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@  Plokatron : (24 February 2018 - 09:02 AM)

@unluckiness Heavy Weapons has bear hands! Too bad Demoman doesn't he sure wants some.

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2018 - 08:50 AM)

Who needs weapons when you can tear things apart with your BEAR HANDS

@  Echowarrior : (24 February 2018 - 08:41 AM)

I still love that toy. I just wish he had a handheld weapon of some sort.

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2018 - 08:20 AM)

Wow. Somebody actually remembered Polar Claw exists. I'm amazed.

@  Pennpenn : (24 February 2018 - 06:17 AM)

Well, if you like pork I guess.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2018 - 05:12 AM)

Delicious when slowly roasted over an open fire with the right herbs and spices?

@  unluckiness : (24 February 2018 - 05:03 AM)

What is a man?

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 February 2018 - 04:45 AM)

Meh, humans, what have they done for me lately?

@  Bass X0 : (24 February 2018 - 03:10 AM)

I'm sure God regrets wiping us out with a flood then promising never to do it again too soon. He had no idea just how low and depraved his creation would become later.

@  D Immortalis : (24 February 2018 - 01:58 AM)

yes. yes it should.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 11:39 PM)

I almost started a topic in the Politics & Religion thread entitled "Should humanity be wiped out?"

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 11:11 PM)

@Noideaforaname Slag oh well I have a better image host anyway. Thank you DA.

@  Noideaforaname : (23 February 2018 - 11:00 PM)

Wow, so Photobucket got rid of the "download albums" instead of trying to fix it. They sure know how to find new lows.

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 10:54 PM)

@Otaku I mean not going to start a flame war/argument on politics my friend. :D @Tm_Silverclaw I made a mistake about posting some personal junk the other day in Shout which would of been better suited to a purchase thread. I'm just trying not to make anyone mad is all by following what they asked me not to do. :) I'm sure you understand.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (23 February 2018 - 08:57 PM)

I don't get the complaint about long shouts...

@  Otaku : (23 February 2018 - 08:47 PM)

(Unless that was the point in which case, my bad! Went right over my head. XP)

@  Otaku : (23 February 2018 - 08:46 PM)

Um, @Plokatron, saying you're not going to get into politics in the Squawkbox right after getting into politics in the Squawkbox is so like politics, I think it counts as politInception. ;)

@  Plokatron : (23 February 2018 - 08:22 PM)

@2018 When I said I'd do it ASAP I meant first thing I got to my computer. I was on my Wii U at the time (still need to figure out why my switch won't connect via ethernet but Wii U is good for youtube before bed) I have made the change to the article if anyone finds it incorrect (and I doubt they will I know my Locomotives :D ) they can deal with it themselves. @Bass X0 What no "Just do it!"? :D and you are indeed right. Dump can kiss my skid plate. Obama was better than we like to think he was but not getting into politics here. That's what Threads are for if I even care. Now I must shut up this shout is too long again but it is relevent and not just my life this time.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 February 2018 - 06:12 PM)

James Cameron doesn't have the resources to go deep enough to find THAT bar...

@  Foffy : (23 February 2018 - 05:38 PM)

it is a bar so low that it's deep underground

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:43 PM)

Not a high bar.

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:42 PM)

still a better quote than anything Trump has ever said.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 February 2018 - 03:35 PM)

Thanks, Obama!

@  Bass X0 : (23 February 2018 - 03:26 PM)

Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

@  2018 : (23 February 2018 - 08:24 AM)

If anyone has an issue they'll revert your changes and tell you why on the wiki. If you're really bothered there's a thread on this board to ask in.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 09:35 PM)

@2018 I'll do so ASAP then if no one minds. :)

@  2018 : (22 February 2018 - 08:38 PM)

Go change it then!

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:22 PM)

Also I just found a Error not listed on the Wiki for "Plus One" episode of Prime. The locomotive in said episode starts with slow puffing sounds like a steam locomotive but it is clearly a Diesel-Electric.

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 07:14 PM)

I said it wasn't recomended didn't I?

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:54 PM)

There's still the background radiation. If all you had was a sealed helmet and an air tank, how long would you want to hang out being dosed by that?

