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@  Bass X0 : (16 July 2020 - 09:43 AM)

Circuit-breaker '84, this is Megatron's rubber duck. We've got ourselves a Rodimus Convoy. Do you copy? Over.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 07:06 AM)

I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you. I've made my point very clear and have nothing more to say on the issue.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 07:00 AM)

I can't do anything to prevent hurricanes either but it'd be absurd to suggest I therefore shouldn't talk about them.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:57 AM)

Basically neither you nor I even like South Park anyways so the best you can do is leave it alone rather than suggest it is corrupting hearts and minds.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

In that case I'm... not sure what the point is?

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:53 AM)

Nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. You can't prevent people from doing it. It's an artistic work with fans. I don't think I'm off-track.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:51 AM)

As far as I can tell you just of course'd the thing you were poopooing...

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

Also, this is starting to get a bit too serious for the shoutbox (though it already was)

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

"It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing." Of course, that's South Park's "artistic" style. It's what South Park's audience wants, and that's okay.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:47 AM)

You can probably finish the sentence "I got 50% of my sense of humor from" with the name of some fictional work.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

And it still wouldn't be S.W.A.T.'ss or Grey's Anatomy's or South Park's fault.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

The idea isn't that people are taking South Park's in-universe parody moral lessons seriously (though as Nevermore points out, you can't safely assume that isn't also happening). It's that they're internalizing the overall attitude that the writers display through the show's writing.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:45 AM)

"People say" those people are right, and you should listen to them. We can't protect people from themselves, but you can advise them well.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:27 AM)

So many medical disasters because someone took what they saw on a hospital show at face value.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:25 AM)

So many people who think police and court procedure works like it does in Hollywood, and act accordingly. Sometimes to their own disadvantage, sometimes just to the frustration of well-meaning authorities.

@  Nevermore : (16 July 2020 - 06:24 AM)

People say "you shouldn't take your morals from a TV show" all the time, but regardless of how these people want things to work doesn't mean other people aren't doing it anyways.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:01 AM)

And I mean, if you're looking for a 1950s conservative position on something, it's certainly that a TV show is rotting children's minds.

@  fourteenwings : (16 July 2020 - 06:00 AM)

Conservatives are not hiding under the bed waiting to ruin... uh... Family Guy of all things? And like, nobody should be taking their morals from South Park. Expecting such things is impractical.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

It was just the cartoon with those foul mouthed kids in the UK until that bubble burst after the movie. Reviewers joked the movies target audience would be unable to see it for the rating.

@  Paladin : (15 July 2020 - 05:14 PM)

see also: "South Park." the show that poisoned a generation by teaching them "it's stupid to feel for other people."

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:04 AM)

'Take that! People who care about things!'

@  Rycochet : (15 July 2020 - 11:02 AM)

With Brian, he stopped being the voice of reason and started to be the right wing notion of a liberal, someone who's lazy, pretentious, doesn't work at anything, is every bit as abusive as the rest of the cast and only wins arguments with strawmen.

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

Of course, I stopped enjoying Family Guy around that time, so my bias is clear. XP

@  Otaku : (15 July 2020 - 10:54 AM)

Is it because they changed or we changed?  Stuff that was charming, or at least, funny at first can get really annoying the longer you know a person... and I find that can go for fictional characters as well.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

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@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:45 AM)

One example is Family Guy where around season 8 Brian is suddenly reviled by everyone and has acted way out of character since.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 July 2020 - 03:44 AM)

My least favorite thing in fiction is when it changes hands so you get a author, writer or showrunner who hates a character or messes with a arc/layout.

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

You'll shoot yer eye out, kid.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 July 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I shot the sheriff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:24 PM)

han wasn't even in the movie until later

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 July 2020 - 04:23 PM)

the stormtroopers shot first

@  Sabrblade : (14 July 2020 - 03:33 PM)

Maclunkey

@  Paladin : (14 July 2020 - 06:18 AM)

the correct answwer to "who shot first" will always be "Harrison Ford if he ever hears that hugging question again."

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH


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#241 MrBlud

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Posted 04 June 2017 - 09:51 PM

I *do* kinda find it weird they'll reach out to "car enthusiasts" but won't stop Sunbowing it up to appeal to people who liked the previous design flourishes they included.


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Posted 04 June 2017 - 10:16 PM

I for one don't doubt the appeal of Sideswipe to the car fans. The part I'm doubtful about is the continued appeal when Sunstreaker costs several times more and at least one of the added details feels like it's actively negated.

