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@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:05 PM)

"Someone" being me. No mystery to it, I used to draw a lot during class when I was in high school. I came up with lesbian ninjas, which were a specialized team of assassins with amazing hair and impeccable style. I scanned some of my drawings and mentioned them a few times on the ezboard 17 years ago, and people seemed to like the idea.

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Thanks in any case!

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Oh, wow. That is ages ago. 

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:03 PM)

ages ago meaning when the spark was still on ezboard

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:02 PM)

i think maybe it was part of a title of a movie someone posted ages ago and the "lesbian ninja" part stood out and people just latched on to it. please note this is possibly totally and completely wrong cause my memory is terrible anymore

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I don't think it's a fandom thing, I think it's an Allspark thing. Or that's been my perception. Mayhem has some lesbian ninja regulars now but I think the reference is much older. = ] 

@  Robowang : (15 November 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Who knows. I always thought it was stupid.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

What is this fandom's deal with lesbian ninjas? Is it some fantheory about Nightbird or something?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 November 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Huh my phone didn't even alert me for some reason. Guess it only does on the Mayhem Discord Hangouts??

@  BlackMax : (14 November 2017 - 09:41 PM)

Telly, you are FIRED as my PR agent. :D

@  Telly : (14 November 2017 - 09:05 PM)

you all dont know what you missed. there was fun. there were games. lesbian ninjas. tang and even a couple human sacrifices.


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#41 Chris McFeely

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

Another great episode.

 

How many episodes are you planning to make, Chris?

 

No set limit! Like I said I've got the "big four" this month, but there'll always be something to talk about, I reckon! 



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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:43 AM

It'd be cool later on to do an ep about personal canons (since I've noticed they tend to be bigger in the Transformers fandom than in others), reaching back to these eps to talk about how some fans can repurpose these name reuses into new (or obscure fan-favourite) characters (since Bumblebee, Bumblebee, and Bumblebee don't really have much in common, while Bumper and Tigertrack have vanished into obscurity).

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:59 AM

 

Another great episode.

 

How many episodes are you planning to make, Chris?

 

No set limit! Like I said I've got the "big four" this month, but there'll always be something to talk about, I reckon! 

 

Awesome! I wasn't sure if you had planned this to be a mini-series or an ongoing project. Either way, this is great stuff. :thumbsup


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 12:24 PM

Another great episode.
 
Minor nitpicking by a Beast Wars fan: That picture is of Santon, who is officially a separate character from BW Ironhide (and yes, there is a difference in their fictional designs). Meanwhile, BW Ironhide is G1 Ironhide in a new body, but only through retcons. All I'm saying is that Ironhide is a bigger mess to sort out than the video lets on.


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Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:09 PM


Great job again Chris. It's wonderful to have these out there for new fans. Thanks for doing all the work that goes into them and producing them at such a high level.

-ZacWilliam. I feel like the Wiki should have a little "For Beginners" box on the front page that links to this series. Just to help those coming in to everything for the first time get a good foundation.
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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:13 AM

All I'm saying is that [Transformers] is a bigger mess to sort out than the video lets on.

You have to stop somewhere, particularly with woefully obscure characters like this. I figure as long as the simple description given is technically correct and doesn't do anything to confuse the bigger picture, it's probably fine. No one for whom this video is primarily intended needs to know, right at that moment, that there are two or three different characters represented by that particular image. Ironhide came in a set with G1 names and no story and then somebody said later on that, yeah, he's probably the same guy, while he was released in slightly different colors in Japan as a different dude.

 

But to say that BW Ironhide is the same guy as the original character is both technically accurate now and also passes the squint test, since in this context we don't care about the toy mold, only that Hasbro decided to release a new Ironhide in the same continuity as the original and say it was the same guy, which they did.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 11 June 2017 - 12:14 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:26 AM

Beast Wars Ironhide was introduced into a line where Scorponok, Inferno, and other classic names were assigned to unrelated characters, with no bio and no obvious similarity to G1 Ironhide other than them both having red. The toy probably wasn't designed with the intent of being the same guy.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:34 AM

Beast Wars Ironhide was also sold in a box with guys named Prowl and Silverbolt.