@  Plokatron : (22 February 2018 - 06:52 PM)

Far more likely for us to boil. Since no air pressure means rapid case of The Bends. If we were aclumated slow enough we could possibly keep going with a Oxygen tank and sealed helmet. But it's not recomended.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:49 AM)

Or a human would freeze to death if dumped out into the vacuum of outer space.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:46 AM)

Or the left hemisphere of the brain is exclusively responsible for logic while the right is responsible for creativity.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 February 2018 - 10:45 AM)

@Pennpenn Haha, like human blood is blue without oxygen?

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 February 2018 - 10:30 AM)

That's a pretty crappy gift.

@  Robowang : (22 February 2018 - 09:45 AM)

The magic butthole fairy brought me a turd

@  Pennpenn : (22 February 2018 - 07:28 AM)

Ah, the only "science fact" I dislike more than "humans only use 10% of the brain".

@  Foffy : (22 February 2018 - 01:39 AM)

According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way that a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway, because bees don't care what humans think is impossible

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 10:22 PM)

Nothing wrong a good B movie now and then. What's bothering me is that the search on seems to work based on titles.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Not quite as bad as FilmRise's lineup, though

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 February 2018 - 09:50 PM)

Crackle is full of a lot of low budget B movies, too

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 09:47 PM)

urg. Sounds as bad as broadcast TV.

@  Shrug : (21 February 2018 - 08:24 PM)

Completely free. Has commercials inserted in awkward moments. IIRC they tend to slot some in right before the credits. So, show ends. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers. Credits. Buffers. Intro to next show. Buffers. Commercials. Buffers.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 07:50 PM)

crackle is actually free too? I was oddly leary of that one for some reason, but couldn't find any proof it was pay.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:38 PM)

They ARE an official content licensor, not "one of those other free sites"

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 07:37 PM)

One of several free VOD sites/apps that are ad supported. I think Tubi is Paramount. Similar to Crackle, which is owned by Sony

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 February 2018 - 06:51 PM)

what is Tubi tv?

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 06:01 PM)

And there's an android app! Sweet!

@  wonko the sane? : (21 February 2018 - 05:57 PM)

oohhh, thanks for the heads up. Seems like lots of decent stuff on there too. Bookmarked.

@  Steevy Maximus : (21 February 2018 - 05:07 PM)

So, I guess Tubi TV got some deal with Hasbro. They got the entire Transformers saga through Animated...minus Beast Wars for some reason.


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#1 Kalidor

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 12:01 AM

I posted an announcement this evening and I'm opening this thread for you all to comment in or ask questions in.

 

You can check it out here -

 

https://www.allspark...ur-art-passion/

 

 

Update: Based on some of the discussions below I've included a poll at the top. Please vote your desires accordingly and if you have any other ides from that option post them further down the topic. 


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#2 MEDdMI

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:08 AM

I post stuff in Beast Mayhem, but it's nothing TF related, or even robots/vehicles. So I guess I'm not sure if anyone outside of Beast Mayhem would even be interested in seeing that stuff. We also started doing weekly art challenges over there, so maybe that's something we can do in the Art forums, too.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:42 AM

Sounds like fun, I'm in.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:17 AM

I've got a lot of old stuff I ought to be posting...

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:31 PM

I discussed this with a few people in the pony art thread a while back. A lot of us would use the art forums if we felt welcome here. It really feels like unless you're good and draw robots, your art isn't welcome. There is a level of intimidation that exists. It really seems like people would rather post in the forums they feel their art will be most accepted.
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#6 Kalidor

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:47 PM

No way! Pony and Mayhem alike are welcome no matter what the content is. 

 

I WANT everyone to converge here with whatever art they want. As long as it's not overly sexualized stuff that borders MA content, it's fair game.

 

Even for me, I've been veering towards a lot of non-tf stuff in the news and forums like D&D and such. 



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:00 PM

I'd be up for this, I miss the art challenges.  


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 05:22 PM

No way! Pony and Mayhem alike are welcome no matter what the content is.

From the time I've been here, there's always been a bit of a TFD/Mayhem/Allsparkle rivalry of sorts. Sometimes fairly friendly and sometimes...not. It leads into the fact that the question of "why is Iacon so deserted" is a bit multilayered. As noted above, some don't feel their content is valued. The interesting thing there is that this is multilayered too. While there's the content concerns, from asking around, there's also size concerns. People who do smaller touchups tend to be less likely to start whole threads and usually just post in TFD's picture thread (or various respective threads elsewhere). Even I'm affected by this considering I've only done one full disassembly and repaint (so far...) and sometimes feel intimidated to post minor things.