 

But like Betty said, we're all going to wait and see.



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Posted 05 June 2017 - 05:08 AM

Right. And while the added faces and accessories might help a Transformers fan cope with the added costs, I'm going to doubt that they mean anything at all to car enthusiasts. 

 

If they want a kick-ass car to robot, I'd assume that's pretty much all they want.



#244 unluckiness

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 05:13 AM

I assumed it was just a happy coincidence for transformation like with Tracks' opening hood and the rest is just PR talk.


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#245 Kevin S

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 06:53 AM

https://hlj.com/product/TKT87715
 
HLJ preoder's up!  For Sideswipe too.


Put my PO in, but while I chose to pay via PayPal my account info wasn't asked for. I assume this is because it's still a preorder?

Never used HLJ before & thought I'd find out if I did something wrong. Also what are shipping prices usually like?

$10-12 range for a MP car figure, or more? Alternatively I could order from Action Robo.
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Posted 05 June 2017 - 07:00 AM

It's a preorder, you shouldn't need to approve anything through PayPal until it's in stock.

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 07:05 AM

Right.  You will either get a payment request when it comes in, or if you set up a payment agreement with them through Paypal they will charge you when it's in stock (this is how I do it).


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Posted 05 June 2017 - 08:54 AM

 

https://hlj.com/product/TKT87715
 
HLJ preoder's up!  For Sideswipe too.


Put my PO in, but while I chose to pay via PayPal my account info wasn't asked for. I assume this is because it's still a preorder?

Never used HLJ before & thought I'd find out if I did something wrong. Also what are shipping prices usually like?

$10-12 range for a MP car figure, or more? Alternatively I could order from Action Robo.

 

 

I'm really not sure what shipping would be for one figure.  I always combine mine to save on shipping costs.  It depends on how fast you want your figure--they offer a number of options, so if you're willing to wait a few weeks for your package to cross the Pacific in a rowboat, you can save money that way.



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Posted 05 June 2017 - 09:20 AM

Just put a currently available MP car like Tracks or Ironhide in the cart and HLJ will show you the available shipping options and the cost of each to your country.

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 11:16 AM

Well, after going back and forth I've canceled my preorder. I've always struggled with perceived value for the car bots, and this is just way too much. Sunsurge isn't perfect by any means, but he fills the gap at far less (and I already own him).


 
 
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#251 BlitzwingHaz

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Posted 05 June 2017 - 05:22 PM

I hummed and hawed too but kept the pre-order. I may still cancel it yet.

Do they ever poll fans on what they actually want? Do the majority want more accessories and complexity for a higher cost?



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Posted 05 June 2017 - 05:39 PM

The more I see of Sunstreaker, the more I want him, and the price doesn't bother me quite as much. The silver spoiler clinches it. I still think I'm just in Masterpiece for Jazz, Mirage and Hound, and then I'm done. Insecticons might sway me, of course.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

http://www.amiami.co...cnt=0$pagecnt=1

 

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 12:26 PM

So Sunstreaker's black is a little lighter than the first MP-12.

I'd imagine MP-12+ would use that same lighter black/dark gray then too.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 01:26 PM

Those look like toys from two different lines.

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 01:41 PM

Yeah, looking at the Sunstreaker there is painful.


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 01:42 PM

http://www.amiami.co...cnt=0$pagecnt=1

 

Additional image of MP-39 with the original MP-12 not previously seen:

 

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Wow.  They don't even look like they're from the same toy line in terms of aesthetic.



#258 Benbot

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Posted 09 June 2017 - 02:21 PM

I can definitely appreciate the aesthetics of both of them, and honestly I don't have a favorite.  They're both good for different reasons.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

I felt that the original Sideswipe and Sunstreaker looked like they were from two different lines too.

 

I think this photo would help if Sunstreaker was using his normal neutral face.  Then they'd seem a bit more cohesive.

 

As it is, I find the level of details isn't too different.  Since Sideswipe doesn't have too much extra detailing, and Sunstreaker isn't devoid of it like Inferno.


I think the differences in aesthetic are cancelled out a bit with the 12+ redeco too.


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Posted 09 June 2017 - 02:29 PM

The upper thigh joints, the biceps, the hands, the knees, all look like the follow the same design aesthetic.  Sunstreaker just exudes personality, which the TakaraTomy team was just starting to have filter in to their non-Animated figures when Sideswipe rolled out.

 

Shows how they've improved a lot with that since he and Optimus were first released.  Comparing Optimus to Megatron and Sideswipe to Sunstreaker.


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