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@  ThunderWear : (27 January 2020 - 08:56 PM)

Think of it positively, maybe your face just has optional no-slip surfaces

@  Maximus Ambus : (27 January 2020 - 05:38 PM)

I have dyspraxia so use a electric trimmer, it's never smooth. NEVER!

@  Benbot : (27 January 2020 - 12:52 PM)

don't you hate it when you shave but miss a whisker and it bugs you all day long and you try to yank it out but you can't because it's too short to get a hold of but your hand keeps finding it whenever you touch your face?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (25 January 2020 - 11:17 PM)

Twitter's revamp is so dumb. Nowadays, even when I am logged out of my account, right-clicking an image on Google Chrome won't let me access a URL to easily get the image's full size. That functionality was so useful!

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE


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#1 Johnny Here

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 05:34 PM

Id argue that bar Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman all heroes can be replaceable. The main original Leaguers dont have really definable personality traits to me.

I was reading Justice League the other day and Flash said something about running up and pranking Captain Cold during the stint where he was Luthors body guard...and i totally thought that sounds like dcau Wally West.

Hal Jordan's only defining trait is really hes a jerk who really likes women...and i really felt like they amped it up higher than it needed to be.

And more than that...other than comic fans no one really cared about who's who. If you asked random ppl on the street whos who i doubt the average person could really answer.

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 05:49 PM

This is hardly a thing endemic to DC. In fact, I think the way they handled the Lanterns and Flashes are better as mantles to be passed down and with the originals taking on proteges and at points sharing the name. At least pre new 52 but it looks like they're bringing that back so IDK.

I don't see what the ignorance and/or apathy of random people on the street has to do with anything. In fact it's probably worse for ehat you're trying to argue since if anything, they'll only know the most prominent or recent holder of the title, hence Superman is Clark Kent, Green Lantern was John Stuart except for when he was Ryan Reynolds in bodypaint and the Flash is Barry Allen since that's what the current TV show says

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 05:57 PM

This is hardly a thing endemic to DC. In fact, I think the way they handled the Lanterns and Flashes are better as mantles to be passed down and with the originals taking on proteges and at points sharing the name. At least pre new 52 but it looks like they're bringing that back so IDK.

I don't see what the ignorance and/or apathy of random people on the street has to do with anything. In fact it's probably worse for ehat you're trying to argue since if anything, they'll only know the most prominent or recent holder of the title, hence Superman is Clark Kent, Green Lantern was John Stuart except for when he was Ryan Reynolds in bodypaint and the Flash is Barry Allen since that's what the current TV show says


What im saying is there was never really a reason for Hal Jordan or Barry Allen to come back. I and pretty much a lot of other people grew up with the third gen heroes. And yes they can share the name, but Wally West is pretty mich stuck in the horrible Titans title for now.

Like it seems a silly question to ask now because death doesnt mean anything any more but i really thought they were gone amd their succeasors had inherited the title.

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 06:18 PM

Entitled Fanboys insisting that the "good one" from when they were 12 be restored.  Especially when the entitled fanboys fixated on the comics of their youth ended up in editorial.  Undo Peter Parker's marriage.  Bring back every retired character and get rid of their replacements.  Etc.

 

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 06:26 PM

Entitled Fanboys insisting that the "good one" from when they were 12 be restored.  Especially when the entitled fanboys fixated on the comics of their youth ended up in editorial.  Undo Peter Parker's marriage.  Bring back every retired character and get rid of their replacements.  Etc.
 
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Posted 26 May 2017 - 06:28 PM

This is hardly a thing endemic to DC. In fact, I think the way they handled the Lanterns and Flashes are better as mantles to be passed down and with the originals taking on proteges and at points sharing the name. At least pre new 52 but it looks like they're bringing that back so IDK.

I don't see what the ignorance and/or apathy of random people on the street has to do with anything. In fact it's probably worse for ehat you're trying to argue since if anything, they'll only know the most prominent or recent holder of the title, hence Superman is Clark Kent, Green Lantern was John Stuart except for when he was Ryan Reynolds in bodypaint and the Flash is Barry Allen since that's what the current TV show says

What im saying is there was never really a reason for Hal Jordan or Barry Allen to come back. I and pretty much a lot of other people grew up with the third gen heroes. And yes they can share the name, but Wally West is pretty mich stuck in the horrible Titans title for now.

Like it seems a silly question to ask now because death doesnt mean anything any more but i really thought they were gone amd their succeasors had inherited the title.
There is a reason. The writers want to write about the guy they read as kids which aligns with the crusty old readers that form the majority of readers since kids barely read at all, let alone comic books, nowadays. Is it a good reason? Not particularly, but eh, there are worse things to happen in comics

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:05 PM

As much as I respect Geoff Johns, I'll never forgive him for being responsible for Wally being essentially shelved for YEARS.

