really glad this one wasn't found until after the dissolution of the singularity concept.

I dunno, I kinda like that it presciently reduces the MS concept to "brand-central characters tend to look sorta like other versions of themselves." Like, really take it seriously, and it's almost as good as the Shrouding at breaking the whole thing.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:03 AM

I think any talk at length about singularities and such kind of takes a few steps above a series called The Basics.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:07 AM

It's not really CALLING them singularities-they're definitely not, no fiction ever would even portray them as such-all it's saying is that the quantum harmonic resonance around their identities is so strong, that most incarnations of them are virtually identical.

 

But then I'm sure every facebook poster would take it literally and not understand because they like to poke and proddle.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:18 AM

An episode about the long running fandom memes could be fun.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:00 AM

It's not really CALLING them singularities

It certainly is, "in a sense"!

 

the quantum harmonic resonance around their identities is so strong

Fun fact: "quantum" is not sciencese for "a wizard did it". I'm sure that phrase has been used canonically somewhere to refer to the thing that you're referring to, but I'm also pretty sure that the thing you're referring to is also called "branding".

 

But then I'm sure every facebook poster would take it literally and not understand because they like to poke and proddle.

Given AVP was a Facebook thing, the thing you're describing is literally fan reaction by the target audience. It's not a side effect at that point, it is the efficacy, good or ill.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

Well, yes, that is the real world term for it.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:23 AM

I think any talk at length about singularities and such kind of takes a few steps above a series called The Basics.

I could see eventually coming around to almost anything that has had a large effect on a number of stories or continuities such that it's likely to be referenced in a lot of other The Basics videos. The question then would be whether or not it was ever a serious enough consideration to have influenced actual decisions made by Hasbro about story, continuity, and characters in major lines - which I think would be a hard argument to make. I imagine it'd probably come up if Chris does a video on Club fiction, though, in the same way that the Continuity video notes the special framing of the Aligned family.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:40 AM

Informatively:

 

http://tfwiki.net/wi...monic_Resonance


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

Anyway.
It bugged me that you referred to Shockblast as "Shockwave", Chris. Like, I get why, but..

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

Ah yes, exactly the sort of thing I want to be showing someone who's new to the brand.


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