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@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 09:34 PM)

What's your favorite cheese? I'm not sure, but it's hard to beat muenster.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:10 PM)

Man I wish IDW could do a season 2.5 with a few writers like Michael Charles Hill or Donald F Glut or Paul Davids involved.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 04:33 PM)

They were looking for Skids, but the animators forgot he existed again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 02:58 PM)

He regrouped with Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, Skyfire and the Protectobots.

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 08:20 AM)

Did he get infected with the rest of the Autobots or did he smartly remain off-planet?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 05:38 AM)

He really just went to the beach for a couple of days, then called it in. Who's gonna follow up on it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:05 AM)

Anyone really believe Cosmos searched far enough for more ingredient for Corrostop?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2019 - 03:48 AM)

Oh, we are pretty good at "forgetting" about that. Insisting on sending people home on their overtime, THEN suddenly rushing to do the "backlog" stuff when it's really overdue.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.


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Posted 26 August 2017 - 05:11 PM

The current series of direct to video movies is mostly based on the comics and is not related to the old DCAU at all.  Some of them take 16-20 issues of a comic and compress them down to 75 minutes of animation.  Unrelated to either is the Unlimited setting, which turned out a few movies and a bunch of toys but seems to have run its course.  And they seem to be trying to make the Batman 66 stuff more than a one-shot.

 

Looks like the only good direct to video DC cartoons these days are the Lego ones.

 

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 08:06 PM

Nope. I don't even think that this is Timmverse either. I think that it is its own thing.


It couldn't be any more blatantly Timmverse. They just don't specifically acknowledge that, so they have an excuse to get around the "You're ruining my childhood!" people.

But, regardless of what they say on the record, in the most practical and reasonable sense, it's pretty much Timmverse, with some deliberate childhood-ruining perversions.

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Posted 26 August 2017 - 10:06 PM

I thought Nightwing was involved with Starfire in this new DCAU (at least that seemed to be the case in Justice League vs Teen Titans)?  So I'm guessing, whatever ambiguity about it the creators have left, this isn't really canon with the main DCAU.

 

You're confused. JL vs Teen Titans is part of the animated new 52 continuity which is distinctly separate from the old DCAU.  Batman Harley is a stand-alone that capitalizes on but is not actually linked to the old DCAU.


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Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:31 AM

Ah, I just figured people were calling these new animated movies (everything since Flashpoint, anyway) the DCAU now.  There's a "DC Universe" boxset coming out soon that contains all of them.



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Posted 30 August 2017 - 01:22 AM

Sorry if this was already posted, but there's a mid-credits and a post-credits scene.

 

Overall, don't spend money on this.  Catch it whenever it arrives free on streaming services.


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Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:00 PM

Sorry if this was already posted, but there's a mid-credits and a post-credits scene.
 
Overall, don't spend money on this.  Catch it whenever it arrives free on streaming services.


I've heard this way too many times to ignore it. I have it on my Netflix DVD queue. It says long wait and it was discounted to $16 at Best Buy. So I was tempted. But then I remember everything said about it and though...hug it. Long wait be damned. I'm waiting. And I'm not really looking forward to it so much the more I hear to be honest.
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Posted 09 September 2017 - 08:47 PM

 

 

I wasn't adverse to doing a DCAU/Timmverse film that could poke fun at itself.  And early on...there were some legitimately good bits...but every good "bit" is crapped on by something that I either rolled my eyes at or just pissed me off...often right together!  FAR too much of this felt like a pure indulgence to Timm and the crew...for their own amusement.  It took itself too seriously for a comedy, yet was too eager to stick in any old bit of comedy it could scrap together.  And much of it hung pretty low on the tree, so to speak.  There was some solid ideas at play in the overall story...but the film itself never seemed sure of what it really wanted to do.

 

But the point I went "Meh" to "Oh for hugs sake" was the henchmen shack.  I was all over the easter eggs and in jokes, regardless the sense it made, even if it spent FAR too much time INDULGING in song sequences.  But then the henchmen obviously ganged up on the heroes...for Batman to hork down a glass of milk (?), DROP HIS GODDAMN UTILITY BELT and smile like a sadistic bastard to beat them up to 60s style exclamations over a damn still shot of the exterior.  And just minutes before we spent several minutes and a fairly elaborate "chase sequence" for Harley to attack a schoolmate that stuck her up.  REALLY?

The film is FULL of shit like this: a solid sequence or set up...flushed down the toilet for cheap gags.

WTF?!

 

 

Feels like a longstanding issue anymore: a creator comes to fame making or reinterpreting classic material in a new and popular way.  Then they ride this success to future projects where they have less and less oversight...and we get crap like this.  

Saw it in the Killing Joke adaption.  In the Star Wars prequels.  IN pretty much anything Frank Miller has produced over the last 20 years.  If it isn't some sort of meme, it should be.



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Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:09 PM

I went and rented it off of Amazon. Admittedly it looks like I had seen the majority of it on someone's YouTube channel save for a couple of scenes . Frankly I enjoyed it. It was an aged up and lengthened Batman TAS episode. Too many call backs to say otherwise. One can consider it non canonical but it was a fun romp to me. Sure the bedroom scene with Harley and Nightwing was there but it wasn't even close to as bad as some have made it out. Sure Dick hesitates for understandable reasons, but you can't tell me he wasn't willing.

