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@  Dekafox : (19 February 2020 - 06:14 PM)

Count Zero?

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 February 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Oh boy, here we go.

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:34 PM)

Or do Japan's cultural values vary depending on exactly who you're trying to shut down?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:33 PM)

Could it be that, perhaps, these different cultural values might lead to a different approach seeming appropriate?

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 February 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Hm. Back when we were arguing about the Legends comic, I seem to recall being repeatedly told that Japan had different cultural values than the US (and therefore anyone who had a problem with anything at all was wrong to voice that opinion ever).

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:23 AM)

Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, every single anime character is built to suit the audience's tastes so they buy more merch/do other things that allow $$$ to flow in the production committees direction, so the authenticity is certainly not for representation's sake.

@  fourteenwings : (19 February 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Both those anime air at midnight and are aimed at a very specific audience in a whole other media landscape. Major projects have press releases about almost everything, and there are groups just waiting to pat anybody on the back for doing what they want (GLAAD, HRC, etc)

@  B-Fox : (19 February 2020 - 03:16 AM)

It's funny that a friggin' anime about zombie idols and an anime about a school of anthropomorphic animals can have really positive trans characters WITHOUT a press release about their inclusion in the series prior to the episodes airing or having the creators announcing it on social media and patting themselves on the back for doing a thing.

@  TriBlurr : (18 February 2020 - 10:26 PM)

Vegan meat needs bacon

@  Paladin : (18 February 2020 - 08:43 PM)

vegan meat must taste delicious. they're grass-fed and regularly exercised....

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 06:57 PM)

Vegans are better than kids if you don't talk to them. They'll keep the lawn trimmed anyway.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Do you want vegans? Because that's how you get vegans.

@  CORVUS : (18 February 2020 - 04:33 PM)

Hook up your sprinkler system to a canister of healthy organic carrot-juice. The kids won't be able to get off your lawn fast enough.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 February 2020 - 03:59 PM)

Just use the hose.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 03:52 PM)

Ask bing. It'll be a FAR more effective answer.

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Google, how do I get those durned kids off my lawn?

@  TrnsfrmGod : (18 February 2020 - 03:26 PM)

Please ignore.  Old man here apparently doesn't know the difference between the "Search" field and the "Shoutbox" field.

 

Also doesn't know how to delete from the shoutbox

@  wonko the sane? : (18 February 2020 - 07:33 AM)

Huhn. Penny arcade was right, the division 2 is literally 3 dollars...

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 11:05 PM)

Oh, Wicked Cool Toys got the Halo toy license. This is a big year for Jazwares

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 February 2020 - 07:02 PM)

iTunes/Apple TV has the complete Cowboy Bebop series for just $5!

@  fourteenwings : (17 February 2020 - 12:41 AM)

The Samsung Galaxy B-TOOM!

@  Paladin : (16 February 2020 - 07:20 PM)

business is booming.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 February 2020 - 06:49 PM)

SAmsung has you covered. Exploding phones.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Modern problems require modern solutions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 February 2020 - 05:21 PM)

Japan seems to have a tradition of murder things where cellphones facilitate the killing instead. Like King's Game and Doubt.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 05:17 PM)

Or there's just conveniently no reception, or all of their phones are dead at the same time. Or they're just stupid and forget about them.

@  Patch : (16 February 2020 - 04:41 PM)

Now the slasher villain has to go and knock over the nearest cell tower before butchering horny teenagers.

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 February 2020 - 03:54 PM)

Think of all the horror and mystery movies that involve the bad guys cutting the phone line. Now think about how many people don't even have a land line to cut anymore.

@  Telly : (16 February 2020 - 03:47 PM)

its like that scene in commando. the bad guy has to get to a phone to call the big bad to tell him arnold isnt on the plane. that wouldnt happen today

@  Rycochet : (16 February 2020 - 03:18 PM)

Watching early episodes of the x-files will make you feel super old once you start to notice the techology they use, and the technology they lack.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 February 2020 - 01:00 PM)

This guy.