There's also visibility concerns that I think have caused a vicious circle--"no one goes to Iacon so I'm not going to post there, thus no one goes there". Contests and front page support should help this some but it's possible that some people are set in their ways to only post in one location. The sitewide announcements are of limited help since they don't stand out that much on this forum (and thus for as much as I try to avoid the shoutbox but am stuck with it, posting there was brilliant on your part). In fact, while we're on the note of being unsure how much is poor visibility and how much is apathy, I remember you had a solidly commissioned drawing of one of your superheroes that got almost no likes or comments when posted down here.

There's also minor nitpicks here and there. While the archive purge earlier this year was needed for most of the forum, some of the slower moving parts like Iacon, Fun and Games, and Allsparkle were a bit more negatively affected since threads were surprisingly farther back. This isn't blame or anything since I was caught off guard that a few threads weren't as current/new as I thought. While permission was given for fanfics to be placed in Allspark Pictures, it never got truly officialized and in turn, I don't think any got posted.

I'll note that I have no intention of being negative and I may have stuff to post over the next few days. Merely noting some of the problems and concerns I've had or overheard.

EDIT: Just remembered that we might need some keyword flexibility for newly created threads in this section.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 06:28 PM

While there's the content concerns, from asking around, there's also size concerns. People who do smaller touchups tend to be less likely to start whole threads and usually just post in TFD's picture thread (or various respective threads elsewhere). Even I'm affected by this considering I've only done one full disassembly and repaint (so far...) and sometimes feel intimidated to post minor things.

So much this. It is such a lower anxiety bar to post a reply in an existing thread than to start a new one that's already about the things you're doing where other people who do those things are apt to see it and comment on it. I would post things to the threads where I presently post them regardless of whether they were in the subforums they're presently in or not. 

 

Zam's right that subcommunities have something to do with it, too - that lowers the bar a bit as well, at least, because users are more apt to feel they're sharing with friends rather than asking for attention in a public forum, even if those are actually the same thing. I'd say it increases the kind of visibility the post will get that's most relevant to the person posting, but ... as much as I think that might be a perception that could make a given subforum seem like a better place to post a piece, I do think it's a false perception. I know that for most of the things I post, I know the three or so people who are going to comment on it and they'll more or less do so wherever. 

 

Edit: I'm going to get the pony miniatures thread locked talking like this. That makes me sad. I started it, I'm attached. 


Edited by Copper Bezel, 03 May 2017 - 06:30 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:33 PM

All good points. I think the lack of feedback has been an issue for a long, long time. There are so many cases of artworks getting posted and people could pop by, see it and move on without really feeling like they had anything to say. 

 

This leads to the person seeing 300 views on their art and maybe 2 replies and thinking it's a kind of rejection or disinterest. Sadly, before the 'like' button was introduced, population in the art forum had already fallen off. I think now it might work better to see 50 likes or whatever than nothing at all. But that's just me.

 

Other times, some posts contained art that wasn't necessarily "Good" but users might offer feedback and suggestions on how to improve their craft and rather than take it in stride, would get defensive and stop posting. 

 

And then the rare jewel would come in that was mindblowing and outshines everything else as professional caliber work and get 100 "OMG [X-COMPANY] HIRE THIS PERSON!"

 

Then there was the time that we split the forums up from a 'wip forum' to a 'completed forum' and that was a dismal mistake. 

 

Then there was this time that our art manager designed the forums in the current state to revive it and immediately took to illness and had to back off and it's kind of been lingering ever since. 

 

I do think the current layout of "3D and 2D art" and "Physical Art" is a good division IF there were more things posted. What I'm really thinking at this point is to compile all 3 forums back into a single art forum in which "3D/2D, Physical Art and "Questions" become tagged and it can simply be sorted that way. 

 

It also leaves a space to re-open the Fanfic forums (much to Razorsaw's delight I"m sure) to get that ball of fiction rolling once again. 

 

Thoughts?



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:53 PM

I do think the current layout of "3D and 2D art" and "Physical Art" is a good division IF there were more things posted. What I'm really thinking at this point is to compile all 3 forums back into a single art forum in which "3D/2D, Physical Art and "Questions" become tagged and it can simply be sorted that way.