And really other than a few fart jokes I had a good time with the flick. Sure it was a bit out of character considering the strong TAS leanings and the ending was just huh?! But it's meant to be more of a comedy than anything else. And with Harley starring why would you expect otherwise?

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Posted 10 September 2017 - 03:42 AM

Harley has serious eps. Not just Mad Love with her origin. Harliquinade (spelling) had her entertain in a club too but had a real dark ending that bothered me as a kid. (when she was threatening to shoot the Joker and he was daring her, saying she would never go against him etc etc then she actually pulls the trigger! Shocking that they had her shoot him in the face. Of course, it was the wrong gun but they both didn't know that. But even more twisted that Joker welcomed her gleefully into his arms, I guess cuz he knew she was just as crazy. Couldn't quite wrap my young head around their damage relationship dynamic.

Actually, I kinda enjoyed the henchmen guess who's who and, surprisingly, I enjoyed hearing the twins' song. If it wasn't for the atrocious dancing animation (ye gods), I would have thought it a highlight.

Nightwing's jerk motion surprised me more than the him getting excited in bed.

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Posted 11 September 2017 - 12:57 PM

There once was a man named Bruce Timm

And everyone used to love him

But he made some bad flicks

Now everyone's sick

Of that creepy old pervert Bruce Timm



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Posted 11 September 2017 - 03:30 PM

Sorry if this was already posted, but there's a mid-credits and a post-credits scene. Overall, don't spend money on this.  Catch it whenever it arrives free on streaming services.

I've heard this way too many times to ignore it. I have it on my Netflix DVD queue. It says long wait and it was discounted to $16 at Best Buy. So I was tempted. But then I remember everything said about it and though...hug it. Long wait be damned. I'm waiting. And I'm not really looking forward to it so much the more I hear to be honest.
Well, in spite of the fact that the list said "long wait," I just got an email saying it's been sent.

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<sarcasm>oh yay I can hardly wait this is going to be so much fun </sarcasm>
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Posted 11 September 2017 - 05:46 PM

There once was a man named Bruce Timm

And everyone used to love him

But he made some bad flicks

Now everyone's sick

Of that creepy old pervert Bruce Timm

 

The thing is, the perverted side was always there...just restrained. It started peeking out in The New Batman Adventures and he alluded to it in Beyond, but it was his "help" with the Killing Joke that made everyone realize that it wasn't some uncomfortable/awkward bit of history...this man has a ship and dammit is he going to share it with the world.


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Posted 11 September 2017 - 09:16 PM

There once was a man named Bruce Timm
And everyone used to love him
But he made some bad flicks
Now everyone's sick
Of that creepy old pervert Bruce Timm

 
The thing is, the perverted side was always there...just restrained. It started peeking out in The New Batman Adventures and he alluded to it in Beyond, but it was his "help" with the Killing Joke that made everyone realize that it wasn't some uncomfortable/awkward bit of history...this man has a ship and dammit is he going to share it with the world.

Still not sure why this is surprising. Naughty and Nice: The Good Girl Art of Bruce Timm was published like 5 years ago
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Posted 12 September 2017 - 02:28 PM

Wait, really? I did not know that at all.

But yeah, Timms Bruce/Babs ship has been there all along. Its just really depressing to see him use it unrestrained and in places it shouldn't be.

Also, Nightwing and Harley flirting, and the rest. Just, why?

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 08:38 PM

The time honored, slightly NSFW, addage springs to mind:

 

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OH MY GAWD I JUST GOT IT!

BRUCE TIMM YOU SLY [censored]!

Ya got me!

 

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 07:18 PM

What the ever loving hug did I just watch? Like...seriously! What...the ever loving hug...did I just watch?

I mean, I would just write an essay for the next few pages doing my own personal Cinema Sins of this whole thing, but that would kill me. KILL...ME...!

I mean, I knew it was going to be bad...but...damn! I mean...damn!
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 09:55 PM

So am I going to watch this and find the overreactions to be heavily unwarranted?

As people tend to overreact to these types of things very heavily. :)

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:39 PM

I would say so. But I seem to be the odd one out here. I like cartoons and all but I don't usually consider them serious business. By all means this wasn't a good movie but it's not as bad as everyone here seems to be making it out as.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 10:48 PM

It really is bad. And as much as it pains me to say it, the Nightwing/Harley sex thing wasn't even the worst of it, though that's pretty bad too. They bullied and basically blackmailed Harley into joining even though she was only trying to live the straight life after a life of crime, Batman kept treating her like shit even though (again) she was trying to straighten out her life, a long chase scene that predictably goes nowhere and could have been cut, a long driving scene from point A to B that could have been significantly cut down, fart joke sequence (I never thought I'd say the words 'fart joke' in a sentence in relation to a Batman movie, but, hey, here we are), a deus ex machina that goes nowhere...and you never see the villain defeated. They come up with the plan and...CUT TO MOTHER HUGGING BLACK!!!!

Oh...and also...

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It's bad. It's just really bad. So much could've been cut and made absolutely no difference to the "plot." If it were funny stuff, I'd have been okay with it. But I never laughed once and more often than not was just face palming.
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Posted 13 September 2017 - 11:30 PM

On the plus side, you didnt pay for it!
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