Edited by Copper Bezel, 11 June 2017 - 12:34 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 04:19 AM

 

I like it!

Any ideas of what future episodes will entail?

 

Yup! My theme for this month of weekly episodes is "Who, What, Where, and How." Episode #1 is HOW does the world of TF work. Episode #2 is WHO - all about characters, the story behind name re-use and the evolution of "legacy" characters. #3 is WHAT  - what is a Transformer? A biology ep! And #4 is WHERE - where did they come from? Creation stories from atechnogenesis to Quintessons to Primus!

 

 

https://youtu.be/5drjr9PmTMA?t=2m10s

 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:38 AM

I think that ticks all the biggest boxes for the debut month, and after that - on what'll likely not be a weekly schedule - it'll get more spotlight-y, with episodes dedicated to particular concepts (like the Matrix, Energon, Spacebridges, the Thirteen, the multiverse/singularities),

 

Speaking of singularities, fellow Allsparker Verity Carlo recently found a previously-undiscovered Ask Vector Prime answer in the Complete AllSpark Almanac that features a singularity-related question:

 

 

Q: Optimus Prime is sometimes one of the Thirteen, does this make him a multiversal singularity?

 

A: In a sense, yes. Most Universes have an Optimus Prime, and they tend towards exemplifying the best expressions of Autobot ideals. Megatron, Starscream, Grimlock, Shockwave, Bumblebee and the like could be similarly contextualized; as archetypes they are transcribed universally.

 

Really glad this one wasn't found until after the dissolution of the singularity concept.

 

I mention it here in case you'd need it to cite as one more official source of info for if/when you get to making a singularity-related episode. :thumbsup


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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#51 Copper Bezel

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:57 AM

Really glad this one wasn't found until after the dissolution of the singularity concept.

I dunno, I kinda like that it presciently reduces the MS concept to "brand-central characters tend to look sorta like other versions of themselves." Like, really take it seriously, and it's almost as good as the Shrouding at breaking the whole thing.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:03 AM

I think any talk at length about singularities and such kind of takes a few steps above a series called The Basics.


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:07 AM

It's not really CALLING them singularities-they're definitely not, no fiction ever would even portray them as such-all it's saying is that the quantum harmonic resonance around their identities is so strong, that most incarnations of them are virtually identical.

 

But then I'm sure every facebook poster would take it literally and not understand because they like to poke and proddle.


 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:18 AM

An episode about the long running fandom memes could be fun.



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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:00 AM

It's not really CALLING them singularities

It certainly is, "in a sense"!

 

the quantum harmonic resonance around their identities is so strong

Fun fact: "quantum" is not sciencese for "a wizard did it". I'm sure that phrase has been used canonically somewhere to refer to the thing that you're referring to, but I'm also pretty sure that the thing you're referring to is also called "branding".

 

But then I'm sure every facebook poster would take it literally and not understand because they like to poke and proddle.

Given AVP was a Facebook thing, the thing you're describing is literally fan reaction by the target audience. It's not a side effect at that point, it is the efficacy, good or ill.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

Well, yes, that is the real world term for it.


 

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:23 AM

I think any talk at length about singularities and such kind of takes a few steps above a series called The Basics.

I could see eventually coming around to almost anything that has had a large effect on a number of stories or continuities such that it's likely to be referenced in a lot of other The Basics videos. The question then would be whether or not it was ever a serious enough consideration to have influenced actual decisions made by Hasbro about story, continuity, and characters in major lines - which I think would be a hard argument to make. I imagine it'd probably come up if Chris does a video on Club fiction, though, in the same way that the Continuity video notes the special framing of the Aligned family.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:40 AM

Informatively:

 

http://tfwiki.net/wi...monic_Resonance


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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

Anyway.
It bugged me that you referred to Shockblast as "Shockwave", Chris. Like, I get why, but..

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Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:46 AM

Ah yes, exactly the sort of thing I want to be showing someone who's new to the brand.


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