I was just about to suggest the same. As long as the traffic is low, there is no sense in dividing it any further.

In regards to not wanting to open a new thread for every small project or art work, how about handling it in a manner similar to the "ask"-threads over in Mayhem? I.e. a user opens a thread where they collect all "minor" posts, reserving new threads for projects that are supposed to stand out more.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 08:02 PM

I would love to see life breathed back into the art forum.

I can admit that the dwindling activity over there is why I stopped posting. The demise of the Secret Santa Art exchange was probably when I stopped all together. I used to look forward to that every year.

But yeah. I'm down for helping in any way I can to revitalize the art forum. Might get me drawing more of my Beast Wars OCs.

EDIT: I agree on merging the 3 back into one. At least currently, there's no need with the amount of traffic for there to be three forums.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 08:34 PM

Sounds good. Since you guys are the foundation I'll start with you and get a poll up - feel free to drag others into it if you're so inclined :D



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 09:28 PM

In regards to not wanting to open a new thread for every small project or art work, how about handling it in a manner similar to the "ask"-threads over in Mayhem? I.e. a user opens a thread where they collect all "minor" posts, reserving new threads for projects that are supposed to stand out more.

There's some of that already and it's a good thing, but I was thinking organizing in the other direction - threads for a category in which multiple users participate. So, like, you could have a TF-related minor tweaks and finishing thread, a wargaming miniatures thread, a Pony OC art thread, etc. Totally at the user's discretion whether to post in there or start a new project / personal thread, of course. 

 

Edit: Exactly like Allsparkle, I mean, where we have an Allsparkle 2D art thread, a miniatures and modding thread, and also personal art threads by the heavy hitters.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 03 May 2017 - 09:30 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?

 

Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?


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Posted 03 May 2017 - 09:32 PM

That's a great idea, and it would funnel to the audience to posts relevant to their interests.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 09:56 PM

That sounds like a good idea. 



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:16 PM

Is there any way to have preview thumbnails like what TFW does in their Radicon section? I'm thinking there might not be so much incentive to go and click a thread titled something like "My FanArt Thread" by a user who's avatar is lifted from some old cartoon and who's signature just simply states that they draw stuff, no examples or nothing...

 

 

I'm gonna have to make the effort to actually comment on stuff, instead of maybe clicking a thread, quickly scroll thru and think "well alright" without leaving so much as a Like (it's not like there's even a limit on those, the hell am I being stingy for?). Although, ech, I never know what to say.



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:21 PM

I like Copper's idea too. It'd be nice to have threads discussing fave artists/works, for instance. Instead of just fan fiction, we could have a poetry/short fiction threads or such.

It was pretty much the lack of feedback that kept me from posting much, and I don't know much about the TF stuff so I may not be a good judge, but I'll try to get more involved. I had no idea the art forums had gotten so deserted.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:38 PM

Is there any way to have preview thumbnails like what TFW does in their Radicon section? I'm thinking there might not be so much incentive to go and click a thread titled something like "My FanArt Thread" by a user who's avatar is lifted from some old cartoon and who's signature just simply states that they draw stuff, no examples or nothing...

 

 

I'm gonna have to make the effort to actually comment on stuff, instead of maybe clicking a thread, quickly scroll thru and think "well alright" without leaving so much as a Like (it's not like there's even a limit on those, the hell am I being stingy for?). Although, ech, I never know what to say.

 

I don't make it off planet Allspark much.. can you show me an example of what you're referring to about thumbnails? 



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Posted 03 May 2017 - 10:56 PM

Got other stuff to reply to but for now...
 

Is there any way to have preview thumbnails like what TFW does in their Radicon section? I'm thinking there might not be so much incentive to go and click a thread titled something like "My FanArt Thread" by a user who's avatar is lifted from some old cartoon and who's signature just simply states that they draw stuff, no examples or nothing...
 
 
I'm gonna have to make the effort to actually comment on stuff, instead of maybe clicking a thread, quickly scroll thru and think "well alright" without leaving so much as a Like (it's not like there's even a limit on those, the hell am I being stingy for?). Although, ech, I never know what to say.

 
I don't make it off planet Allspark much.. can you show me an example of what you're referring to about thumbnails?

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