 

I guess this falls into MUH FLASH/NOT MUH FLASH territory, but...both Marvel and DC should consider their audience. Most people who are into comics these days grew up reading 90's and early 00's comics.

 

But they're not. They want the new, casual readers and they're not really buying their new, hip comics.

 

I'd probably look at what people actually want instead of forcing what a small section of fans (who probably don't even read comics) want.

 

Personally? I'd love stories. Long form stories, single-issue stories, just good stories and good art. I'd love an escape from everything I'm seeing on the news. Give me fantastic, unrealistic, but well written and well drawn comics, like what drew people into comics in the first place.

 

DC's Rebirth touched on this. I was skeptical about bringing in the Watchmen, but it's working. DC feels exciting these days. Marvel...there's some select titles that I love.

 

However bad the first issues Jane Foster as Thor was, the current stuff has been FUN. The recent Asgard/Shi'ar War story arc with the Shi'ar gods was absolutely fun. Infamous Iron Man, even with Bendis, is a fun look into the mind of Victor Von Doom trying to redeem himself. The Ultimates has a very diverse cast, but that's not the focus. The focus is STORYTELLING and it's been fantastic. I wouldn't have bought Good Guy Galactus (apart from Hickman writing him) but here we are. Al Ewing's been experimenting with continuity and explaining a lot of continuity gaffes in the process, and this is the type of Cosmic Marvel stuff I've personally been missing since DnA's Guardians ended.

 

And as controversial as Steve Rogers: Captain America has been, it's actually a damn good look into how much Steve's been altered. It's like a train wreck. And goddammit, it's been written well.

 

As for DC, the recent Button story arc and Superman regaining his pre-New 52 history have been really, really good reads.

 

Marvel's gonna try the Legacy thing with Generations. I HOPE it leads to more good titles, because lord knows they need more of those these days. I was all for Amadeus Cho as the Hulk, but they didn't need Bruce dead. Same with Tony (well, he's comatose, but STILL), Thor, Cap being Evil, Wolverine encased in Adamantium and suffocating...at lest Peter Parker and Miles Morales coexist. As do Richard Rider and Nova. And Carol and Kamala. Marvel has a lot to learn about Legacy characters, but I hope they're not following DC's example.


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 11:12 PM

I did like how briefly before New 52, Jay, Barry and Wally were all active as the Flash.

Likewise in the late 90's-early 2000's Justice League where Wally was the middleman between the senior members and the newbies. Like how he could talk to Superman about the League's future then the next panel gets into a "last one's a rotten egg" race with Kyle

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 02:26 AM

I guess this falls into MUH FLASH/NOT MUH FLASH territory, but...both Marvel and DC should consider their audience. Most people who are into comics these days grew up reading 90's and early 00's comics.

But they're not. They want the new, casual readers and they're not really buying their new, hip comics.

I'd probably look at what people actually want instead of forcing what a small section of fans (who probably don't even read comics) want.


Here's the problem with that. The "Most people/actual audience/old school fan" you are talking about is mostly a tiny little handful of middle age guys. It's too small a number to support the comic book industry any more and it's a number that's absolutely shrinking every year.

The industry absolutely and absolutely desperately needs those "casual fans who probably don't read comics" to start reading and kids too. If those don't happen the industry could be dead or dwindled to bookstore tpbs in our lifetime or shortly after.

I agree that good stories are a key thing you want but let's face it, Good stories were generally NOT what comics had going for them when they were a growing, suceeding or healthy industry. They were absolutely disposable junk. But they were fun, and bright, eminently CHEAP AND ACCESSIBLE, inspiring, exciting, disposable junk. You can judge by my caps the two I think they have lost that have hurt them the most.

The big two have absolutely not captured the new/casual/non-90s/00s audience they need as well as they need but giving up and running back to the shrinking old reader base isn't gonna put them in good shape either. We're aging/pricing out or dying off too fast and that's not gonna stop. Things like Squirrel Girl and Hell Cat, Moon Girl or the Unstoppable Wasp and I don't know Gotham Academy on DC's side that have strong appeal outside the main old man audience are absolutely a good necessary idea. They absolutely need that audience as much as they need us old guys.

-ZacWilliam, which is a bit off course from what the thread was started to talk about but kinda needed pointing out. There's a lot of things the industry could absolutely be doing different/better that could maybe save it, but playing solely to their small and shrinking base (even though I'm absolutely that base) isn't gonna do it.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 11:41 AM

Entitled Fanboys insisting that the "good one" from when they were 12 be restored.  Especially when the entitled fanboys fixated on the comics of their youth ended up in editorial.  Undo Peter Parker's marriage.  Bring back every retired character and get rid of their replacements.  Etc.

 

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 01:27 PM

 

This is hardly a thing endemic to DC. In fact, I think the way they handled the Lanterns and Flashes are better as mantles to be passed down and with the originals taking on proteges and at points sharing the name. At least pre new 52 but it looks like they're bringing that back so IDK.