@  Roddie Luver : (15 February 2020 - 10:55 PM)

Hey

@  Kalidor : (14 February 2020 - 03:01 PM)

The ones that get me are the "Uploaded 12 years ago" ones

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 02:49 PM)

Makes you feel old, don't it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 February 2020 - 02:38 PM)

While browsing Youtube vids I read these comments: 'The X Files is such an underrated show' and another 'Brent Spiner is a underrated actor' I want to punch something.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:16 PM)

Besides: cupid freaks me out. "Find someone to love, or I'll SHOOT YOU".

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 February 2020 - 12:11 PM)

It's just the day before Cheap Chocolate Day.

@  wonko the sane? : (14 February 2020 - 12:08 PM)

Meh, just more game time.

@  Paladin : (14 February 2020 - 10:55 AM)

Valentine's day. Bummer.

@  Otaku : (14 February 2020 - 10:41 AM)

So is that an occasion for congratulations or condolences, Telly?  I see it as a good thing, but that is a matter of personal preference; easier for me to keep straight who is who when the names don't change. XP

@  Telly : (14 February 2020 - 12:48 AM)

damn. ive been going by "telly" on here for nearly 14 years...

@  TM2-Megatron : (11 February 2020 - 08:06 PM)

I've seen it. It didn't really deliver on the title

@  Paladin : (11 February 2020 - 05:28 PM)

we don't need to see that. we're living it.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 February 2020 - 03:42 PM)

Anyone seen an old British movie called 'The Earth dies screaming' it's like a Doctor Who serial minus the Doctor.

@  TriBlurr : (09 February 2020 - 11:58 AM)

Needs more zone defense. Call Scrapper

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2020 - 11:29 AM)

MORE POINTS FOR BLITZWING!

@  Donocropolis : (09 February 2020 - 09:33 AM)

MP-7 Thundercracker recovers....he's at the 40....the 20....AND HE SCORES!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (08 February 2020 - 10:37 PM)

Reserved for Masterpiece Kup.

@  Sabrblade : (08 February 2020 - 09:49 PM)

MP-10 Convoy redecoed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2020 - 06:56 AM)

MP-9 Rodimus self-destructed.


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#1 Internet Jesus

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:48 AM

http://www.newsarama...sday-clock.html

 

This is what Rebirth was leading up to.

 

I was skeptical at first when Rebirth started, but I can't help but be intrigued.

 

Go on, DC. Show Marvel what an event could be.


But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 05:26 PM

I'd rather slog through the worst Marvel crossover than touch another DC event, especially if it's part of their bastardised Watchmen jive, but this is certainly a significant project and it will be interesting to see how it all goes. 


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Posted 16 May 2017 - 09:35 PM

I doubt I'll read it...but the idea of Dr. Manhattan getting trounced by the Trinity is an appealing one.

 

Seriously, he'd need the rest of the Watchmen just to even the odds...and that'd only last so long.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:05 AM

hug Dr. Manhatten up.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:11 AM

I wonder if they'll give him pants

Edited by unluckiness, 17 May 2017 - 04:11 AM.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:14 AM

Is he replacing Braniac?

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:21 AM

Please stop picking at The Watchmen, DC. Do something new.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 04:49 AM

I wonder if they'll give him pants

That's Manhattan's main weapon. Just smacking Superman around with his blue dong.


But in the current, digitized world, trivial information is accumulating every second, preserved in all its triteness. Never fading, always accessible. Rumors about petty issues, misinterpretations, slander... All this junk data preserved in an unfiltered state, growing at an alarming rate. It will only slow down social progress, reduce the rate of evolution. You seem to think that our plan is one of censorship. What we propose to do is not to control content, but to create context.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 05:27 AM

I doubt I'll read it...but the idea of Dr. Manhattan getting trounced by the Trinity is an appealing one.
 
Seriously, he'd need the rest of the Watchmen just to even the odds...and that'd only last so long.


?

Do you remember the rest of the Watchmen?

They aren't "evening up" anything.


-ZacWilliam, Dr Manhattan is god-tier sure, but the others are all normal humans and pretty screw/screwed up.
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 09:38 AM

Saturday Morning Watchmen need to make an appearance
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Posted 17 May 2017 - 10:06 AM

 

I wonder if they'll give him pants

That's Manhattan's main weapon. Just smacking Superman around with his blue dong.

