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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons


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#1 Paladin

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 12:18 PM

so Netflix is now doing a PREQUEL to Jim Hensons' "The Dark Crystal."

 


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:31 PM

They're doing it with puppets? Whoa. So the creatures are split already to begin with. Who's the hero? Not the gelfling.

It'll end in tragedy though. Like Rogue One.

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 01:45 PM

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 02:14 PM

This looks awesome!


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 02:52 PM

I don't care for the Dark Crystal, but I'll wholeheartedly endorse this if they don't do it in CGI.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 03:16 PM

I was all ready to go "Please don't ruin the Dark Crystal" but.. Netflix and actual puppetry...?

 

hug, I'm going to have to subscribe to Netflix again... XD

 

Also... I miss Jim Henson.  Like, it didn't hit me until I heard his voice... I miss him so much.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 04:51 PM

The "main" setting of TDC had lasted for 1,000 years. Plenty of time for a prequel - and with more characters (since they had been slowly dying in pairs). If they just make the Gelflings look a little less stiff and ugly, it'll be amazing.

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 07:51 PM

According to earlier (semi-canon?) materials, there were originally 18 urSkeks (who were divided into Skeksis and Urru), only 10 of which survived to appear in the movie. Two pairs died during the film, leaving eight survivors.

From the sound of things, this will involve the Garthim Wars, previously covered (in part) in Legends of the Dark Crystal.

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 09:28 PM

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 10:40 PM

I haven't seen the original movie in years. I did pick the DVD up recently so I guess I should sit down and watch it.

 

I just remember not enjoying it when I was little. I always thought Labyrinth was the better movie.


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 11:06 PM

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"The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance returns to the world of Thra with an all new adventure. When three Gelfling discover the horrifying secret behind the Skeksis’ power, they set out on an epic journey to ignite the fires of rebellion and save their world."


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Posted 19 May 2017 - 12:20 AM

 
I just remember not enjoying it when I was little. I always thought Labyrinth was the better movie.


Labyrinth is worlds better as a fun movie imo. Dark Crystal is kinda long, often a bit slow and occasionally a bit dull, and can be hard to get into story wise.

BUT it has amazing puppetry, and wonderful world building and is just super impressive as a kind of artistic and Fantasy achievement, even if it's the less straight out enjoyable experience of the two.

-ZacWilliam, Labyrinth I love for itself, Dark Crystal I love more for the level of craft and ideas involved.

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Posted 19 May 2017 - 03:20 PM

I could never get through the original as a kid, part because it was boring and part because that goddamn Emperor Skeksis scene. Only ever saw the ending because I had cousins that were crazy about the film, and naturally I had no idea what was happening.

 

 

Now of course I am all for this prequel... if mostly just for the Skeksis and puppetry.



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Posted 19 May 2017 - 04:23 PM

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"The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance returns to the world of Thra with an all new adventure. When three Gelfling discover the horrifying secret behind the Skeksis’ power, they set out on an epic journey to ignite the fires of rebellion and save their world."

 

This is vague, but it does sound like this is from the early period of the Skeksis' reign.  They actually may be a bit more spry and a lot less decrepit.  Keep in mind by the time the movie takes place, all of them are extremely old and not in the best shape.  Also we should see the Emperor in his prime, and not on his death bed.

 

Very good chance we will see some of the other other Skeksis that were dead by the time of the movie too, easy way to add some new characters that can also be killed off during it, and provide at least some form of victory at the end.

 

Also sounds like this is before the Gelfing purge really gets underway, and this may be what leads into it.  Likely we will see Aughra in this too, as iirc, she was the one who told the Skeksis the prophecy and accidentally started the whole thing.


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Posted 17 December 2018 - 01:13 PM

Good news; Netflix is still working on this project and has announced the cast!

 

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 01:43 AM

Hm, pictures look pretty good... slightly creepy, but then, the puppets were always a bit unreal looking.

 

Cautiously optimistic is my thought on this.


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Posted 18 December 2018 - 04:47 AM

I'm a huge fan of the original movie as it's been one of my favorite movies since i was 4 years old when i saw it on video and been a huge Henson fan growing up for 33 years since i saw Muppets with the movies and Fraggles on cable and TV! i even own the prequel graphic novels, novelization, 2-disc CD soundtrack, blu-ray and new ultra HD 4K blu-ray with an amazing 4K restoration plus a couple of shirts and posters.

 

Hell i even remembered having a crush on Kira when i was a kid and a teenager, LOL. 

 

My birth year was such an amazing year for movies eh folks? i mean you had Blade Runner, Star Trek II, ET, The Thing, Poltergeist, Conan the Barbarian, Pink Floyd The Wall, Rocky III, First Blood, The Dark Crystal, The Secret of NIMH, The Last Unicorn, Flight of Dragons, Creepshow, 48 Hrs and more.

 

I cannot wait for this  10 part mini-series prequel as it looks interesting and has a nice voice cast plus practical and new effects blended, i like that as i'm a huge practical effects fan.



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Posted 18 December 2018 - 08:29 AM

Looking good. My girlfriend bought me the 4K Best Buy exclusive yesterday.

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Posted 18 December 2018 - 09:18 AM

I still can't believe that this is actually happening. "The Dark Crystal" was one of THE movies from my childhood. I drew everything from that movie and then started making up my own creatures that could live in the world of Thra. Must've watched it hundreds of times as one of the few VHS tapes my parents would buy. So excited to see more.


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:59 PM

I still can't believe that this is actually happening. "The Dark Crystal" was one of THE movies from my childhood. I drew everything from that movie and then started making up my own creatures that could live in the world of Thra. Must've watched it hundreds of times as one of the few VHS tapes my parents would buy. So excited to see more.

Awesome man and you love Jim Henson too especially Labyrinth, Storyteller, Witches, Dinosaurs and more besides Fraggles, Muppets and Seasme Street?

 

And face it, without TDC we would never have Legend of Zelda which was one of the possible influences to that game franchise as you can tell how much they are alike in aspects. 





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