I don't see what the ignorance and/or apathy of random people on the street has to do with anything. In fact it's probably worse for ehat you're trying to argue since if anything, they'll only know the most prominent or recent holder of the title, hence Superman is Clark Kent, Green Lantern was John Stuart except for when he was Ryan Reynolds in bodypaint and the Flash is Barry Allen since that's what the current TV show says


What im saying is there was never really a reason for Hal Jordan or Barry Allen to come back.

 

I don't know, I think the simple fact that their return helped streamline some of history and bring forth the Spectrum of Light that led to Darkest Night was a justifiable reason.

 

The return of Hal Jordan is actually what got me back into reading comics. I hold no bias towards him. In fact, I prefer almost all the other lanterns over him, but his return jump started a string of stories that were pretty awesome.

 

Even then, the whole 'coming back to life' thing was covered in Darkest Night / Brightest Day. At least they addressed it and provided an in-universe reason.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 04:01 PM

Hal's return fortunately actually helped bring the others relevant as well outside of Alan Scott. Even after the start of the New 52 we continued with Kyle, Guy, and John and actually swelled the ranks with Simon and Jessica.

But as said Barry's Return did eventually shelve the majority of the Flash family for the majority of comics since Flashpoint. And similarly portions of the Bat family have been out of commission since but it was an odd mix since the majority of Robins were kept in form but the Batgirls were all shelved in favor of Barbra coming back.

Marvel on the other hand has been odd mixes. For a time we had a team of Hulks and now we only have Amadeus running around active. Peter was usually only sharing the Spider mantle with a Spider-Girl or Woman and Venom, but now there's a nest of spiders. Tony has been back and forth usually only sharing his tech with Rhodes, but now we have Pepper, Riri, and oddly Doom wearing the Iron Mantle in the last decade. Marvel just has always had a back and forth relationship with Legacy. Danny Ketch was Ghost Rider for a good portion of the 90's but eventually got booted back for Johnny only for him later to get replaced by Robbie now.

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Posted 27 May 2017 - 07:14 PM

Don;t mind who it is really but car Ghost Rider just isn't the same.


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Posted 28 May 2017 - 11:39 AM

What about Giant Mining Bucketwheel Excavator Ghost Rider?
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Posted 29 May 2017 - 07:35 PM

It seems to me that bringing back the originals is more about bringing the comics in line with TV and the movies, which have a bigger presence/audience at this point.

Marvel and DC want newbies to be able to easily find the same characters they see on the big screen.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 07:38 PM

It seems to me that bringing back the originals is more about bringing the comics in line with TV and the movies, which have a bigger presence/audience at this point.

Marvel and DC want newbies to be able to easily find the same characters they see on the big screen.


Except this happened before the movies were a thing

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 07:44 PM

I sorta wondered before why DC wanted modern Blue Beetle to be a thing. I knew he existed in the comics but then he was in the first episode of Batman Brave and the Bold, appeared in Smallville, had the villains of Young Justice s2 be his, a playable character in Injustice 2... He's really just DC's answer to Spider-Man (kid given great power and responsibility) but Hispanic. Was he created to fulfill a mandate of diversity? I think Marvel came up with Reptyl (also Hispanic) for Superhero Squad around the same time?

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:26 PM

Given the alien weapon armor thing, he's going to be more interesting as a fighting game character than Ted Kord and is more likely to appeal to children.

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Posted 29 May 2017 - 08:37 PM

I sorta wondered before why DC wanted modern Blue Beetle to be a thing. I knew he existed in the comics but then he was in the first episode of Batman Brave and the Bold, appeared in Smallville, had the villains of Young Justice s2 be his, a playable character in Injustice 2... He's really just DC's answer to Spider-Man (kid given great power and responsibility) but Hispanic. Was he created to fulfill a mandate of diversity? I think Marvel came up with Reptyl (also Hispanic) for Superhero Squad around the same time?

Probably because the original Blue Beetle wasnt that popular so they decided to do something with the legacy.

Hes pretty differeent from Spider-Man, the only thing they have in common is being young heroes with a bug motif.

I dont know where the mandate for diversity thing came from, thats a pretty weird comment.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

It seems to me that bringing back the originals is more about bringing the comics in line with TV and the movies, which have a bigger presence/audience at this point.
Marvel and DC want newbies to be able to easily find the same characters they see on the big screen.


Except this happened before the movies were a thing

Well Marvel tried the Ultimate Universe and DC had the New 52 to create new jumping on points for new readers, but it seems like people just want more simplified back-to-basics stories (i.e., an encyclopedic knowledge of the universe isn't needed to really appreciate the stories) with the original characters instead of new versions of them.

So, they had to each reboot again. Marvel killed off the Ultimate Universe, while DC "undid" the New 52 with Rebirth.

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