 

 

When I was reading some article about whether Watchmen characters should appear in Injustice 2, that was the first thing I thought of :p

 

Part of me is annoyed to see Watchmen being dragged into the main DC universe, but another part really wants to see if this works.  I liked the Rebirth special for the most part, and I think it's possible for Johns to pull this off, if he's on his A-game.



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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:10 AM

 

I doubt I'll read it...but the idea of Dr. Manhattan getting trounced by the Trinity is an appealing one.
 
Seriously, he'd need the rest of the Watchmen just to even the odds...and that'd only last so long.


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Do you remember the rest of the Watchmen?

They aren't "evening up" anything.


-ZacWilliam, Dr Manhattan is god-tier sure, but the others are all normal humans and pretty screw/screwed up.

 

 

My logic, essentially, is that the other Watchmen would be distracting Batman and/or Wonder Woman while Superman focuses on Dr. Manhattan...and that it would be a short distraction.

 

Seriously, I don't care how powerful you are. You go up against Batman in a face-to-face matchup, and you're screwed. Because he's Batman.


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 11:54 AM

Batman would take out Rorschach, Nite Owl, and Silk Spectre within a minute, they're nothing special. Ozymandias would present the greatest challenge, I could see him being a Deathstroke-tier threat, but Bruce would come out on top in the end.

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 03:33 PM

Seriously, I don't care how powerful you are. You go up against Batman in a face-to-face matchup, and you're screwed. Because he's Batman.

 

I still hold that Black Panther would beat Batman, because he's literally Batman but better on every measurable metric.

But then again I don't feel like Black Panther could beat every other character, so...?


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Posted 17 May 2017 - 07:32 PM

 

I doubt I'll read it...but the idea of Dr. Manhattan getting trounced by the Trinity is an appealing one.
 
Seriously, he'd need the rest of the Watchmen just to even the odds...and that'd only last so long.

?

Do you remember the rest of the Watchmen?

They aren't "evening up" anything.


-ZacWilliam, Dr Manhattan is god-tier sure, but the others are all normal humans and pretty screw/screwed up.
 
 
My logic, essentially, is that the other Watchmen would be distracting Batman and/or Wonder Woman while Superman focuses on Dr. Manhattan...and that it would be a short distraction.

Because Manhattan would atomize Superman in seconds?

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Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:43 PM

 

I wonder if they'll give him pants

That's Manhattan's main weapon. Just smacking Superman around with his blue dong.

 

 

 

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 03:36 AM

Please stop picking at The Watchmen, DC. Do something new.

I agree. This is a terrible idea and they should have left Watchmen alone as the critically acclaimed story that it is.

Before Watchmen was pushing it. But now? The Watchmen were supposed to be deconstructions of superheroes and the effect they would have on the world, when you have them actually unironically with Superman and Batman you might as well forget all of that. They're just another bunch of capes now in an overcrowded universe.

 

It's especially galling as the Watchmen characters were stand-ins for Charlton characters that DC have already been using in the main series. What's Rorschach gonna do that Question can't?


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Posted 18 May 2017 - 05:11 AM

Eh. Honestly Watchmen is what it is. D.C. Playing with the characters this many years later isn't gonna alter that text any more than the abysmal League or Extrordinary Gentlemen movie damaged the book Tom Sawyer or the novel Dracula.

That said, I think DCs central thesis seems to be to use the Watchmen as representative of misguided gritty-realistic cynicism in contrast to the bright hope they've now (after years of running away from it as hard as they can) decided is the core tenant of the D.C. U. Which seems a bit questionable a takeaway from the actual Watchmen text which despite moments of cynicism also manages a few big moments of hope as well.


-ZacWilliam, I guess if you are using it as symbolic of the era of comics that sprung from it maybe, but that's really reductive and kind of misguidedly judgemental to hang around the neck of the best of that material.

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Posted 18 May 2017 - 06:02 AM

DC Rebirth  vs TDKR Batman wouldn't really catch as much attention I guess. 


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